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Jeez, this is terrible.
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It's the stupidest.
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I can't--
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It's an hour's difference.
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The time zone is different here.
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Fuck. It's unbelievable.
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How the fuck can that happen?
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Okay. Here.
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Okay, there. That's done.
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Now what?
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Okay. Got it. Okay.
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Pull it up.
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Okay, now let's get your...
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A few years ago, we wanted to...
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try to help out with some activist's
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anti-corporate activities.
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And we heard about this website
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called rtmark.com.
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And we went there, and they--
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they handed us a domain name--
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gwbush.com--
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and asked us if we might like
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to make a website
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that was critical of George Bush.
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Because George Bush's real
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domain name was georgewbush.com.
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And this was 1999,
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so it was just during the campaign
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when he was beginning
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to run for president.
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And we didn't really know
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quite what to do,
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so we went to Bush's website
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and looked at it.
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And it turned out to be full
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of strange hypocrisies, like,
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for example, he called himself
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"The environmental governor of Texas,"
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but we looked a little closer
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at his record and found out
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that he had actually created
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the most polluted state in the country
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because he dismantled
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the Clean Air Laws while he was there.
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And, actually, that's, I guess,
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what he's doing now nationally.
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So we thought,
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"Well, this kind of hypocrisy
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we can easily poke fun at
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by making a satire website."
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And we made this satire website
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that looked exactly like Bush's
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except for a few key differences.
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Like there was a photo on the banner--
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instead of him and his wife
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in front of the capitol building in Texas,
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we showed him pointing the finger
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at black people.
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And this seemed to get him
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a little bit angry.
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So the Bush campaign
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tried to shut us down
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by sending us
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a cease and desist letter
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and by complaining
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to the Federal Election Commission.
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But we were able
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to just take those threats
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and send them to the media.
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And immediately the <i>New York Times</i>
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wrote an article,
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and there were a whole bunch
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of other articles.
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In fact, one reporter
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read these articles and,
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at a press conference,
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asked Bush,
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"So, what about this website--
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gwbush.com--what do you think of that?"
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So it was all over the place.
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A lot of people read about it,
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including a guy who had another
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domain name called gatt.org.
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And, of course, GATT is the
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Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade,
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and it's the predecessor agreement
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to the World Trade Organization.
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And he said,
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"If you could do this for Bush,
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then maybe you can
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also do this for the WTO."
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The WTO is supposed to be
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sort of a United Nations of commerce,
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a conglomeration
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of all these countries in the world...
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that get together every now and then
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to discuss trade policies
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in how exactly goods will be bought
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and sold throughout the world.
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I'm sure, originally,
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the stated purpose of the WTO
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was to help these countries
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who are developing
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so that, you know, the world community
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can help raise them out of poverty.
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In fact, what it's done is
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it's allowed large corporations
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to go in and exploit these people
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even further
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so that Americans
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become even wealthier
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and the people in these countries
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continue to struggle to get by.
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And I think that's--
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at this point it's upset quite a few people.
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So I gotta try
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and remember where Sal lives.
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It's a little bit complicated. There's, like,
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this snaking road up over the hills.
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And who is Sal?
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Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego,
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and he moved to L.A.
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to work in the movie industry,
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and that's why now he does,
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actually, costuming professionally.
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He builds, like, weird suits
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out of pretty much
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any material you can imagine.
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And so, when we needed a costume,
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I knew who to call.
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Yeah, this is it. Yeah.
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I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually,
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as long as we're at it here.
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- Yeah--I don't like it.
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- Okay.
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It looks too much like sex stuff
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instead of--it's not very modern-looking.
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Remember, this is the future.
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This isn't about, like, straps and stuff.
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That's like dungeons and torture
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in the past.
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The costume
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is a manager's leisure suit.
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And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh,
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the representative
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from the World Trade Organization,
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is going to go and wear
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this breakaway business suit
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that's gonna be pulled off of him
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during the middle
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of the keynote address to the conference.
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And then a big inflatable phallus
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is going to emerge from this golden suit,
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and on the end of it is a TV screen
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that he uses
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to manage sweatshops remotely.
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The reason we got invited
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to these things
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is we have a website
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called gatt.org.
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The gatt.org website looks a lot
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like the WTO website,
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but it is critical of the WTO.
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Most people, though,
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who find gatt.org
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by searching
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for the World Trade Organization...
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will go without reading it
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and will send us e-mail directly.
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So a lot of people ask us
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weird questions about tariffs and trade,
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and we try to answer
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as accurately as we can.
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And occasionally invitations come in
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from official
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or quasi-official organizations
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asking for opinions
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or asking us to attend a conference.
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And so, when they ask, they really think
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they're talking to the WTO,
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and we respond by giving them
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what we think they want--
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which is the opinions of the WTO--
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as accurately
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as we can represent them.
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You know what I'm thinking,
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actually, looking at this...
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is that maybe this is a zipper.
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Yeah! Yeah, yeah.
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Then he just unzips it
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and pulls the thing at the same time.
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- That could be really good.
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- Because...
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to have it burst out of the Velcro,
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it might not be strong enough to burst out,
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and then he'd have to pull it.
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Part of the thing
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that gives us the courage
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to go to Tampere...
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with this really absurd suit
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is that we already went
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to Salzburg, Austria, to represent
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the World Trade Organization
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at a conference on tariffs and trade.
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There, our representative--the same guy
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who is Hank Hardy Unruh here--
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And he gave a lecture that focused
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on basically doing away with
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all customs in the name of free trade,
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like getting rid of the <i>siesta</i>
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in Spain and Italy
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so that business hours
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could be the same.
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In Italy, on the other hand,
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you have a totally different situation,
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in which sleep is...done during
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the day as much as at night almost.
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And allowing people to sell their votes
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over the Internet to the highest bidder
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so that the barriers to free trade
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and things like votes were out of the way.
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One possible solution is being tested
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in the field of American politics
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to streamline the grotesquely
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inefficient system of elections.
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What we have here is that we have
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Polytechnic Institute, and I teach there.
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This is--it's this...
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...SimCopter hack.
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Here it is.
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I wanted to watch this tape
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I've been cleaning out the archives,
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I met Andy through a friend, actually.
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A mutual friend.
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suggested that me and Andy
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One of the jobs that I had was
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that makes SimCity.
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One of the games they were making
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I was in charge of the little people
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They'd all be boys, and they'd
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this very popular video game
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about video games and the sort
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of macho nature of them.
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of some gay, kissing muscle men
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every Friday the 13th.
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He's becoming a celebrity of sorts
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in the computer world--
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especially the gay computer world.
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where we switched the voice boxes
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of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes.
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<i>Troops! Attack that Cobra jet</i>
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"Dead men tell no lies."
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on store shelves
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all over the country in what we called
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We're like Santa Claus,
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because Santa Claus
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breaks into people's houses. We don't.
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they were surprised to find their doll
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<i>It was real funny 'cause it looks</i>
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we're calling that sort of basic idea
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these things that are not
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we want to bring that out.
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We want to show that.
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we think that the WTO
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is doing all these terrible things
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we target people
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in stuff that we've been doing
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which is trying to create public spectacles
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that, in some kind of poetic way,
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reveal something about our culture
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that's profoundly a problem.
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- Oh, dude.
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I got fuckin' lost on that...
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Oh, no.
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It's been a long day.
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Holy shit!
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Well, I probably started it
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even though maybe Unruh Hank Hardy
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when he was debating,
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an activist, Barry Coates,
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when he said that this is what
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to appear on CNBC
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MarketWrap Europe.
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responded and, of course, said,
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And the producer wanted him to debate
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an anti-globalization protester.
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If the WTO is serious about addressing
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the issues of world poverty,
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it would do things
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completely differently than it is now.
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Let me bring in Granwyth on that.
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Is that a fair point?
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Well, of course it is, but I think Barry,
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as well as all the other protesters,
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are simply, in a word, focused too much
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that this is a long-term problem
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that comes down
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to a problem of education.
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We have to find a way to convince
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perhaps not the protesters
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but the protesters' children
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to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman
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rather than what the protesters
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have been reared on--
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Trotsky and Robespierre
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and Abbie Hoffman.
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the direction of education,
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being put into private hands--
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a concentration of resources
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in the private sector--
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will naturally lead to this result,
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and we'll see
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the protesters' children being reared
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with an entirely different
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set of concerns.
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Let me bring you in on that, Barry.
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Can--can I just say
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that these kind of simplistic arguments
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are really, I mean, too insulting
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to most people to believe.
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The fact that we have a choice between
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Milton Friedman or Abbie Hoffman
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for where we get our source
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of economic history and philosophy.
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There are many, many thinkers
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from around the world--
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just not those ones
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employed by the WTO--
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that think the World Trade Organization
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policies are deeply damaging
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for the development prospects
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of the poorest countries.
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Let me go out to Granwyth.
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Yes. Well, I wanted to speak
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to Granwyth--sorry--to Barry's point
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that there are other thinkers.
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Well, who actually has the power
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in the world, and so who is correct
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in this kind of world view?
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I mean, I think the answer is easy.
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And if you look at the views
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held by myself, my organization,
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and many, many
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of the decision-makers in the world--
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the powerful people--they happen
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to coincide with what I'm explaining.
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And I think this is enough
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in this sort of view.
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Briefly, Barry.
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So, I mean--what we have here
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is a picture of the rich and powerful people
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believe a certain philosophy
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which they then propound
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through the institutions
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in which they have a powerful voice.
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And I think this is exactly the model
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that is being questioned.
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And, increasingly, what there is
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is a very large body
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of people who are concerned
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about these rules.
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The people on the streets
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of Genoa and Seattle
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are not representative
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of the overall movement.
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They are the tip of the iceberg.
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We did a study last year
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that looked across developing countries
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and found that in the space
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of one year, in 50 protests,
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more than a million people
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from developing countries
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were out trying to change the rules
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that were being imposed on them
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by the World Bank and the IMF
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and locked down
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through the World Trade Organization.
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Thank you. We must finish.
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Barry Coates, thank you for joining us.
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And also Granwyth Hulatberi and
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Vernon Ellis on the line from New York.
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Section three?
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Well...
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It's not exactly a garment bag,
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but it's, uh...
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...it'll work.
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Yeah? You think this
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is very business-like?
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It's like very official?
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Very...very big money.
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Okay, good. That's what I need.
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I need a big money watch.
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So are you as nervous
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as you were for Salzburg?
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The thing is, like,
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even with the Salzburg thing,
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we went into it, like...
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sort of--we went there really nervous,
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but the whole time kind of--
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it doesn't really sink in
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till you're actually there.
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Right.
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Well, I think it's good you guys,
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from what I've seen of the speech,
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360
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it kind of starts out
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the most normal that it is,
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so that he can get comfortable,
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and people--
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he can sort of slowly
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work his way up into it.
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Son of a fucking bitch.
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Shit.
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Yeah, do you have a rag? Fuck.
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Shit. I have one that has shoe polish
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on it, but that's not right, right?
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- The screen get a little paint on it?
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- Yeah.
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- It sounds like a lawn mower.
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- It's a little loud, yeah.
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- That's not good.
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- Forget it.
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Look, it made a new noise.
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Good. Good. Good. Great.
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- Is it great?
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- Try it.
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It doesn't work now.
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- Oh, listen! Yeah.
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- There it goes!
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Gotta hurry!
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Okay, ten minutes.
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They're both here.
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Hey, Sal.
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Thanks.
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Good luck.
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- We'll see how it goes.
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- Thanks for everything.
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Yeah, sleep good.
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Have a good time here.
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- Enjoy.
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- See you soon.
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Move into my room.
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Have enjoyment.
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Okay.
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Is this everything?
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Wow. Look how efficient.
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Okay.
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Efficient.
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A model of efficiency right here.
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You have some crap on your face
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right here. No, over here.
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388
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00:24:57,075 --> 00:24:58,133
|
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Much better.
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|
389
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|
00:25:30,576 --> 00:25:32,407
|
|
We arrived last night.
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|
|
390
|
|
00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:34,809
|
|
You had to take a nap.
|
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You had to get some sleep.
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|
|
|
391
|
|
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,211
|
|
I just crashed, yeah.
|
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|
|
392
|
|
00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:40,115
|
|
And I went and basically
|
|
scoped out the lecture site.
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|
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393
|
|
00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,586
|
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There was a sign on the door
|
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that said, "Textiles of the Future,"
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394
|
|
00:25:43,655 --> 00:25:47,591
|
|
Unruh Hank Hardy was
|
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the first speaker--Hank Hardy Unruh.
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|
|
|
395
|
|
00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,059
|
|
And, you know,
|
|
it all looked sort of official.
|
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|
396
|
|
00:25:50,128 --> 00:25:52,790
|
|
The coffee cups were out
|
|
for the morning.
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397
|
|
00:25:52,865 --> 00:25:54,856
|
|
So I thought,
|
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"This is great. I'm all ready.
