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+Jeez, this is terrible.
+
+2
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+It's the stupidest.
+I can't--
+
+3
+00:00:39,052 --> 00:00:41,987
+It's an hour's difference.
+The time zone is different here.
+
+4
+00:00:42,989 --> 00:00:46,584
+Fuck. It's unbelievable.
+How the fuck can that happen?
+
+5
+00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:48,150
+Okay. Here.
+
+6
+00:00:48,228 --> 00:00:50,492
+Okay, there. That's done.
+Now what?
+
+7
+00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:51,895
+Okay. Got it. Okay.
+
+8
+00:00:51,965 --> 00:00:53,455
+Pull it up.
+
+9
+00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,967
+Okay, now let's get your...
+
+10
+00:01:03,710 --> 00:01:07,373
+A few years ago, we wanted to...
+
+11
+00:01:07,447 --> 00:01:11,042
+try to help out with some activist's
+anti-corporate activities.
+
+12
+00:01:11,118 --> 00:01:14,281
+And we heard about this website
+called rtmark.com.
+
+13
+00:01:14,354 --> 00:01:16,584
+And we went there, and they--
+
+14
+00:01:16,656 --> 00:01:19,489
+they handed us a domain name--
+gwbush.com--
+
+15
+00:01:19,559 --> 00:01:21,686
+and asked us if we might like
+to make a website
+
+16
+00:01:21,762 --> 00:01:23,821
+that was critical of George Bush.
+
+17
+00:01:23,897 --> 00:01:27,628
+Because George