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|
|
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398
|
|
00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,094
|
|
I know exactly where it is.
|
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We can go there."
|
|
|
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399
|
|
00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:59,569
|
|
I had a time--
|
|
I set up a little timetable,
|
|
|
|
400
|
|
00:25:59,638 --> 00:26:03,836
|
|
I got maps of the thing and all
|
|
the updated conference information.
|
|
|
|
401
|
|
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,940
|
|
Came back here.
|
|
Then we went to sleep early.
|
|
|
|
402
|
|
00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:13,007
|
|
Hank was snoring immediately,
|
|
but I wasn't able to sleep at all, really.
|
|
|
|
403
|
|
00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:14,780
|
|
I just stayed there awake in bed
|
|
|
|
404
|
|
00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:18,516
|
|
and occasionally I'd go in the bathroom
|
|
and turn on the light and read brochures
|
|
|
|
405
|
|
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,491
|
|
because I was, like,
|
|
just unable to sleep.
|
|
|
|
406
|
|
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,893
|
|
And eventually I think I fell asleep
|
|
just before waking up.
|
|
|
|
407
|
|
00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:29,894
|
|
Great.
|
|
|
|
408
|
|
00:26:32,671 --> 00:26:35,401
|
|
So I'm leaving my wallet here.
|
|
|
|
409
|
|
00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,234
|
|
Okay, let's go.
|
|
|
|
410
|
|
00:26:43,849 --> 00:26:45,510
|
|
- Wait.
|
|
- It's 8:00.
|
|
|
|
411
|
|
00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,575
|
|
I think I really will leave it here.
|
|
|
|
412
|
|
00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:54,924
|
|
Are you coming?
|
|
|
|
413
|
|
00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,922
|
|
Hank, this is a little early
|
|
to get up.
|
|
|
|
414
|
|
00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:06,499
|
|
- It's all right.
|
|
- I mean, I thought this was a vacation.
|
|
|
|
415
|
|
00:27:06,571 --> 00:27:08,232
|
|
- Like what?
|
|
- A vacation.
|
|
|
|
416
|
|
00:27:08,307 --> 00:27:09,706
|
|
I know.
|
|
|
|
417
|
|
00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,437
|
|
- I wanna go on a vacation.
|
|
- They take me to Finland...
|
|
|
|
418
|
|
00:27:17,349 --> 00:27:20,682
|
|
Let me take care of this egg for you.
|
|
I'll just peel it.
|
|
|
|
419
|
|
00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,413
|
|
That'll be nice. Thank you.
|
|
|
|
420
|
|
00:27:27,292 --> 00:27:29,783
|
|
- But we're behind schedule.
|
|
- Are we?
|
|
|
|
421
|
|
00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:35,026
|
|
A little bit. It's after 8:00, and I really
|
|
wanted to be at the venue at 8:00.
|
|
|
|
422
|
|
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,761
|
|
- Okay.
|
|
- But we're doing fine.
|
|
|
|
423
|
|
00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,996
|
|
- Is it after 8:00?
|
|
- It is after 8:00.
|
|
|
|
424
|
|
00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:40,231
|
|
Yeah.
|
|
|
|
425
|
|
00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:44,969
|
|
You know, pretend like...
|
|
|
|
426
|
|
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,383
|
|
Great. We're early.
|
|
|
|
427
|
|
00:27:56,455 --> 00:27:57,615
|
|
Oh, good.
|
|
|
|
428
|
|
00:28:00,192 --> 00:28:03,025
|
|
Hello, I'm Hank Hardy Unruh.
|
|
I'm from the--
|
|
|
|
429
|
|
00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,495
|
|
- Oh, right. Nice to meet you.
|
|
- Nice to meet you.
|
|
|
|
430
|
|
00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,725
|
|
- We were expecting you.
|
|
- Oh, good.
|
|
|
|
431
|
|
00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,428
|
|
It's not 9:30--no.
|
|
It's 8:30, right?
|
|
|
|
432
|
|
00:28:12,237 --> 00:28:16,071
|
|
- But you will have a...
|
|
- It's 8:30 now...is it?
|
|
|
|
433
|
|
00:28:16,141 --> 00:28:20,475
|
|
lt...is...it's 9:30, yes.
|
|
|
|
434
|
|
00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:21,876
|
|
- Now?
|
|
- Yes.
|
|
|
|
435
|
|
00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:24,108
|
|
- Yeah.
|
|
- The time is 9:30?
|
|
|
|
436
|
|
00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:25,581
|
|
- Yes.
|
|
- Yeah. Almost.
|
|
|
|
437
|
|
00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,380
|
|
- I'm on at...
|
|
- It's 27 past 9:00 at the moment.
|
|
|
|
438
|
|
00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,944
|
|
Oh, my God.
|
|
We're an hour off.
|
|
|
|
439
|
|
00:28:31,023 --> 00:28:33,014
|
|
- Oh, my God. Thank you.
|
|
- You're welcome.
|
|
|
|
440
|
|
00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:36,458
|
|
- Well, we have to--we start in three--
|
|
- Anyhow, it was nice to see you.
|
|
|
|
441
|
|
00:28:36,528 --> 00:28:38,462
|
|
Do they know
|
|
that he's going on now?
|
|
|
|
442
|
|
00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:41,124
|
|
Yeah--well,
|
|
...was expecting you.
|
|
|
|
443
|
|
00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:43,258
|
|
- Oh, jeez. Okay.
|
|
- Okay, we...
|
|
|
|
444
|
|
00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,667
|
|
Are you coming, too?
|
|
Have you registered?
|
|
|
|
445
|
|
00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:53,166
|
|
I'm his assistant.
|
|
We're both working with him.
|
|
|
|
446
|
|
00:28:53,245 --> 00:28:55,736
|
|
We have to go take care
|
|
of a few things now.
|
|
|
|
447
|
|
00:28:55,814 --> 00:28:57,543
|
|
- Here it is.
|
|
- Okay.
|
|
|
|
448
|
|
00:28:57,616 --> 00:29:00,608
|
|
- Would you like to join the dinner?
|
|
- Yes, please.
|
|
|
|
449
|
|
00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:03,279
|
|
- Is there a fee, or...
|
|
- No, it's included.
|
|
|
|
450
|
|
00:29:03,355 --> 00:29:06,620
|
|
Okay. Yes, we'll--
|
|
we'll join the dinner. That's great.
|
|
|
|
451
|
|
00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,357
|
|
- Wow.
|
|
- We must hurry, I guess.
|
|
|
|
452
|
|
00:29:09,428 --> 00:29:12,022
|
|
- Yes. I will accompany you.
|
|
- Please. Yes.
|
|
|
|
453
|
|
00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,696
|
|
Actually, no, you can't go in now
|
|
|
|
454
|
|
00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,099
|
|
'cause you first have
|
|
to take care of that business.
|
|
|
|
455
|
|
00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,662
|
|
We're an hour--we're...
|
|
we had an hour off.
|
|
|
|
456
|
|
00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,402
|
|
- I have to do something.
|
|
- Yes.
|
|
|
|
457
|
|
00:29:24,476 --> 00:29:26,808
|
|
He has to make
|
|
a very important phone call right now.
|
|
|
|
458
|
|
00:29:26,878 --> 00:29:28,709
|
|
- It'll take me five minutes.
|
|
- Right now?
|
|
|
|
459
|
|
00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,838
|
|
I'm sorry.
|
|
|
|
460
|
|
00:29:29,915 --> 00:29:32,748
|
|
But you will have your presentation
|
|
starting after two minutes.
|
|
|
|
461
|
|
00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:35,309
|
|
Please tell them
|
|
that I'll be three minutes late.
|
|
|
|
462
|
|
00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,288
|
|
Well, there's a detail.
|
|
|
|
463
|
|
00:29:43,361 --> 00:29:46,524
|
|
Jesus. Fuck.
|
|
How come we didn't know that?
|
|
|
|
464
|
|
00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:48,759
|
|
I don't know.
|
|
That's really incredible.
|
|
|
|
465
|
|
00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:52,292
|
|
- Come on.
|
|
- Okay. Pick up.
|
|
|
|
466
|
|
00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:55,766
|
|
Jeez, this is terrible.
|
|
|
|
467
|
|
00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,105
|
|
It's the stupidest--
|
|
I can't...
|
|
|
|
468
|
|
00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:02,044
|
|
There's--it's an hour's difference.
|
|
The time zone is different here.
|
|
|
|
469
|
|
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:08,147
|
|
It's unbelievable.
|
|
How the fuck can that happen?
|
|
|
|
470
|
|
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,054
|
|
- Okay, there. That's done now.
|
|
- Ladies and gentlemen...
|
|
|
|
471
|
|
00:30:12,124 --> 00:30:14,524
|
|
Okay, quick,
|
|
that shirt--the underwear.
|
|
|
|
472
|
|
00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,256
|
|
The gold underwear.
|
|
|
|
473
|
|
00:30:17,329 --> 00:30:18,591
|
|
Okay...
|
|
|
|
474
|
|
00:30:19,998 --> 00:30:21,989
|
|
Do I have to put
|
|
something through here?
|
|
|
|
475
|
|
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:23,728
|
|
- No.
|
|
- Okay.
|
|
|
|
476
|
|
00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:24,962
|
|
Need help?
|
|
|
|
477
|
|
00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,238
|
|
- Your testicles hanging out?
|
|
- Uh, yeah.
|
|
|
|
478
|
|
00:30:31,209 --> 00:30:32,267
|
|
Okay.
|
|
|
|
479
|
|
00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,504
|
|
Here you go.
|
|
|
|
480
|
|
00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:35,939
|
|
Okay. Great.
|
|
|
|
481
|
|
00:30:37,916 --> 00:30:41,647
|
|
Oh, God.
|
|
Okay...great.
|
|
|
|
482
|
|
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,188
|
|
- It's got a little air in it.
|
|
- Okay, now the pants.
|
|
|
|
483
|
|
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,847
|
|
Hurry.
|
|
|
|
484
|
|
00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:53,094
|
|
Oh, hi. Nice to meet you.
|
|
I'm so sorry.
|
|
|
|
485
|
|
00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:13,348
|
|
Thank you.
|
|
I'm terribly sorry--
|
|
|
|
486
|
|
00:31:15,787 --> 00:31:17,618
|
|
Yes, I have my presentation.
|
|
|
|
487
|
|
00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:20,788
|
|
Terribly sorry.
|
|
|
|
488
|
|
00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:24,727
|
|
I think the World Trade Organization is
|
|
supposed to know about time zones, but...
|
|
|
|
489
|
|
00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,922
|
|
Somebody said,
|
|
"Isn't there a time difference?"
|
|
|
|
490
|
|
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,096
|
|
And I said, "Nope.
|
|
All of Europe, same time zone."
|
|
|
|
491
|
|
00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,004
|
|
- So that convinced us all.
|
|
- Me too.
|
|
|
|
492
|
|
00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:40,238
|
|
We were convinced that it was the right
|
|
time, and we woke up this morning...
|
|
|
|
493
|
|
00:31:40,312 --> 00:31:43,440
|
|
And we were running five
|
|
or ten minutes late,
|
|
|
|
494
|
|
00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:47,474
|
|
and then figured out
|
|
that the laptop wasn't working.
|
|
|
|
495
|
|
00:31:47,552 --> 00:31:49,952
|
|
No, maybe we could switch the order.
|
|
|
|
496
|
|
00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,353
|
|
Could we have somebody else go,
|
|
and then I go later?
|
|
|
|
497
|
|
00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,153
|
|
They said, "I think we can do that."
|
|
|
|
498
|
|
00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,320
|
|
Then they called the coffee people
|
|
and talked to the coffee people
|
|
|
|
499
|
|
00:31:57,395 --> 00:31:58,953
|
|
to see if the coffee was possible.
|
|
|
|
500
|
|
00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,019
|
|
That was it.
|
|
|
|
501
|
|
00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,538
|
|
Thank you very much.
|
|
|
|
502
|
|
00:33:15,106 --> 00:33:16,368
|
|
This one...
|
|
|
|
503
|
|
00:33:17,642 --> 00:33:21,373
|
|
It's quite an honor to be here
|
|
in Tampere addressing this audience
|
|
|
|
504
|
|
00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:25,177
|
|
of the most outstanding
|
|
textile workers in the world today.
|
|
|
|
505
|
|
00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:30,451
|
|
I see on all the faces here today
|
|
a touching childlike eagerness
|
|
|
|
506
|
|
00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:34,390
|
|
to tackle the biggest
|
|
textiles questions in the world.
|
|
|
|
507
|
|
00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:36,791
|
|
How do we at the WTO fit in?
|
|
|
|
508
|
|
00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:41,355
|
|
What we want to do at the WTO
|
|
is help you achieve your dollar results.
|
|
|
|
509
|
|
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,697
|
|
And in just 20 minutes from now,
|
|
|
|
510
|
|
00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:48,000
|
|
I'm going to show you
|
|
the WTO's very own solution
|
|
|
|
511
|
|
00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:51,804
|
|
to two of the very biggest problems
|
|
in management.
|
|
|
|
512
|
|
00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,107
|
|
One--maintaining rapport
|
|
with distant workforce,
|
|
|
|
513
|
|
00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,014
|
|
and two--maintaining
|
|
healthful amounts of leisure.
|
|
|
|
514
|
|
00:33:59,084 --> 00:34:03,282
|
|
This solution, appropriately enough,
|
|
is based in textiles.
|
|
|
|
515
|
|
00:34:05,824 --> 00:34:09,191
|
|
But how did workers
|
|
ever get to be a problem?
|
|
|
|
516
|
|
00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:12,227
|
|
Before unveiling our solution,
|
|
|
|
517
|
|
00:34:12,297 --> 00:34:17,291
|
|
I'd like to talk a bit about the history
|
|
of the worker management problem.
|
|
|
|
518
|
|
00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:21,032
|
|
We all know about the American
|
|
Civil War--at least in the U.S.
|
|
|
|
519
|
|
00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:25,270
|
|
It was the bloodiest, least-profitable war
|
|
in the history of our country.
|
|
|
|
520
|
|
00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:27,709
|
|
A war in which unbelievably
|
|
huge amounts of money
|
|
|
|
521
|
|
00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:30,942
|
|
went right down the drain--
|
|
and all for textiles.
|
|
|
|
522
|
|
00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:35,952
|
|
By the 1860s, the South
|
|
was utterly flush with cash.
|
|
|
|
523
|
|
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,511
|
|
It had recently benefited
|
|
from the cotton gin--
|
|
|
|
524
|
|
00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:41,058
|
|
an invention that took
|
|
the seeds out of cotton
|
|
|
|
525
|
|
00:34:41,126 --> 00:34:44,095
|
|
and the South
|
|
out of its pre-industrial past.
|
|
|
|
526
|
|
00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,823
|
|
Hundreds of thousands of workers
|
|
|
|
527
|
|
00:34:45,897 --> 00:34:48,331
|
|
previously unemployed
|
|
in their countries of origin
|
|
|
|
528
|
|
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,391
|
|
were given useful jobs in textiles.
|
|
|
|
529
|
|
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,162
|
|
Into this rosy picture of freedom
|
|
and boom stepped--you guessed it--
|
|
|
|
530
|
|
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,231
|
|
the North.
|
|
|
|
531
|
|
00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:01,301
|
|
Now, some Civil War apologists have said
|
|
that the Civil War, for all its faults,
|
|
|
|
532
|
|
00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:03,609
|
|
at least had the effect of outlawing
|
|
|
|
533
|
|
00:35:03,681 --> 00:35:06,616
|
|
an involuntarily imported
|
|
workforce model of work.
|
|
|
|
534
|
|
00:35:06,684 --> 00:35:09,278
|
|
Now, this model is, of course,
|
|
a terrible thing.
|
|
|
|
535
|
|
00:35:09,354 --> 00:35:11,345
|
|
I myself am an abolitionist.
|
|
|
|
536
|
|
00:35:11,423 --> 00:35:15,757
|
|
But, in fact, there is no doubt
|
|
that, left to their own devices,
|
|
|
|
537
|
|
00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:20,423
|
|
markets would've eventually replaced
|
|
slavery with cleaner sources of labor.
|
|
|
|
538
|
|
00:35:21,065 --> 00:35:23,363
|
|
To prove my point,
|
|
please join me
|
|
|
|
539
|
|
00:35:23,435 --> 00:35:26,768
|
|
on what Albert Einstein used to call
|
|
a thought experiment.
|
|
|
|
540
|
|
00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:32,006
|
|
Suppose involuntarily imported labor
|
|
had never been outlawed.
|
|
|
|
541
|
|
00:35:32,076 --> 00:35:35,671
|
|
That slaves still existed,
|
|
and that it were easy to own one.
|
|
|
|
542
|
|
00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:39,581
|
|
What do you think it would cost today
|
|
to profitably maintain a slave,
|
|
|
|
543
|
|
00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:41,642
|
|
say, here in Tampere?
|
|
|
|
544
|
|
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,123
|
|
Let's see...a finished clothing set
|
|
costs $50 at the very least.
|
|
|
|
545
|
|
00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,923
|
|
Two meals from McDonald's
|
|
cost about $10.00.
|
|
|
|
546
|
|
00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:54,988
|
|
The cheapest small room
|
|
probably runs for about $250 a month.
|
|
|
|
547
|
|
00:35:55,066 --> 00:35:58,001
|
|
To function well, you have to pay
|
|
for your slave's health care.
|
|
|
|
548
|
|
00:35:58,069 --> 00:36:02,130
|
|
If its country of origin was polluted,
|
|
for example, that might run expensively.
|
|
|
|
549
|
|
00:36:02,207 --> 00:36:05,199
|
|
And, of course, what with
|
|
child labor laws here in Finland,
|
|
|
|
550
|
|
00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,109
|
|
much of the youth market
|
|
is simply not available.
|
|
|
|
551
|
|
00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:13,150
|
|
Now leave the same slave
|
|
back at home. Let's say Gabon.
|
|
|
|
552
|
|
00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:17,086
|
|
In Gabon, $10 pays
|
|
for two weeks of food.
|
|
|
|
553
|
|
00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:22,218
|
|
$250 pays for two years
|
|
of housing, not a month, at best.
|
|
|
|
554
|
|
00:36:22,293 --> 00:36:25,956
|
|
$50 pays for a lifetime
|
|
of budget clothing.
|
|
|
|
555
|
|
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,964
|
|
And health care is,
|
|
of course, cheaper.
|
|
|
|
556
|
|
00:36:28,032 --> 00:36:32,867
|
|
On top of it all...youth can be
|
|
gainfully employed without restriction.
|
|
|
|
557
|
|
00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,428
|
|
The biggest benefit
|
|
of the remote labor system, though,
|
|
|
|
558
|
|
00:36:35,507 --> 00:36:37,668
|
|
is to the slave him or herself,
|
|
|
|
559
|
|
00:36:37,742 --> 00:36:42,008
|
|
because in Gabon there is no need
|
|
for the slave not to be free.
|
|
|
|
560
|
|
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,479
|
|
This is primarily because
|
|
|
|
561
|
|
00:36:43,548 --> 00:36:46,483
|
|
there are no one-time
|
|
slave transport costs to recoup
|
|
|
|
562
|
|
00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,542
|
|
and so the potential losses
|
|
from fleeing
|
|
|
|
563
|
|
00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,919
|
|
are limited to the slave's
|
|
rudimentary training.
|
|
|
|
564
|
|
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,049
|
|
Since the slave can be free,
|
|
|
|
565
|
|
00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,617
|
|
he or she suddenly becomes
|
|
a worker rather than a slave.
|
|
|
|
566
|
|
00:36:57,695 --> 00:37:01,290
|
|
Also terrific for morale
|
|
is that slaves--workers--
|
|
|
|
567
|
|
00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:03,766
|
|
have the luxury of remaining
|
|
in their native habitat
|
|
|
|
568
|
|
00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:06,702
|
|
and don't have to relocate to places
|
|
where they would be subject
|
|
|
|
569
|
|
00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:10,263
|
|
to such unpleasantries
|
|
as homesickness and racism.
|
|
|
|
570
|
|
00:37:11,009 --> 00:37:14,172
|
|
I think it's clear
|
|
from our little thought experiment
|
|
|
|
571
|
|
00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:17,737
|
|
that if the North and South
|
|
had simply let the market sort it out
|
|
|
|
572
|
|
00:37:17,815 --> 00:37:19,612
|
|
without protectionist tariffs,
|
|
|
|
573
|
|
00:37:19,684 --> 00:37:23,745
|
|
they would've quickly given up slavery
|
|
for something more efficient anyhow.
|
|
|
|
574
|
|
00:37:23,821 --> 00:37:25,152
|
|
By forcing the issue,
|
|
|
|
575
|
|
00:37:25,223 --> 00:37:29,159
|
|
the North not only committed a terrible
|
|
injustice against the freedom of the South,
|
|
|
|
576
|
|
00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,161
|
|
but also deprived slavery
|
|
|
|
577
|
|
00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:34,426
|
|
of its natural development
|
|
into remote labor.
|
|
|
|
578
|
|
00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:38,324
|
|
Had the leaders
|
|
of the 1860s United States
|
|
|
|
579
|
|
00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:40,963
|
|
understood what our leaders
|
|
understand today,
|
|
|
|
580
|
|
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,303
|
|
the Civil War
|
|
would never have happened.
|
|
|
|
581
|
|
00:37:44,142 --> 00:37:47,009
|
|
In a world where the headquarters
|
|
of a company might be in New York,
|
|
|
|
582
|
|
00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,342
|
|
Hong Kong, or Espoo, Finland,
|
|
|
|
583
|
|
00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:53,578
|
|
and the workers are in Gabon,
|
|
Rangoon, or Estonia,
|
|
|
|
584
|
|
00:37:53,651 --> 00:37:56,984
|
|
how does a manager maintain
|
|
proper rapport with the workers,
|
|
|
|
585
|
|
00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,216
|
|
and how does he or she
|
|
ensure from a distance
|
|
|
|
586
|
|
00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:02,350
|
|
that workers perform their work
|
|
in an ethical fashion?
|
|
|
|
587
|
|
00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:05,790
|
|
I'm about to show you
|
|
an actual prototype
|
|
|
|
588
|
|
00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:10,323
|
|
of the WTO's solution to two major
|
|
management problems of today.
|
|
|
|
589
|
|
00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,234
|
|
Now, we all know that not even
|
|
the best workplace design
|
|
|
|
590
|
|
00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:16,967
|
|
can help even the most
|
|
astute manager keep track of workers.
|
|
|
|
591
|
|
00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:22,308
|
|
What you need is a solution that enables
|
|
complete rapport with workers--
|
|
|
|
592
|
|
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,871
|
|
especially when they're
|
|
located far away.
|
|
|
|
593
|
|
00:38:26,084 --> 00:38:28,245
|
|
Mike, would you help me a moment?
|
|
|
|
594
|
|
00:38:50,775 --> 00:38:52,106
|
|
Thank you.
|
|
|
|
595
|
|
00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,906
|
|
This is much better.
|
|
Much more comfortable.
|
|
|
|
596
|
|
00:38:56,414 --> 00:39:00,578
|
|
This is the WTO's answer to two
|
|
of the major management problems,
|
|
|
|
597
|
|
00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:03,712
|
|
and we're calling it
|
|
the Management Leisure Suit.
|
|
|
|
598
|
|
00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,120
|
|
It's--the two problems again--
|
|
|
|
599
|
|
00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:09,023
|
|
how to maintain close rapport
|
|
with distant workers
|
|
|
|
600
|
|
00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:13,928
|
|
and how to remain comfortable
|
|
and increase leisure activities.
|
|
|
|
601
|
|
00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,831
|
|
How does
|
|
the Management Leisure Suit work?
|
|
|
|
602
|
|
00:39:16,901 --> 00:39:20,064
|
|
Besides being extremely comfortable,
|
|
as I can guarantee you.
|
|
|
|
603
|
|
00:39:20,138 --> 00:39:23,904
|
|
Well, allow me to describe
|
|
the suit's core features.
|
|
|
|
604
|
|
00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,625
|
|
This...
|
|
|
|
605
|
|
00:39:50,702 --> 00:39:54,103
|
|
This is the E.V.A.--
|
|
|
|
606
|
|
00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:58,040
|
|
the Employee Visualization Appendage.
|
|
|
|
607
|
|
00:39:58,109 --> 00:40:01,476
|
|
It's an instantly deployable,
|
|
hip-mounted device
|
|
|
|
608
|
|
00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:04,606
|
|
with totally hands-free operation...
|
|
|
|
609
|
|
00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:09,016
|
|
that allows the manager to see
|
|
his employees directly right here.
|
|
|
|
610
|
|
00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:13,490
|
|
Signals communicating the exact
|
|
amounts and quality of physical work
|
|
|
|
611
|
|
00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:15,651
|
|
are transmitted
|
|
not only visually right here,
|
|
|
|
612
|
|
00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:21,359
|
|
but directly through electric channels
|
|
implanted directly into the manager.
|
|
|
|
613
|
|
00:40:21,432 --> 00:40:25,766
|
|
The workers, for their part, are fitted
|
|
with corresponding transmitting chips
|
|
|
|
614
|
|
00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:29,637
|
|
that are implanted humanely
|
|
directly into the shoulder.
|
|
|
|
615
|
|
00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:32,699
|
|
But the other equally important
|
|
achievement of the MLS
|
|
|
|
616
|
|
00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,438
|
|
has to do with leisure.
|
|
|
|
617
|
|
00:40:34,512 --> 00:40:38,312
|
|
In the United States, leisure--
|
|
another word for freedom, really--
|
|
|
|
618
|
|
00:40:38,382 --> 00:40:42,284
|
|
has been decreasing steadily
|
|
since the 1970s.
|
|
|
|
619
|
|
00:40:42,353 --> 00:40:45,948
|
|
The Management Leisure Suit
|
|
permits the manager to reverse this trend
|
|
|
|
620
|
|
00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,321
|
|
by letting him do his work anywhere
|
|
|
|
621
|
|
00:40:48,392 --> 00:40:51,486
|
|
while remaining
|
|
in complete touch with the workers,
|
|
|
|
622
|
|
00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:55,225
|
|
physically sensing what's going on
|
|
in the workforce, on the floor,
|
|
|
|
623
|
|
00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:58,234
|
|
through channels implanted
|
|
directly into the manager.
|
|
|
|
624
|
|
00:40:58,302 --> 00:41:01,135
|
|
Again, the manager
|
|
sees the employees,
|
|
|
|
625
|
|
00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:03,366
|
|
but also feels what they're feeling
|
|
|
|
626
|
|
00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,775
|
|
and can select where to focus
|
|
in the workplace environment.
|
|
|
|
627
|
|
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,011
|
|
So, in conclusion,
|
|
|
|
628
|
|
00:41:11,082 --> 00:41:14,745
|
|
I'd like to ask,
|
|
is this a science-fiction scenario?
|
|
|
|
629
|
|
00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:21,914
|
|
The answer is no.
|
|
|
|
630
|
|
00:41:22,927 --> 00:41:25,452
|
|
Everything we've seen here,
|
|
everything we've been talking about
|
|
|
|
631
|
|
00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:27,020
|
|
is entirely possible today.
|
|
|
|
632
|
|
00:41:27,832 --> 00:41:31,233
|
|
We can always look forward
|
|
on the highways of progress
|
|
|
|
633
|
|
00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:33,361
|
|
towards ever-new horizons
|
|
|
|
634
|
|
00:41:33,437 --> 00:41:37,703
|
|
with cooperation and mutual delight
|
|
in the fruits of prosperity.
|
|
|
|
635
|
|
00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:40,835
|
|
I'm very excited to be here.
|
|
Thank you very much.
|
|
|
|
636
|
|
00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,098
|
|
Something we're trying
|
|
to do more and more as...
|
|
|
|
637
|
|
00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:32,620
|
|
I wasn't depressed
|
|
by people not reacting,
|
|
|
|
638
|
|
00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,098
|
|
I wasn't depressed by people just
|
|
swallowing it and not asking questions
|
|
|
|
639
|
|
00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:40,661
|
|
because I thought, "Well, that shows
|
|
that you need some sort of control,"
|
|
|
|
640
|
|
00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:44,071
|
|
because the WTO--me--
|
|
can come in
|
|
|
|
641
|
|
00:42:44,141 --> 00:42:48,407
|
|
and say these amazingly hideous things
|
|
to this group of the most educated people,
|
|
|
|
642
|
|
00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:52,210
|
|
like the top .1% education-wise people
|
|
in the entire world
|
|
|
|
643
|
|
00:42:52,283 --> 00:42:54,148
|
|
in a developed country
|
|
like Finland--
|
|
|
|
644
|
|
00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,686
|
|
these people all have PhDs
|
|
or advanced degrees--
|
|
|
|
645
|
|
00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,745
|
|
and you can say
|
|
the most atrocious things
|
|
|
|
646
|
|
00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:02,315
|
|
and nobody will really react
|
|
and nobody will really care.
|
|
|
|
647
|
|
00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:06,921
|
|
It's like, you know,
|
|
what can't corporations get away with?
|
|
|
|
648
|
|
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,641
|
|
So, where are we?
|
|
|
|
649
|
|
00:43:20,711 --> 00:43:23,305
|
|
Well, we're arriving
|
|
in Helsinki right now.
|
|
|
|
650
|
|
00:43:24,482 --> 00:43:26,416
|
|
We left the conference this morning.
|
|
|
|
651
|
|
00:43:26,484 --> 00:43:31,478
|
|
It was just--it had driven us
|
|
completely mad after dinner last night.
|
|
|
|
652
|
|
00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:33,955
|
|
I think we had our fill with dinner.
|
|
|
|
653
|
|
00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,084
|
|
I had to actually leave
|
|
a little bit early.
|
|
|
|
654
|
|
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,494
|
|
I went over to the table where Unruh--
|
|
|
|
655
|
|
00:43:40,564 --> 00:43:44,694
|
|
Hank Hardy had to sit
|
|
with the big men and eat,
|
|
|
|
656
|
|
00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:47,101
|
|
and I told him
|
|
that we needed to leave
|
|
|
|
657
|
|
00:43:47,171 --> 00:43:51,835
|
|
because we had a telephone meeting
|
|
with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately.
|
|
|
|
658
|
|
00:43:53,878 --> 00:43:55,209
|
|
- Great.
|
|
- Hi.
|
|
|
|
659
|
|
00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:56,610
|
|
Sorry to butt in a minute,
|
|
|
|
660
|
|
00:43:56,681 --> 00:43:59,013
|
|
but we're supposed to meet
|
|
Manduka Djubango...
|
|
|
|
661
|
|
00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:00,812
|
|
- Oh, God.
|
|
- ...at 10:00.
|
|
|
|
662
|
|
00:44:00,885 --> 00:44:02,716
|
|
And then we both started laughing,
|
|
|
|
663
|
|
00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:05,984
|
|
which was really not convenient
|
|
for the context.
|
|
|
|
664
|
|
00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:10,016
|
|
So we left, and we just decided
|
|
that, basically,
|
|
|
|
665
|
|
00:44:10,094 --> 00:44:14,497
|
|
we couldn't figure out what else
|
|
we could possibly do at this conference,
|
|
|
|
666
|
|
00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:18,228
|
|
so we just thought, "Well,
|
|
let's go to Helsinki instead."
|
|
|
|
667
|
|
00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:20,665
|
|
So, this is the paper.
|
|
|
|
668
|
|
00:44:20,738 --> 00:44:23,070
|
|
On the front page--
|
|
I just discovered it--
|
|
|
|
669
|
|
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,473
|
|
it says there's a seminar
|
|
at the university
|
|
|
|
670
|
|
00:44:26,544 --> 00:44:30,878
|
|
and that somebody talked
|
|
about controlling remote workers
|
|
|
|
671
|
|
00:44:30,948 --> 00:44:34,111
|
|
with electrical impulsions.
|
|
|
|
672
|
|
00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:37,018
|
|
And then you turn to the page, and...
|
|
|
|
673
|
|
00:44:38,356 --> 00:44:39,846
|
|
...and that's what you get.
|
|
|
|
674
|
|
00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:45,794
|
|
And this right here represents
|
|
the World Trade Organization.
|
|
|
|
675
|
|
00:44:45,863 --> 00:44:50,891
|
|
This... <i>is</i>
|
|
the World Trade Organization.
|
|
|
|
676
|
|
00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:59,600
|
|
I went down to these
|
|
Mexican border towns in the mid '80s.
|
|
|
|
677
|
|
00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,508
|
|
They were called "Maquilladoras"
|
|
|
|
678
|
|
00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:04,173
|
|
when they had
|
|
the first trade agreements
|
|
|
|
679
|
|
00:45:04,248 --> 00:45:06,944
|
|
between Mexico and the United States.
|
|
|
|
680
|
|
00:45:07,018 --> 00:45:10,283
|
|
And everyone was saying, "This is
|
|
gonna raise Mexico out of poverty,"
|
|
|
|
681
|
|
00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:12,845
|
|
and things were gonna be so great,
|
|
and within ten years,
|
|
|
|
682
|
|
00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,517
|
|
they'd all be driving
|
|
shiny new cars in Mexico.
|
|
|
|
683
|
|
00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:18,528
|
|
And I went down there and saw this--
|
|
|
|
684
|
|
00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,430
|
|
the incredible poverty
|
|
in these Mexican border towns.
|
|
|
|
685
|
|
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,402
|
|
Fifteen years later, I went back.
|
|
Not a damn thing had changed.
|
|
|
|
686
|
|
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:29,928
|
|
Here's all these workers working
|
|
for all these American corporations,
|
|
|
|
687
|
|
00:45:30,007 --> 00:45:32,532
|
|
and you just go across the street
|
|
|
|
688
|
|
00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:35,704
|
|
and you found people
|
|
living in the same horrid conditions,
|
|
|
|
689
|
|
00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:37,771
|
|
the same poverty existing.
|
|
|
|
690
|
|
00:45:37,848 --> 00:45:41,579
|
|
And you had to ask,
|
|
"Well, who's benefiting from this?"
|
|
|
|
691
|
|
00:45:41,652 --> 00:45:44,143
|
|
Who benefited were
|
|
these American corporations.
|
|
|
|
692
|
|
00:45:44,221 --> 00:45:46,712
|
|
During the 1990s,
|
|
they became even more wealthy,
|
|
|
|
693
|
|
00:45:46,791 --> 00:45:49,954
|
|
they posted record profits--
|
|
larger record profits,
|
|
|
|
694
|
|
00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,757
|
|
and the people in Mexico
|
|
just continued to suffer.
|
|
|
|
695
|
|
00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:55,390
|
|
It was all a big scam.
|
|
|
|
696
|
|
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,949
|
|
Is this the one?
|
|
|
|
697
|
|
00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:17,419
|
|
No. You got the wrong one.
|
|
|
|
698
|
|
00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:18,648
|
|
Shit.
|
|
|
|
699
|
|
00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:21,681
|
|
"Will WTO stand up?"
|
|
|
|
700
|
|
00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:24,751
|
|
Oh, my God. It's got pictures.
|
|
They're nice, too.
|
|
|
|
701
|
|
00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:26,820
|
|
Yeah, they actually look okay
|
|
at that size.
|
|
|
|
702
|
|
00:46:26,897 --> 00:46:30,560
|
|
"Bichlbaum isn't...
|
|
but he plays one on TV."
|
|
|
|
703
|
|
00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:33,034
|
|
This is basically the core
|
|
of what we do.
|
|
|
|
704
|
|
00:46:33,104 --> 00:46:36,801
|
|
All of these newspapers
|
|
and magazines have articles
|
|
|
|
705
|
|
00:46:36,874 --> 00:46:38,603
|
|
on the Yes Men,
|
|
|
|
706
|
|
00:46:38,676 --> 00:46:42,168
|
|
and this is why
|
|
we are doing these things.
|
|
|
|
707
|
|
00:46:42,246 --> 00:46:44,237
|
|
This is why we go
|
|
and do these conferences.
|
|
|
|
708
|
|
00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:46,647
|
|
It's not for the 200 people
|
|
or the hundred people
|
|
|
|
709
|
|
00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,878
|
|
that might see us give the lecture.
|
|
|
|
710
|
|
00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:50,784
|
|
Although we'd like them to come away
|
|
|
|
711
|
|
00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:53,517
|
|
with an interesting experience
|
|
from the lecture,
|
|
|
|
712
|
|
00:46:53,591 --> 00:46:57,994
|
|
the reason we do it is so that people
|
|
who read <i>Bizarre</i> magazine
|
|
|
|
713
|
|
00:46:58,062 --> 00:47:00,860
|
|
or the <i>New York Times</i>
|
|
or <i>Fortune</i> or <i>Harper's</i>
|
|
|
|
714
|
|
00:47:00,931 --> 00:47:03,593
|
|
can read about it
|
|
in the mainstream press.
|
|
|
|
715
|
|
00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:06,192
|
|
This is how millions of people
|
|
could read about it
|
|
|
|
716
|
|
00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:11,572
|
|
and potentially get turned on
|
|
to some of the ideas of anti-globalization.
|
|
|
|
717
|
|
00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:14,805
|
|
One of the problems
|
|
with the <i>Fortune</i> thing
|
|
|
|
718
|
|
00:47:14,879 --> 00:47:18,610
|
|
is that it's in this--
|
|
well, <i>Fortune--</i>
|
|
|
|
719
|
|
00:47:18,682 --> 00:47:22,846
|
|
it's read by business people
|
|
and accountants and that kind of thing.
|
|
|
|
720
|
|
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,758
|
|
And that's exactly who we're supposed
|
|
to be talking to in Australia in May.
|
|
|
|
721
|
|
00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:31,658
|
|
It's an accounting conference.
|
|
|
|
722
|
|
00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:34,721
|
|
It's a little...
|
|
a little worrisome.
|
|
|
|
723
|
|
00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,743
|
|
You need a new shirt?
|
|
One that's not wrinkled?
|
|
|
|
724
|
|
00:47:47,811 --> 00:47:48,800
|
|
Yeah.
|
|
|
|
725
|
|
00:47:48,879 --> 00:47:50,710
|
|
Will that be good with your thing?
|
|
|
|
726
|
|
00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:53,213
|
|
Do you think it'll work
|
|
with your suit?
|
|
|
|
727
|
|
00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:56,776
|
|
This one's extra large. Yeah, they'll all
|
|
work with my suit. It's terrible.
|
|
|
|
728
|
|
00:47:56,854 --> 00:47:59,186
|
|
- It's striped, though. Is that okay?
|
|
- Yeah.
|
|
|
|
729
|
|
00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:02,489
|
|
- Sure it's okay.
|
|
- Why don't you go get a shirt, then?
|
|
|
|
730
|
|
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,893
|
|
I'll just get this. Wait.
|
|
Oh, it's not very much cotton.
|
|
|
|
731
|
|
00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,624
|
|
- How much is it?
|
|
- I hate that.
|
|
|
|
732
|
|
00:48:07,698 --> 00:48:10,360
|
|
- 35%?
|
|
- It's 35%. It's like...
|
|
|
|
733
|
|
00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:11,526
|
|
No, it's fine for--
|
|
|
|
734
|
|
00:48:11,602 --> 00:48:13,536
|
|
It doesn't wrinkle much--
|
|
that's nice about that.
|
|
|
|
735
|
|
00:48:13,604 --> 00:48:16,164
|
|
I'll just wear it. All right.
|
|
|
|
736
|
|
00:48:22,846 --> 00:48:25,508
|
|
The thing is, there's a question
|
|
of whether he's--
|
|
|
|
737
|
|
00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:28,313
|
|
at what point he recognizes you
|
|
doesn't really matter.
|
|
|
|
738
|
|
00:48:28,385 --> 00:48:31,877
|
|
What we want is that moment
|
|
when he does recognize you.
|
|
|
|
739
|
|
00:48:31,956 --> 00:48:34,948
|
|
So if he recognizes you here
|
|
and sees that you're in the room,
|
|
|
|
740
|
|
00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:38,290
|
|
then he'll be looking back and forth
|
|
at you, at the screen.
|
|
|
|
741
|
|
00:48:38,362 --> 00:48:41,695
|
|
At that point, if he recognizes you,
|
|
we better say something.
|
|
|
|
742
|
|
00:48:45,536 --> 00:48:47,868
|
|
No, I think it's down here,
|
|
but I don't know.
|
|
|
|
743
|
|
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,801
|
|
It must be right down Morris.
|
|
|
|
744
|
|
00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,035
|
|
Remember we walked...
|
|
|
|
745
|
|
00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,442
|
|
It's on the end of this line here.
|
|
|
|
746
|
|
00:49:11,228 --> 00:49:12,286
|
|
Thanks.
|
|
|
|
747
|
|
00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:18,260
|
|
- Andy, hi. How're you doing?
|
|
- Barry. Nice to meet you.
|
|
|
|
748
|
|
00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:20,963
|
|
- Good to meet you.
|
|
- Good. Great.
|
|
|
|
749
|
|
00:49:21,038 --> 00:49:22,198
|
|
We're in London,
|
|
|
|
750
|
|
00:49:22,273 --> 00:49:26,266
|
|
and we were just at the offices
|
|
of the World Development Movement
|
|
|
|
751
|
|
00:49:26,343 --> 00:49:27,833
|
|
where we talked to Barry Coates,
|
|
|
|
752
|
|
00:49:27,911 --> 00:49:30,072
|
|
who's the director
|
|
of the World Development Movement
|
|
|
|
753
|
|
00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,140
|
|
and who showed up
|
|
on CNBC MarketWrap Europe
|
|
|
|
754
|
|
00:49:34,218 --> 00:49:37,881
|
|
debating our friend here--
|
|
Granwyth Hulatberi--
|
|
|
|
755
|
|
00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:42,289
|
|
about the prospects of WTO
|
|
and globalization.
|
|
|
|
756
|
|
00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:46,022
|
|
We kind of expected him maybe to have
|
|
a glimmer of recognition immediately,
|
|
|
|
757
|
|
00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,358
|
|
and he didn't--okay.
|
|
|
|
758
|
|
00:49:47,431 --> 00:49:50,025
|
|
Then we put on the tape and...
|
|
|
|
759
|
|
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,264
|
|
he laughed
|
|
at how horribly stupid it was,
|
|
|
|
760
|
|
00:49:54,338 --> 00:49:55,999
|
|
but he never realized
|
|
|
|
761
|
|
00:49:56,073 --> 00:49:59,406
|
|
that this wasn't really
|
|
a representative of the WTO.
|
|
|
|
762
|
|
00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:02,070
|
|
Even when he saw me
|
|
like this right next to him,
|
|
|
|
763
|
|
00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:05,172
|
|
and then we switched seats
|
|
and he still didn't notice.
|
|
|
|
764
|
|
00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,707
|
|
Then I had to put my face
|
|
next to the thing and go...
|
|
|
|
765
|
|
00:50:08,786 --> 00:50:10,913
|
|
Yeah, let's just pause it here.
|
|
|
|
766
|
|
00:50:10,988 --> 00:50:13,149
|
|
- Okay. Hit stop.
|
|
- Is there a pause?
|
|
|
|
767
|
|
00:50:13,223 --> 00:50:15,054
|
|
- Stop button.
|
|
- There's no pause.
|
|
|
|
768
|
|
00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:18,754
|
|
I don't know what I could've said
|
|
after that clip.
|
|
|
|
769
|
|
00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:20,558
|
|
I mean...really...
|
|
|
|
770
|
|
00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:26,129
|
|
"Where did they get this guy from?"
|
|
might've been my first comment.
|
|
|
|
771
|
|
00:50:26,203 --> 00:50:28,865
|
|
So did you ever figure out
|
|
where they got the guy from?
|
|
|
|
772
|
|
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:36,136
|
|
I understood that he was in the External
|
|
Relations Department for the WTO.
|
|
|
|
773
|
|
00:50:36,213 --> 00:50:39,080
|
|
- That's what they thought, too.
|
|
- That's what they thought, as well.
|
|
|
|
774
|
|
00:50:39,783 --> 00:50:40,943
|
|
- But...
|
|
- But...
|
|
|
|
775
|
|
00:50:41,018 --> 00:50:44,010
|
|
- ...as it happens, he wasn't.
|
|
- Yeah.
|
|
|
|
776
|
|
00:50:44,088 --> 00:50:47,057
|
|
- In fact--
|
|
- Just take one more close look.
|
|
|
|
777
|
|
00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:50,854
|
|
Wait, can we--is this reverse?
|
|
|
|
778
|
|
00:50:54,398 --> 00:50:55,888
|
|
No!
|
|
|
|
779
|
|
00:50:59,269 --> 00:51:01,533
|
|
I wasn't gonna mention the likeness.
|
|
|
|
780
|
|
00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,565
|
|
You were being very polite,
|
|
weren't you? Yeah.
|
|
|
|
781
|
|
00:51:06,577 --> 00:51:08,238
|
|
- Yeah.
|
|
- You did it as a spoof?
|
|
|
|
782
|
|
00:51:08,379 --> 00:51:10,108
|
|
- Yeah.
|
|
- Yeah. Basically...
|
|
|
|
783
|
|
00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:14,644
|
|
That's good. We weren't sure
|
|
how you would react.
|
|
|
|
784
|
|
00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:18,313
|
|
We were really hoping you wouldn't be
|
|
too offended. We were like, "Oh, no!"
|
|
|
|
785
|
|
00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:20,721
|
|
Hell, no. That's great.
|
|
That's really--
|
|
|
|
786
|
|
00:51:20,791 --> 00:51:23,624
|
|
I was wondering,
|
|
'cause I hadn't seen that guy before,
|
|
|
|
787
|
|
00:51:23,694 --> 00:51:27,095
|
|
and I did know some of the WTO
|
|
External Relations people,
|
|
|
|
788
|
|
00:51:27,164 --> 00:51:31,260
|
|
and I was thinking, "My God,
|
|
they really put up a right one this time."
|
|
|
|
789
|
|
00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,997
|
|
We wanted to talk
|
|
to Barry Coates as well
|
|
|
|
790
|
|
00:51:34,071 --> 00:51:39,008
|
|
because he has a lot of statistics
|
|
and information about globalization
|
|
|
|
791
|
|
00:51:39,076 --> 00:51:42,443
|
|
that we thought would be useful
|
|
for the lecture in Australia.
|
|
|
|
792
|
|
00:51:42,513 --> 00:51:45,004
|
|
All of the WTO agreements bar one
|
|
|
|
793
|
|
00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:48,347
|
|
are all about restricting
|
|
what governments can do.
|
|
|
|
794
|
|
00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:53,015
|
|
And so, essentially, the whole
|
|
trading system is built on the premise
|
|
|
|
795
|
|
00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:58,255
|
|
that the companies trading internationally,
|
|
investing internationally,
|
|
|
|
796
|
|
00:51:58,328 --> 00:52:03,322
|
|
are going to be preyed upon
|
|
by nasty governments.
|
|
|
|
797
|
|
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,732
|
|
And, really, what we have
|
|
|
|
798
|
|
00:52:05,803 --> 00:52:08,738
|
|
is an international system
|
|
that is entirely the reverse.
|
|
|
|
799
|
|
00:52:08,806 --> 00:52:11,001
|
|
What's got squeezed out of the system
|
|
|
|
800
|
|
00:52:11,074 --> 00:52:14,066
|
|
is democracy,
|
|
is development, is environment,
|
|
|
|
801
|
|
00:52:14,144 --> 00:52:17,136
|
|
is the kind of human values
|
|
|
|
802
|
|
00:52:17,214 --> 00:52:20,650
|
|
which really ought to be the center
|
|
of what we're trying to do.
|
|
|
|
803
|
|
00:52:20,717 --> 00:52:24,209
|
|
We don't live to trade, you know.
|
|
|
|
804
|
|
00:52:24,288 --> 00:52:27,121
|
|
We live to have decent lives.
|
|
|
|
805
|
|
00:52:27,191 --> 00:52:29,682
|
|
And that ought to be the goal
|
|
of our trade policy,
|
|
|
|
806
|
|
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,788
|
|
not maximizing trade
|
|
or getting rid of any impediments to it.
|
|
|
|
807
|
|
00:53:00,224 --> 00:53:02,351
|
|
Looks good.
|
|
I've got that.
|
|
|
|
808
|
|
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,721
|
|
Need to get the video...
|
|
|
|
809
|
|
00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,929
|
|
...and we'll be off.
|
|
|
|
810
|
|
00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:10,432
|
|
Let's see...
|
|
|
|
811
|
|
00:53:13,237 --> 00:53:16,070
|
|
One of the big reasons
|
|
why I'm up here
|
|
|
|
812
|
|
00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:20,098
|
|
is that we have the Australia gig
|
|
for the Yes Men.
|
|
|
|
813
|
|
00:53:20,177 --> 00:53:24,170
|
|
I did an animation about the recycling
|
|
of post-consumer waste
|
|
|
|
814
|
|
00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:27,979
|
|
into hamburgers and fast food.
|
|
|
|
815
|
|
00:53:28,051 --> 00:53:30,281
|
|
So...here we go.
|
|
|
|
816
|
|
00:53:30,921 --> 00:53:34,516
|
|
The answer to the world's
|
|
sustainable food future is in recycling.
|
|
|
|
817
|
|
00:53:35,826 --> 00:53:38,420
|
|
Since over half our nutrients
|
|
taken in are eliminated,
|
|
|
|
818
|
|
00:53:38,495 --> 00:53:39,894
|
|
valuable resources are at risk.
|
|
|
|
819
|
|
00:53:39,963 --> 00:53:43,364
|
|
By using post-consumer waste,
|
|
reBurger allows essential nutrients
|
|
|
|
820
|
|
00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:46,732
|
|
to be offered to developing countries
|
|
for greatly reduced cost.
|
|
|
|
821
|
|
00:53:48,038 --> 00:53:49,699
|
|
Okay...
|
|
|
|
822
|
|
00:53:54,411 --> 00:53:56,072
|
|
It gets better.
|
|
|
|
823
|
|
00:53:57,314 --> 00:53:58,576
|
|
- Wait.
|
|
- What was that?
|
|
|
|
824
|
|
00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:01,140
|
|
- Was that in outer space?
|
|
- What the hell was that?
|
|
|
|
825
|
|
00:54:01,785 --> 00:54:04,720
|
|
I think it does the job.
|
|
I think it does the job.
|
|
|
|
826
|
|
00:54:07,624 --> 00:54:11,617
|
|
We're here in New York
|
|
because Herb Alpert,
|
|
|
|
827
|
|
00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:14,687
|
|
of Herb Alpert
|
|
and the Tijuana Brass,
|
|
|
|
828
|
|
00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:16,926
|
|
gave us this award.
|
|
|
|
829
|
|
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,664
|
|
A bunch of money to do
|
|
the kind of stuff that we do.
|
|
|
|
830
|
|
00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:24,229
|
|
So we had to come here
|
|
and have dinner with him
|
|
|
|
831
|
|
00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:26,970
|
|
and get the money
|
|
and thank everybody.
|
|
|
|
832
|
|
00:54:27,044 --> 00:54:29,877
|
|
It was very nice
|
|
and very surprising.
|
|
|
|
833
|
|
00:54:29,947 --> 00:54:33,280
|
|
But we're very pleased.
|
|
I think we can say we're very pleased.
|
|
|
|
834
|
|
00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:35,845
|
|
Yeah, it was a big chunk of money.
|
|
|
|
835
|
|
00:54:35,919 --> 00:54:39,753
|
|
It's gonna bankroll a lot
|
|
of future activities like going to Australia.
|
|
|
|
836
|
|
00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,949
|
|
Yeah, so we got
|
|
this chunk of money but,
|
|
|
|
837
|
|
00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:45,358
|
|
of course, now we're
|
|
also using this opportunity
|
|
|
|
838
|
|
00:54:45,429 --> 00:54:48,091
|
|
and this hotel room here in New York
|
|
to meet up with Matt
|
|
|
|
839
|
|
00:54:48,165 --> 00:54:51,157
|
|
who's been working on the PowerPoint
|
|
presentation for Australia,
|
|
|
|
840
|
|
00:54:51,234 --> 00:54:52,826
|
|
and to meet up with Patrick
|
|
|
|
841
|
|
00:54:52,903 --> 00:54:56,498
|
|
who's been working on animations
|
|
for Australia as well.
|
|
|
|
842
|
|
00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:00,703
|
|
Fortunately we were lucky, too,
|
|
because Snafu was in town.
|
|
|
|
843
|
|
00:55:00,777 --> 00:55:03,507
|
|
He's sort of a European Yes Man.
|
|
|
|
844
|
|
00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:05,673
|
|
He's been circulating
|
|
in the European scene
|
|
|
|
845
|
|
00:55:05,749 --> 00:55:08,240
|
|
doing Yes Men-type activities.
|
|
|
|
846
|
|
00:55:08,318 --> 00:55:11,253
|
|
But it's a good thing
|
|
he's here in the States
|
|
|
|
847
|
|
00:55:11,321 --> 00:55:13,653
|
|
so he could go
|
|
to Plattsburgh with us.
|
|
|
|
848
|
|
00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:16,215
|
|
Yes, trade liberalization
|
|
is a religious undertaking.
|
|
|
|
849
|
|
00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,853
|
|
A project of faith, a crusade of sorts,
|
|
and it has been
|
|
|
|
850
|
|
00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:22,296
|
|
ever since its founders declared
|
|
that financial success comes from God
|
|
|
|
851
|
|
00:55:22,366 --> 00:55:25,358
|
|
and that wealth
|
|
is a sign of divine favor.
|
|
|
|
852
|
|
00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:29,667
|
|
Now, why is starvation a problem?
|
|
First, the facts.
|
|
|
|
853
|
|
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,834
|
|
As we all know, investment
|
|
and exports have been on the rise...
|
|
|
|
854
|
|
00:55:35,646 --> 00:55:37,307
|
|
There's some bad news.
|
|
|
|
855
|
|
00:55:37,381 --> 00:55:40,646
|
|
There's some really bad news
|
|
that came down in the last two days.
|
|
|
|
856
|
|
00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:43,984
|
|
The conference in Australia--
|
|
|
|
857
|
|
00:55:44,054 --> 00:55:46,716
|
|
the people from the conference
|
|
in Australia wrote an e-mail
|
|
|
|
858
|
|
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:51,454
|
|
saying that the conference has been
|
|
canceled because of low enrollment.
|
|
|
|
859
|
|
00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:54,190
|
|
In some ways
|
|
it's really kind of, I guess,
|
|
|
|
860
|
|
00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:56,596
|
|
a nice thing
|
|
that there was underenrollment
|
|
|
|
861
|
|
00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:58,828
|
|
because it was really
|
|
a hideous conference
|
|
|
|
862
|
|
00:55:58,902 --> 00:56:00,961
|
|
and it seemed like a really dire thing
|
|
|
|
863
|
|
00:56:01,038 --> 00:56:03,871
|
|
that people would actually
|
|
want to go to that thing.
|
|
|
|
864
|
|
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,272
|
|
And so, it's really
|
|
encouraging for humanity
|
|
|
|
865
|
|
00:56:06,343 --> 00:56:08,743
|
|
that the conference
|
|
actually has been canceled.
|
|
|
|
866
|
|
00:56:08,812 --> 00:56:12,839
|
|
But at the same time, it's really
|
|
made things difficult for us.
|
|
|
|
867
|
|
00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:14,907
|
|
So I wrote back to them
|
|
as Hildegard West
|
|
|
|
868
|
|
00:56:14,985 --> 00:56:18,648
|
|
and I asked them if they
|
|
would please set up another venue
|
|
|
|
869
|
|
00:56:18,722 --> 00:56:22,317
|
|
because Kinnithrung Sprat
|
|
is already en route to Australia.
|
|
|
|
870
|
|
00:56:22,392 --> 00:56:25,793
|
|
So right now I'm waiting to see
|
|
if they come back to us
|
|
|
|
871
|
|
00:56:25,862 --> 00:56:29,696
|
|
with a suggestion that they'll actually
|
|
have a public presentation,
|
|
|
|
872
|
|
00:56:29,766 --> 00:56:32,496
|
|
but since the conference
|
|
has been canceled,
|
|
|
|
873
|
|
00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:38,098
|
|
now the event in Plattsburgh might be
|
|
the only venue we have for this lecture.
|
|
|
|
874
|
|
00:56:38,175 --> 00:56:41,611
|
|
So it's really important now that we get
|
|
the lecture done and sort of together.
|
|
|
|
875
|
|
00:56:41,678 --> 00:56:48,413
|
|
So it's no longer a dress rehearsal.
|
|
It's actually, like, the final production.
|
|
|
|
876
|
|
00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:51,317
|
|
It's about time.
|
|
|
|
877
|
|
00:56:51,388 --> 00:56:53,481
|
|
I was so worried about your shoes.
|
|
|
|
878
|
|
00:56:53,557 --> 00:56:56,355
|
|
This guy brought
|
|
real shoes for you. Look.
|
|
|
|
879
|
|
00:56:56,426 --> 00:56:58,257
|
|
Do we have the hamburgers yet?
|
|
|
|
880
|
|
00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,121
|
|
- We have to pick them up.
|
|
- You mentioned--
|
|
|
|
881
|
|
00:57:01,198 --> 00:57:03,530
|
|
They're ordered.
|
|
Richard ordered them already.
|
|
|
|
882
|
|
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,431
|
|
- That's fantastic.
|
|
- We pick them up?
|
|
|
|
883
|
|
00:57:05,502 --> 00:57:08,562
|
|
Basically, there's this guy
|
|
named Richard Robbins who I met
|
|
|
|
884
|
|
00:57:08,638 --> 00:57:10,629
|
|
at a conference
|
|
about a month ago,
|
|
|
|
885
|
|
00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:15,508
|
|
and he has written
|
|
several books on globalization.
|
|
|
|
886
|
|
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,843
|
|
He was interested
|
|
in having the WTO
|
|
|
|
887
|
|
00:57:18,915 --> 00:57:21,315
|
|
come speak
|
|
at the Economics Department.
|
|
|
|
888
|
|
00:57:21,384 --> 00:57:24,785
|
|
Only he really knows that this
|
|
isn't really the WTO.
|
|
|
|
889
|
|
00:57:24,855 --> 00:57:27,119
|
|
Everybody else will think
|
|
that it's the WTO.
|
|
|
|
890
|
|
00:57:27,741 --> 00:57:30,437
|
|
But another good thing is
|
|
that it will be a hungry audience,
|
|
|
|
891
|
|
00:57:30,511 --> 00:57:33,503
|
|
so there's a good chance
|
|
they are going to eat those hamburgers,
|
|
|
|
892
|
|
00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,741
|
|
which we weren't sure
|
|
was actually gonna happen
|
|
|
|
893
|
|
00:57:35,816 --> 00:57:38,148
|
|
with the accountants in Australia.
|
|
|
|
894
|
|
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,513
|
|
I think, for look,
|
|
I should probably carry these in.
|
|
|
|
895
|
|
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,581
|
|
Okay. Can you do it?
|
|
|
|
896
|
|
00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:49,493
|
|
I'm thinking that you probably shouldn't
|
|
be associated with the hamburgers.
|
|
|
|
897
|
|
00:57:49,563 --> 00:57:50,825
|
|
Okay.
|
|
|
|
898
|
|
00:57:50,898 --> 00:57:53,298
|
|
I'd like to thank everybody for coming.
|
|
|
|
899
|
|
00:57:53,367 --> 00:57:59,033
|
|
You have many education choices,
|
|
and we're all grateful at the WTO
|
|
|
|
900
|
|
00:57:59,106 --> 00:58:02,075
|
|
that you have chosen
|
|
to listen to us for an hour
|
|
|
|
901
|
|
00:58:02,142 --> 00:58:05,475
|
|
and to our messages about things
|
|
that will impact everyone.
|
|
|
|
902
|
|
00:58:05,546 --> 00:58:07,878
|
|
I'd like to say that,
|
|
by joining us here,
|
|
|
|
903
|
|
00:58:07,948 --> 00:58:11,008
|
|
you're essentially embarking
|
|
with us on a mission.
|
|
|
|
904
|
|
00:58:12,052 --> 00:58:14,646
|
|
I'd like to start right at the beginning.
|
|
|
|
905
|
|
00:58:14,722 --> 00:58:16,383
|
|
As I was saying,
|
|
|
|
906
|
|
00:58:16,457 --> 00:58:20,518
|
|
trade liberalization is a project of faith;
|
|
it's a crusade.
|
|
|
|
907
|
|
00:58:20,594 --> 00:58:22,653
|
|
And in any crusade,
|
|
there are problems.
|
|
|
|
908
|
|
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,392
|
|
There are invading armies,
|
|
there are big blockades.
|
|
|
|
909
|
|
00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,301
|
|
And one of the problems
|
|
that we run into in this crusade
|
|
|
|
910
|
|
00:58:30,370 --> 00:58:32,065
|
|
is starvation in the Third World.
|
|
|
|
911
|
|
00:58:32,139 --> 00:58:35,472
|
|
You may recognize that symbol
|
|
from those green bins you see...
|
|
|
|
912
|
|
00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:37,737
|
|
where cans, bottles, blah, blah.
|
|
|
|
913
|
|
00:58:37,811 --> 00:58:41,645
|
|
The kind of recycling I'm talking about
|
|
that we have developed at the WTO
|
|
|
|
914
|
|
00:58:41,715 --> 00:58:46,778
|
|
is...not--not really
|
|
this irrelevant kind of recycling
|
|
|
|
915
|
|
00:58:46,854 --> 00:58:50,017
|
|
where the target--
|
|
individual consumers like you and me
|
|
|
|
916
|
|
00:58:50,090 --> 00:58:55,585
|
|
or of non-edible industrial products--
|
|
is such a tiny part of the problem.
|
|
|
|
917
|
|
00:58:55,662 --> 00:59:00,861
|
|
Rather, we're talking about really
|
|
recycling what counts where it counts.
|
|
|
|
918
|
|
00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:03,095
|
|
To begin to understand
|
|
the theory behind this,
|
|
|
|
919
|
|
00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:06,867
|
|
you must first realize that the human body
|
|
is not really very efficient.
|
|
|
|
920
|
|
00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:11,434
|
|
When ingesting heavy foods,
|
|
only about 20% of the nutrients
|
|
|
|
921
|
|
00:59:11,512 --> 00:59:14,276
|
|
are absorbed
|
|
by the alimentary passageway
|
|
|
|
922
|
|
00:59:14,348 --> 00:59:18,341
|
|
while the other 80% finds itself
|
|
expelled in post-consumer byproducts.
|
|
|
|
923
|
|
00:59:18,418 --> 00:59:19,908
|
|
Already 20 years ago,
|
|
|
|
924
|
|
00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:23,821
|
|
NASA scientists began
|
|
to tap into this nutritional gold mine
|
|
|
|
925
|
|
00:59:23,891 --> 00:59:27,383
|
|
by developing filters that could
|
|
transform their astronauts' waste
|
|
|
|
926
|
|
00:59:27,461 --> 00:59:31,591
|
|
into healthy, hygienic,
|
|
and even delicious food once again.
|
|
|
|
927
|
|
00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:33,326
|
|
With the use of this technology,
|
|
|
|
928
|
|
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,393
|
|
a single hamburger, for example,
|
|
can be eaten more than ten times,
|
|
|
|
929
|
|
00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:42,374
|
|
providing a cumulative total
|
|
of three times the nutritional value
|
|
|
|
930
|
|
00:59:42,442 --> 00:59:44,603
|
|
of the original fresh hamburger.
|
|
|
|
931
|
|
00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:48,478
|
|
Now, again, a certain amount
|
|
of cultural openness is required
|
|
|
|
932
|
|
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:51,382
|
|
as we investigate solutions.
|
|
|
|
933
|
|
00:59:51,451 --> 00:59:53,476
|
|
And I'd love to take any questions.
|
|
|
|
934
|
|
00:59:53,554 --> 00:59:54,612
|
|
Yes, you've been--
|
|
|
|
935
|
|
00:59:54,688 --> 00:59:56,519
|
|
Coming from a Third World country,
|
|
|
|
936
|
|
00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,424
|
|
I found most of what you said
|
|
pretty offensive.
|
|
|
|
937
|
|
01:00:00,494 --> 01:00:05,329
|
|
It's as if everyone is equal,
|
|
but some are more equal than others.
|
|
|
|
938
|
|
01:00:05,399 --> 01:00:07,390
|
|
And...who is to say
|
|
|
|
939
|
|
01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,664
|
|
whether people in the Third World
|
|
want a burger?
|
|
|
|
940
|
|
01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,900
|
|
You know, I, in my heart,
|
|
sometimes find it to agree
|
|
|
|
941
|
|
01:00:13,974 --> 01:00:17,637
|
|
that cultures deserve
|
|
an equal consideration
|
|
|
|
942
|
|
01:00:17,711 --> 01:00:19,645
|
|
perhaps to develop on their own terms,
|
|
|
|
943
|
|
01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:21,044
|
|
but we're different.
|
|
|
|
944
|
|
01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,776
|
|
We're culturally different.
|
|
We're rich, they're poor.
|
|
|
|
945
|
|
01:00:23,851 --> 01:00:26,319
|
|
This is the most humane solution
|
|
we can come up with
|
|
|
|
946
|
|
01:00:26,386 --> 01:00:28,081
|
|
that stays within the market logic.
|
|
|
|
947
|
|
01:00:28,155 --> 01:00:31,818
|
|
If it's all right, I could answer
|
|
a portion of that question, as well.
|
|
|
|
948
|
|
01:00:31,892 --> 01:00:35,919
|
|
And this answers the question
|
|
about desire for the product
|
|
|
|
949
|
|
01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:39,329
|
|
because the biggest growth areas
|
|
are the developing world.
|
|
|
|
950
|
|
01:00:39,399 --> 01:00:43,392
|
|
And so, in fact,
|
|
people do want the product.
|
|
|
|
951
|
|
01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:48,635
|
|
We do have a kind of video presentation
|
|
about this that I came prepared to show.
|
|
|
|
952
|
|
01:00:48,709 --> 01:00:53,339
|
|
It's not--the program isn't actually
|
|
completely ready yet.
|
|
|
|
953
|
|
01:00:55,549 --> 01:01:00,953
|
|
So, as you can see here,
|
|
there's a consumer in the First World
|
|
|
|
954
|
|
01:01:01,021 --> 01:01:04,684
|
|
entering McDonald's
|
|
and consuming a hamburger.
|
|
|
|
955
|
|
01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:11,023
|
|
And, afterward, this is the process
|
|
we're all familiar with.
|
|
|
|
956
|
|
01:01:11,098 --> 01:01:13,225
|
|
I don't need
|
|
to explain it to anyone.
|
|
|
|
957
|
|
01:01:15,269 --> 01:01:17,430
|
|
But...
|
|
|
|
958
|
|
01:01:17,504 --> 01:01:20,029
|
|
You see, it's rendered out
|
|
in this style
|
|
|
|
959
|
|
01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:24,476
|
|
because studies have shown
|
|
that consumers are most responsive
|
|
|
|
960
|
|
01:01:24,544 --> 01:01:28,640
|
|
to 3-D animation right now,
|
|
particularly in developing cultures.
|
|
|
|
961
|
|
01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:32,779
|
|
So, as you can see,
|
|
it goes through a piping system,
|
|
|
|
962
|
|
01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,514
|
|
and this isn't unusual.
|
|
|
|
963
|
|
01:01:34,588 --> 01:01:38,080
|
|
We do this for oil.
|
|
We could do this for food, as well.
|
|
|
|
964
|
|
01:01:38,158 --> 01:01:42,288
|
|
And, as you can see,
|
|
it goes back up through the plumbing...
|
|
|
|
965
|
|
01:01:42,362 --> 01:01:45,354
|
|
and emerges in a McDonald's.
|
|
|
|
966
|
|
01:01:45,432 --> 01:01:49,095
|
|
Now, the part of this video that isn't
|
|
completed yet is the filtering process.
|
|
|
|
967
|
|
01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:53,663
|
|
There will be
|
|
a very well-rendered filtering...
|
|
|
|
968
|
|
01:02:04,518 --> 01:02:08,079
|
|
As you can see--this might answer
|
|
somebody's question from before,
|
|
|
|
969
|
|
01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,715
|
|
but at the McDonald's
|
|
in a developing country
|
|
|
|
970
|
|
01:02:10,791 --> 01:02:12,782
|
|
and, in fact,
|
|
in this country as well,
|
|
|
|
971
|
|
01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:15,350
|
|
you would be able to choose--
|
|
the number one, number two,
|
|
|
|
972
|
|
01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,294
|
|
number three,
|
|
number four, number five
|
|
|
|
973
|
|
01:02:17,364 --> 01:02:19,992
|
|
would no longer refer
|
|
to combinations of food,
|
|
|
|
974
|
|
01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:23,628
|
|
but rather just the number of times
|
|
the product had been recycled.
|
|
|
|
975
|
|
01:02:25,472 --> 01:02:29,067
|
|
We're lucky to be able to partner with
|
|
the World Trade Organization which,
|
|
|
|
976
|
|
01:02:29,142 --> 01:02:31,042
|
|
you know, has slightly different goals.
|
|
|
|
977
|
|
01:02:31,111 --> 01:02:34,103
|
|
Of course, McDonald's goals
|
|
are to profit and grow,
|
|
|
|
978
|
|
01:02:34,181 --> 01:02:35,842
|
|
and we hope that we can provide
|
|
|
|
979
|
|
01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:38,407
|
|
a nutritious and tasty product
|
|
in the process.
|
|
|
|
980
|
|
01:02:38,485 --> 01:02:42,649
|
|
Our goals are to help McDonald's profit
|
|
and grow, and all other corporations.
|
|
|
|
981
|
|
01:02:42,723 --> 01:02:45,556
|
|
I think you guys--
|
|
like, the WTO--
|
|
|
|
982
|
|
01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:49,686
|
|
is kind of lacking kind of, like,
|
|
a human element, you know?
|
|
|
|
983
|
|
01:02:49,763 --> 01:02:55,633
|
|
Like...if you saw--
|
|
have you ever seen starving people?
|
|
|
|
984
|
|
01:02:55,702 --> 01:02:57,533
|
|
In pictures. Yes.
|
|
|
|
985
|
|
01:02:58,405 --> 01:03:01,465
|
|
So, tell me, if you saw
|
|
somebody starving to death,
|
|
|
|
986
|
|
01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,702
|
|
you would probably think a lot--
|
|
|
|
987
|
|
01:03:03,777 --> 01:03:08,976
|
|
like, that would kind of hit you
|
|
in a sensitive place to say,
|
|
|
|
988
|
|
01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:13,884
|
|
"Oh, maybe markets and money
|
|
and this and that don't really mean as much,
|
|
|
|
989
|
|
01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:16,946
|
|
and, actually, feeding people
|
|
means a little bit more."
|
|
|
|
990
|
|
01:03:17,024 --> 01:03:19,959
|
|
Well, it is true that there's
|
|
a personal side of it that--
|
|
|
|
991
|
|
01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,188
|
|
I have to say, in the WTO
|
|
|
|
992
|
|
01:03:22,262 --> 01:03:25,925
|
|
there are questions that we have
|
|
about this as human beings,
|
|
|
|
993
|
|
01:03:25,999 --> 01:03:28,797
|
|
but we're not as subject--
|
|
|
|
994
|
|
01:03:28,869 --> 01:03:30,860
|
|
we have a kind
|
|
of firmer grasp on theory.
|
|
|
|
995
|
|
01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:33,770
|
|
We are able, fortunately,
|
|
|
|
996
|
|
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,674
|
|
to simply direct world trade
|
|
in a much more theoretical way...
|
|
|
|
997
|
|
01:03:37,744 --> 01:03:41,407
|
|
in collaboration with our colleagues
|
|
at the largest corporations.
|
|
|
|
998
|
|
01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:47,317
|
|
So...you know. Yes, probably,
|
|
if I went to these countries,
|
|
|
|
999
|
|
01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:53,121
|
|
I'd feel...l'd think about things
|
|
a little differently, perhaps.
|
|
|
|
1000
|
|
01:03:53,193 --> 01:03:56,685
|
|
But, at the same time, I don't think
|
|
I would forget all my schooling.
|
|
|
|
1001
|
|
01:03:56,763 --> 01:03:59,596
|
|
I don't think I would forget
|
|
all these theories and so on.
|
|
|
|
1002
|
|
01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:02,999
|
|
So, perhaps one day I'll do that.
|
|
|
|
1003
|
|
01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:05,368
|
|
This is a money-maker, correct?
|
|
|
|
1004
|
|
01:04:05,439 --> 01:04:09,307
|
|
Yes. Well, it's a money-maker,
|
|
starvation-solver, sure.
|
|
|
|
1005
|
|
01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:12,812
|
|
How much did McDonald's pay you to
|
|
come here and speak this garbage to us?
|
|
|
|
1006
|
|
01:04:12,879 --> 01:04:15,973
|
|
Did I see a mouse with an ear
|
|
growing out of its back?
|
|
|
|
1007
|
|
01:04:16,049 --> 01:04:19,382
|
|
How are you going to get around
|
|
the cultural and legal implications
|
|
|
|
1008
|
|
01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,354
|
|
of cannibalism and basically
|
|
asking us to recycle shit?
|
|
|
|
1009
|
|
01:04:51,151 --> 01:04:55,178
|
|
The reality is that we already
|
|
treat people in the Third World
|
|
|
|
1010
|
|
01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,723
|
|
far worse than we treat
|
|
our domestic animals.
|
|
|
|
1011
|
|
01:04:57,791 --> 01:05:02,125
|
|
That's--that's not saying it's right.
|
|
It's just saying that's the reality.
|
|
|
|
1012
|
|
01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,902
|
|
Well, after thinking about it
|
|
for a little while,
|
|
|
|
1013
|
|
01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,306
|
|
it seems the Plattsburgh lecture
|
|
just went great,
|
|
|
|
1014
|
|
01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:20,210
|
|
and it went exactly the way we
|
|
originally expected these lectures to work,
|
|
|
|
1015
|
|
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,545
|
|
which is that, at a certain point,
|
|
it was like a light bulb's going off
|
|
|
|
1016
|
|
01:05:23,617 --> 01:05:26,017
|
|
in the heads of the different people
|
|
in the audience,
|
|
|
|
1017
|
|
01:05:26,086 --> 01:05:29,681
|
|
and they were realizing that it
|
|
was just too crazy to be real,
|
|
|
|
1018
|
|
01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:31,917
|
|
and yet it was
|
|
sort of based in reality.
|
|
|
|
1019
|
|
01:05:31,992 --> 01:05:35,428
|
|
So, you know,
|
|
they started throwing globes at us,
|
|
|
|
1020
|
|
01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:37,759
|
|
they got angry,
|
|
they got frustrated.
|
|
|
|
1021
|
|
01:05:37,831 --> 01:05:40,095
|
|
It worked exactly
|
|
like we thought it would.
|
|
|
|
1022
|
|
01:05:43,837 --> 01:05:45,270
|
|
They don't ask if you believe in it.
|
|
|
|
1023
|
|
01:05:45,338 --> 01:05:48,432
|
|
You don't get to vote
|
|
on World Trade Organization treaties.
|
|
|
|
1024
|
|
01:05:48,508 --> 01:05:51,102
|
|
They don't let you vote on it.
|
|
They don't give you a say.
|
|
|
|
1025
|
|
01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:54,079
|
|
They let you listen
|
|
to the one-sided propaganda.
|
|
|
|
1026
|
|
01:05:54,147 --> 01:05:57,639
|
|
Name me a single columnist in America
|
|
who doesn't stand up and cheer
|
|
|
|
1027
|
|
01:05:57,717 --> 01:05:59,878
|
|
under the banner
|
|
of so-called free trade.
|
|
|
|
1028
|
|
01:05:59,953 --> 01:06:01,511
|
|
There's no public discussion,
|
|
|
|
1029
|
|
01:06:01,588 --> 01:06:05,422
|
|
there's no dissent
|
|
in any of the political parties.
|
|
|
|
1030
|
|
01:06:05,492 --> 01:06:08,655
|
|
There's no debate,
|
|
there's no discussion, there's no vote.
|
|
|
|
1031
|
|
01:06:08,728 --> 01:06:13,665
|
|
In fact, the only nation
|
|
which has called for a vote is Brazil,
|
|
|
|
1032
|
|
01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:18,397
|
|
which is saying that it
|
|
will not sign any more trade treaties
|
|
|
|
1033
|
|
01:06:18,471 --> 01:06:20,598
|
|
without a plebiscite of its people.
|
|
|
|
1034
|
|
01:06:20,674 --> 01:06:24,337
|
|
And the world trade barons
|
|
are losing their damn minds
|
|
|
|
1035
|
|
01:06:24,411 --> 01:06:29,246
|
|
trying to prevent this type of democracy
|
|
from spreading planet-wide,
|
|
|
|
1036
|
|
01:06:29,316 --> 01:06:32,979
|
|
'cause once people know what this stuff
|
|
is about and get to vote on it,
|
|
|
|
1037
|
|
01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,783
|
|
no one's gonna vote themselves
|
|
into poverty.
|
|
|
|
1038
|
|
01:06:39,826 --> 01:06:42,488
|
|
Here we go.
|
|
"Australia country code."
|
|
|
|
1039
|
|
01:06:45,332 --> 01:06:47,129
|
|
Australia, 61.
|
|
It's 61.
|
|
|
|
1040
|
|
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,360
|
|
Sixty-one.
|
|
|
|
1041
|
|
01:06:53,473 --> 01:06:57,466
|
|
Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat
|
|
from the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1042
|
|
01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,206
|
|
- <i>Hello. how are you?</i>
|
|
- Good, thanks. How are you?
|
|
|
|
1043
|
|
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,443
|
|
<i>- Where are you now?</i>
|
|
- I'm in New York at the moment.
|
|
|
|
1044
|
|
01:07:03,516 --> 01:07:05,677
|
|
<i>- In New York, are you?</i>
|
|
- Yes.
|
|
|
|
1045
|
|
01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:11,156
|
|
Kinnithrung Sprat just called the person
|
|
who's coordinating Sprat's visit.
|
|
|
|
1046
|
|
01:07:11,224 --> 01:07:15,160
|
|
I'm due in Hong Kong
|
|
the week after this,
|
|
|
|
1047
|
|
01:07:15,228 --> 01:07:17,219
|
|
and that date is firm,
|
|
|
|
1048
|
|
01:07:17,297 --> 01:07:22,030
|
|
but my travel to Australia
|
|
is as yet not firm. Yeah.
|
|
|
|
1049
|
|
01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,265
|
|
She's actually, it turns out,
|
|
been e-mailing all these people
|
|
|
|
1050
|
|
01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:27,670
|
|
and basically calling journalists
|
|
|
|
1051
|
|
01:07:27,741 --> 01:07:29,936
|
|
and getting people
|
|
to attend his lecture.
|
|
|
|
1052
|
|
01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:34,174
|
|
She fully expects him to attend because
|
|
she had spoken to Hildegard West,
|
|
|
|
1053
|
|
01:07:34,247 --> 01:07:37,375
|
|
Sprat's assistant,
|
|
and Hildegard West had told her
|
|
|
|
1054
|
|
01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:40,510
|
|
that everything was on
|
|
and Sprat was definitely going.
|
|
|
|
1055
|
|
01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:43,078
|
|
So now we've just decided
|
|
we really have to go
|
|
|
|
1056
|
|
01:07:43,156 --> 01:07:46,592
|
|
to honor this arrangement
|
|
with Australia.
|
|
|
|
1057
|
|
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,652
|
|
So it's back on now
|
|
after we totally thought it was off.
|
|
|
|
1058
|
|
01:07:49,729 --> 01:07:53,790
|
|
And instead of giving this lecture that
|
|
we've been planning for, like, nine months,
|
|
|
|
1059
|
|
01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:57,803
|
|
we're gonna, like, you know,
|
|
just disband the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1060
|
|
01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,503
|
|
Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes
|
|
that actually are reasonable?
|
|
|
|
1061
|
|
01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:06,909
|
|
They just don't look like dress shoes.
|
|
They look like wrestling shoes.
|
|
|
|
1062
|
|
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,414
|
|
There are no shoes here
|
|
for you. Never mind.
|
|
|
|
1063
|
|
01:08:09,482 --> 01:08:11,450
|
|
No. Shoes are out.
|
|
|
|
1064
|
|
01:08:11,518 --> 01:08:12,507
|
|
A tie.
|
|
|
|
1065
|
|
01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:14,915
|
|
Around, then...
|
|
|
|
1066
|
|
01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:18,580
|
|
Wait--did you try this?
|
|
|
|
1067
|
|
01:08:20,193 --> 01:08:21,455
|
|
Yeah.
|
|
|
|
1068
|
|
01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:27,627
|
|
I did a set of these with inkjet,
|
|
and they just don't look as real.
|
|
|
|
1069
|
|
01:08:27,701 --> 01:08:29,635
|
|
Something about them.
|
|
They look...
|
|
|
|
1070
|
|
01:08:29,703 --> 01:08:31,637
|
|
- These look perfect.
|
|
- ...kind of handmade.
|
|
|
|
1071
|
|
01:08:32,305 --> 01:08:34,136
|
|
I printed off some letterhead for you.
|
|
|
|
1072
|
|
01:08:34,207 --> 01:08:35,868
|
|
- Nice.
|
|
- You guys already saw that.
|
|
|
|
1073
|
|
01:08:35,942 --> 01:08:38,308
|
|
- And I just kept it real simple...
|
|
- It's perfect.
|
|
|
|
1074
|
|
01:08:38,378 --> 01:08:40,778
|
|
...so that it would show up well
|
|
on the fax.
|
|
|
|
1075
|
|
01:08:41,748 --> 01:08:44,046
|
|
That is the most ridiculous photo.
|
|
|
|
1076
|
|
01:08:44,117 --> 01:08:48,349
|
|
There's something really weird
|
|
about this maniacal public relations guy.
|
|
|
|
1077
|
|
01:08:48,421 --> 01:08:51,322
|
|
- A little magnetic strip on the back.
|
|
- A logo of the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1078
|
|
01:08:51,391 --> 01:08:52,585
|
|
Really beautiful.
|
|
|
|
1079
|
|
01:08:54,327 --> 01:08:57,490
|
|
You know what I did?
|
|
I went to Google...
|
|
|
|
1080
|
|
01:08:57,564 --> 01:09:02,399
|
|
and I went to Google image search
|
|
and I typed in, "I.D. card."
|
|
|
|
1081
|
|
01:09:02,469 --> 01:09:05,961
|
|
And you wouldn't believe
|
|
the number of pictures of I.D. cards
|
|
|
|
1082
|
|
01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,870
|
|
that show up on the Web.
|
|
|
|
1083
|
|
01:09:07,941 --> 01:09:10,808
|
|
And I just went through
|
|
and took a little bit from each one.
|
|
|
|
1084
|
|
01:09:10,877 --> 01:09:14,040
|
|
I said, "All right, this one's got
|
|
a little bar code at the bottom,
|
|
|
|
1085
|
|
01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:16,344
|
|
and this one uses
|
|
the logo over here."
|
|
|
|
1086
|
|
01:09:16,416 --> 01:09:18,407
|
|
That is so nice.
|
|
|
|
1087
|
|
01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:32,190
|
|
- I know.
|
|
- Wow. Airplane.
|
|
|
|
1088
|
|
01:09:34,534 --> 01:09:36,229
|
|
Where's the rental car area?
|
|
|
|
1089
|
|
01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,313
|
|
No, I don't know.
|
|
I'm just really nervous
|
|
|
|
1090
|
|
01:09:58,391 --> 01:10:01,883
|
|
'cause this feels different from all
|
|
the other things that we've done.
|
|
|
|
1091
|
|
01:10:01,961 --> 01:10:08,696
|
|
It's not like the same kind of play,
|
|
fun, crazy, weird, impossible stuff.
|
|
|
|
1092
|
|
01:10:08,768 --> 01:10:10,258
|
|
This is sincere, you know.
|
|
|
|
1093
|
|
01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,203
|
|
It's about replacing the WTO
|
|
with something better.
|
|
|
|
1094
|
|
01:10:13,273 --> 01:10:16,333
|
|
- Do you think that satire is more fun?
|
|
- Yeah, definitely.
|
|
|
|
1095
|
|
01:10:16,409 --> 01:10:19,640
|
|
I got this feeling that it's--
|
|
for some reason--
|
|
|
|
1096
|
|
01:10:19,712 --> 01:10:22,203
|
|
maybe it's less fun to be sincere.
|
|
|
|
1097
|
|
01:10:22,282 --> 01:10:24,273
|
|
But it is less fun, isn't it?
|
|
|
|
1098
|
|
01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,181
|
|
In a way, yeah.
|
|
|
|
1099
|
|
01:10:26,252 --> 01:10:31,849
|
|
Maybe it's more fun
|
|
to be satirical than serious.
|
|
|
|
1100
|
|
01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:33,085
|
|
Yeah.
|
|
|
|
1101
|
|
01:10:37,697 --> 01:10:39,790
|
|
It's about 9:00 in the morning,
|
|
|
|
1102
|
|
01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,426
|
|
and this is the big day
|
|
for Kinnithrung Sprat
|
|
|
|
1103
|
|
01:10:42,502 --> 01:10:44,402
|
|
to go talk to CPA Australia
|
|
|
|
1104
|
|
01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,632
|
|
and close down the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1105
|
|
01:10:46,706 --> 01:10:51,905
|
|
It's kind of an exciting day for us
|
|
'cause we finally get to shut it down.
|
|
|
|
1106
|
|
01:11:06,226 --> 01:11:10,720
|
|
I'm writing the local phone number
|
|
for this cell phone on the business cards.
|
|
|
|
1107
|
|
01:11:10,797 --> 01:11:13,732
|
|
So if we give these to journalists
|
|
or anybody else
|
|
|
|
1108
|
|
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,533
|
|
who wants to contact Mr. Sprat--they'll be
|
|
able to do it in the next couple days.
|
|
|
|
1109
|
|
01:11:20,974 --> 01:11:23,135
|
|
We have to leave
|
|
in ten minutes, though.
|
|
|
|
1110
|
|
01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:24,642
|
|
I know.
|
|
|
|
1111
|
|
01:11:24,711 --> 01:11:27,544
|
|
I'm just gonna do
|
|
as little as possible.
|
|
|
|
1112
|
|
01:11:30,683 --> 01:11:34,175
|
|
Okay, let's just go by there.
|
|
We have some time yet.
|
|
|
|
1113
|
|
01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:36,586
|
|
Let's just keep walking.
|
|
Just walk straight.
|
|
|
|
1114
|
|
01:11:36,723 --> 01:11:40,716
|
|
Don't look.
|
|
Don't turn left. Don't...
|
|
|
|
1115
|
|
01:11:40,793 --> 01:11:43,819
|
|
Hey, no. Don't.
|
|
Don't do that.
|
|
|
|
1116
|
|
01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:46,825
|
|
Answer it.
|
|
|
|
1117
|
|
01:11:47,767 --> 01:11:49,598
|
|
Hello, Michael Bonanno here.
|
|
|
|
1118
|
|
01:11:52,505 --> 01:11:54,063
|
|
Hi, Jane. How are you?
|
|
|
|
1119
|
|
01:11:55,675 --> 01:11:59,111
|
|
All right, then. I guess
|
|
we'll see you in just a few minutes.
|
|
|
|
1120
|
|
01:11:59,178 --> 01:12:01,510
|
|
And we just come up
|
|
to level three, then?
|
|
|
|
1121
|
|
01:12:01,581 --> 01:12:04,846
|
|
Great. Thank you very much.
|
|
All right. Bye-bye.
|
|
|
|
1122
|
|
01:12:04,918 --> 01:12:06,010
|
|
Run!
|
|
|
|
1123
|
|
01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,687
|
|
Oh, wait. Shit!
|
|
This is the building!
|
|
|
|
1124
|
|
01:12:13,192 --> 01:12:14,887
|
|
- Thank you for coming.
|
|
- Thank you for having us.
|
|
|
|
1125
|
|
01:12:14,961 --> 01:12:18,692
|
|
Sorry for the confusion
|
|
and problems and everything else.
|
|
|
|
1126
|
|
01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,926
|
|
It's to be expected
|
|
these days, I think.
|
|
|
|
1127
|
|
01:12:21,901 --> 01:12:26,167
|
|
No. Thanks for going out of your way
|
|
to arrange this. This is really terrific.
|
|
|
|
1128
|
|
01:12:31,811 --> 01:12:34,336
|
|
Thank you all for coming.
|
|
I'd like to...
|
|
|
|
1129
|
|
01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:38,983
|
|
I'd like to thank the organizers
|
|
for going out of their way
|
|
|
|
1130
|
|
01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:43,853
|
|
to create this panel,
|
|
this luncheon,
|
|
|
|
1131
|
|
01:12:43,923 --> 01:12:48,019
|
|
in the face of some odds--the conference
|
|
having been canceled, of course.
|
|
|
|
1132
|
|
01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:50,756
|
|
And I'd especially like to begin
|
|
|
|
1133
|
|
01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,664
|
|
by apologizing for a rather sudden
|
|
change in the program,
|
|
|
|
1134
|
|
01:12:54,734 --> 01:13:01,003
|
|
consequent upon a rather dramatic
|
|
development in Geneva yesterday.
|
|
|
|
1135
|
|
01:13:01,074 --> 01:13:04,908
|
|
I originally intended to transmit today
|
|
an upbeat report
|
|
|
|
1136
|
|
01:13:04,978 --> 01:13:09,915
|
|
on some new technologies that affect
|
|
agribusiness in a global sense.
|
|
|
|
1137
|
|
01:13:09,983 --> 01:13:14,920
|
|
Instead, I find myself the messenger
|
|
of some rather disturbing news.
|
|
|
|
1138
|
|
01:13:14,988 --> 01:13:17,718
|
|
The WTO will be issuing
|
|
a public statement
|
|
|
|
1139
|
|
01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:19,985
|
|
in detail by the end of the week.
|
|
|
|
1140
|
|
01:13:20,059 --> 01:13:22,050
|
|
But the die has been cast.
|
|
|
|
1141
|
|
01:13:22,128 --> 01:13:24,289
|
|
As of September 2002,
|
|
|
|
1142
|
|
01:13:24,364 --> 01:13:26,958
|
|
having seen the effects of policies
|
|
|
|
1143
|
|
01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:30,560
|
|
whose only intent was to bring
|
|
greater prosperity and peace,
|
|
|
|
1144
|
|
01:13:30,637 --> 01:13:35,438
|
|
the World Trade Organization,
|
|
in its present form, will cease to exist.
|
|
|
|
1145
|
|
01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,866
|
|
Over the next two years,
|
|
|
|
1146
|
|
01:13:37,944 --> 01:13:43,007
|
|
we at the WTO will endeavor to re-found
|
|
our organization along different lines,
|
|
|
|
1147
|
|
01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:47,143
|
|
based in a different understanding
|
|
of the purposes of world trade.
|
|
|
|
1148
|
|
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,178
|
|
The new organization will have
|
|
as its foundation and basis
|
|
|
|
1149
|
|
01:13:51,257 --> 01:13:55,091
|
|
the United Nations'
|
|
Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
|
|
|
|
1150
|
|
01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:59,564
|
|
upon which we feel
|
|
we can make a good foundation
|
|
|
|
1151
|
|
01:13:59,632 --> 01:14:02,294
|
|
to ensuring that the organization
|
|
will have human
|
|
|
|
1152
|
|
01:14:02,368 --> 01:14:05,303
|
|
rather than business interests
|
|
as its bottom line.
|
|
|
|
1153
|
|
01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,202
|
|
My reaction was one of total surprise.
|
|
|
|
1154
|
|
01:14:07,273 --> 01:14:09,104
|
|
We were expecting
|
|
a speech more based
|
|
|
|
1155
|
|
01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:13,111
|
|
on what the World Trade Organization
|
|
does in its relation to Australian trade.
|
|
|
|
1156
|
|
01:14:13,179 --> 01:14:16,171
|
|
It sort of blew me out of the water
|
|
when the announcement was made
|
|
|
|
1157
|
|
01:14:16,249 --> 01:14:19,980
|
|
that the World Trade Organization
|
|
is significantly reinventing itself
|
|
|
|
1158
|
|
01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:25,787
|
|
to focus on issues relating to people
|
|
as opposed to economics--
|
|
|
|
1159
|
|
01:14:25,858 --> 01:14:28,691
|
|
something that hopefully could be
|
|
of significant benefit
|
|
|
|
1160
|
|
01:14:28,761 --> 01:14:33,095
|
|
to the poor and needy throughout
|
|
the world in all developing countries.
|
|
|
|
1161
|
|
01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:37,330
|
|
The U.N. estimates that poor countries--
|
|
the poorest countries in the world--
|
|
|
|
1162
|
|
01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:43,069
|
|
lose approximately $2 billion a day
|
|
because of unjust trade rules,
|
|
|
|
1163
|
|
01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:46,407
|
|
many of them instituted
|
|
by our own organization.
|
|
|
|
1164
|
|
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,743
|
|
And this is 14 times the amount
|
|
|
|
1165
|
|
01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:51,545
|
|
that they receive in aid
|
|
from developed countries.
|
|
|
|
1166
|
|
01:14:52,552 --> 01:14:57,216
|
|
I thought the speech itself was compelling
|
|
in terms of its information.
|
|
|
|
1167
|
|
01:14:57,290 --> 01:15:02,887
|
|
I was astounded to find that they're
|
|
actually gonna dismantle the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1168
|
|
01:15:02,962 --> 01:15:07,695
|
|
I was also amazed to see that there was
|
|
a mission that perhaps had failed.
|
|
|
|
1169
|
|
01:15:07,767 --> 01:15:11,100
|
|
It's gonna have a huge effect
|
|
on international business
|
|
|
|
1170
|
|
01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:14,333
|
|
and particularly for us
|
|
as an organization, I feel.
|
|
|
|
1171
|
|
01:15:14,407 --> 01:15:18,138
|
|
The hardest thing, I find,
|
|
will be the balance that, let's say,
|
|
|
|
1172
|
|
01:15:18,211 --> 01:15:20,736
|
|
the U.S., E.U., and Japan--
|
|
|
|
1173
|
|
01:15:20,813 --> 01:15:24,544
|
|
in terms of being major components
|
|
of the world economy--
|
|
|
|
1174
|
|
01:15:24,617 --> 01:15:28,451
|
|
the effect--will they really change
|
|
in terms of this new organization,
|
|
|
|
1175
|
|
01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,183
|
|
and will there actually
|
|
be genuine change
|
|
|
|
1176
|
|
01:15:31,257 --> 01:15:34,590
|
|
and perhaps a benefit
|
|
to the world's poorest countries?
|
|
|
|
1177
|
|
01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,754
|
|
I must admit I'm a cynic
|
|
with regards to that occurring.
|
|
|
|
1178
|
|
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,095
|
|
Liberalization--
|
|
the process of liberalization
|
|
|
|
1179
|
|
01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,226
|
|
often enables
|
|
the knowledge of the poor
|
|
|
|
1180
|
|
01:15:43,302 --> 01:15:47,170
|
|
to be converted into the property
|
|
of global corporations.
|
|
|
|
1181
|
|
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,607
|
|
Specific statistics are rather shocking.
|
|
|
|
1182
|
|
01:15:50,676 --> 01:15:59,277
|
|
Out of 26,000 patents
|
|
applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001,
|
|
|
|
1183
|
|
01:15:59,352 --> 01:16:03,186
|
|
only 31 were from residents of Africa.
|
|
|
|
1184
|
|
01:16:03,256 --> 01:16:06,089
|
|
The rest were from residents
|
|
of first world countries.
|
|
|
|
1185
|
|
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,220
|
|
31 out of 26,000 patent applications.
|
|
|
|
1186
|
|
01:16:10,296 --> 01:16:11,957
|
|
It wasn't what I was expecting.
|
|
|
|
1187
|
|
01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,022
|
|
I was expecting something
|
|
on agribusiness
|
|
|
|
1188
|
|
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,591
|
|
and what
|
|
the World Trade Organization does.
|
|
|
|
1189
|
|
01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:20,264
|
|
But I'd have to say
|
|
I believe it's fairly positive
|
|
|
|
1190
|
|
01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:24,070
|
|
because I think that,
|
|
as the gentleman said,
|
|
|
|
1191
|
|
01:16:24,143 --> 01:16:27,510
|
|
the strong are getting stronger,
|
|
and the weak are getting weaker.
|
|
|
|
1192
|
|
01:16:27,580 --> 01:16:29,411
|
|
And you can't let that keep on going.
|
|
|
|
1193
|
|
01:16:29,482 --> 01:16:31,313
|
|
Even we notice it here in Australia
|
|
|
|
1194
|
|
01:16:31,384 --> 01:16:34,979
|
|
with some of the trade arrangements
|
|
that are made.
|
|
|
|
1195
|
|
01:16:35,054 --> 01:16:37,318
|
|
If you're powerful,
|
|
you can get whatever you like,
|
|
|
|
1196
|
|
01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:39,221
|
|
and if you're not, you can't.
|
|
|
|
1197
|
|
01:16:39,292 --> 01:16:42,784
|
|
The world, with the population we've got,
|
|
can't keep going that way.
|
|
|
|
1198
|
|
01:16:42,862 --> 01:16:44,454
|
|
So I think it was fairly positive,
|
|
|
|
1199
|
|
01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,192
|
|
and I think it's a very brave decision
|
|
by an organization
|
|
|
|
1200
|
|
01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,758
|
|
to admit that they've been going down
|
|
the wrong track and dissolve themselves
|
|
|
|
1201
|
|
01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:54,637
|
|
and start to look for something different.
|
|
And I think it's fantastic.
|
|
|
|
1202
|
|
01:16:54,707 --> 01:16:57,039
|
|
Disparity is growing
|
|
between rich and poor.
|
|
|
|
1203
|
|
01:16:57,109 --> 01:16:59,600
|
|
The richest fifth have 80%
|
|
of the world's income,
|
|
|
|
1204
|
|
01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,011
|
|
and the poorest fifth have 1%.
|
|
|
|
1205
|
|
01:17:02,081 --> 01:17:04,140
|
|
This gap--we all know this figure,
|
|
|
|
1206
|
|
01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:09,814
|
|
but we don't always remember that
|
|
this gap has actually doubled since 1960.
|
|
|
|
1207
|
|
01:17:09,889 --> 01:17:13,222
|
|
More and more thinkers
|
|
are therefore noting
|
|
|
|
1208
|
|
01:17:13,292 --> 01:17:16,784
|
|
that there is no evidence
|
|
that liberalization favors growth
|
|
|
|
1209
|
|
01:17:16,863 --> 01:17:18,592
|
|
or benefits the poor.
|
|
|
|
1210
|
|
01:17:18,664 --> 01:17:21,326
|
|
I think we're all generally aware
|
|
of increases in poverty
|
|
|
|
1211
|
|
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,494
|
|
and low living standards and issues
|
|
faced by developing countries.
|
|
|
|
1212
|
|
01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:28,734
|
|
And what Mr. Sprat had to say today
|
|
really is a terrific sign of hope
|
|
|
|
1213
|
|
01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:31,834
|
|
for what I think we all aspire to,
|
|
|
|
1214
|
|
01:17:31,911 --> 01:17:35,847
|
|
and that's a global economy
|
|
that benefits all people.
|
|
|
|
1215
|
|
01:17:44,056 --> 01:17:47,958
|
|
Now, after protected, protracted,
|
|
and detailed review
|
|
|
|
1216
|
|
01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:51,793
|
|
of current trade policy,
|
|
the World Trade Organization has decided
|
|
|
|
1217
|
|
01:17:51,864 --> 01:17:54,856
|
|
to affect a cessation of all operations
|
|
|
|
1218
|
|
01:17:54,934 --> 01:17:57,425
|
|
to be accomplished
|
|
over the next four months
|
|
|
|
1219
|
|
01:17:57,503 --> 01:18:00,939
|
|
culminating by the end of September...
|
|
|
|
1220
|
|
01:18:01,007 --> 01:18:03,840
|
|
Well, I think that the Yes Men
|
|
|
|
1221
|
|
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:05,639
|
|
have kind of played out their course
|
|
|
|
1222
|
|
01:18:05,711 --> 01:18:08,874
|
|
in relation to the World Trade
|
|
Organization for the moment.
|
|
|
|
1223
|
|
01:18:08,948 --> 01:18:12,145
|
|
You never know when we
|
|
might get another invitation.
|
|
|
|
1224
|
|
01:18:12,218 --> 01:18:17,520
|
|
We were lucky to be able to provide a sort
|
|
of sense of closure by ending the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1225
|
|
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,582
|
|
We also hope that other people
|
|
will just start doing the same things
|
|
|
|
1226
|
|
01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:22,491
|
|
in all kinds of different contexts--
|
|
|
|
1227
|
|
01:18:22,561 --> 01:18:28,022
|
|
impersonating whoever holds power
|
|
that needs to be criticized.
|
|
|
|
1228
|
|
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,160
|
|
So if the opportunity arises,
|
|
we're just gonna keep doing it.
|
|
|
|
1229
|
|
01:18:31,237 --> 01:18:34,638
|
|
We're gonna go and...
|
|
be the Yes Men again,
|
|
|
|
1230
|
|
01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,642
|
|
or I should say,
|
|
be the WTO again in another event.
|
|
|
|
1231
|
|
01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,543
|
|
The future's bright for the Yes Men.
|
|
|
|
1232
|
|
01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,549
|
|
The future of the world
|
|
is a different story.
|
|
|
|
1233
|
|
01:19:19,185 --> 01:19:22,586
|
|
No, this isn't the way
|
|
he usually dresses.
|
|
|
|
1234
|
|
01:19:22,655 --> 01:19:26,182
|
|
He works for the World Trade
|
|
Organization--you know, the WTO.
|
|
|
|
1235
|
|
01:19:26,258 --> 01:19:29,421
|
|
He works--
|
|
see, we're at a conference,
|
|
|
|
1236
|
|
01:19:29,495 --> 01:19:33,261
|
|
and he's demonstrating
|
|
a new kind of technology.
|
|
|
|
1237
|
|
01:19:33,332 --> 01:19:38,292
|
|
This is--well, it's a device
|
|
to measure employee working
|
|
|
|
1238
|
|
01:19:38,371 --> 01:19:40,498
|
|
in less developed countries.
|
|
|
|
1239
|
|
01:19:40,573 --> 01:19:44,304
|
|
There's a thing here where...
|
|
|
|
1240
|
|
01:19:44,377 --> 01:19:48,279
|
|
on this screen I can see...
|
|
|
|
1241
|
|
01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:51,316
|
|
See, he watches people working there.
|
|
|
|
1242
|
|
01:19:51,384 --> 01:19:54,444
|
|
And they have little devices
|
|
that give them shocks.
|
|
|
|
1243
|
|
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,511
|
|
It's just regular fabric.
|
|
|
|
1244
|
|
01:19:56,589 --> 01:19:59,922
|
|
In the future,
|
|
it'll be sensitive-smart fabric.
|
|
|
|
1245
|
|
01:19:59,992 --> 01:20:01,584
|
|
It's a little hot, but...
|
|
|
|
1246
|
|
01:20:02,862 --> 01:20:04,193
|
|
That one looks better.
|
|
|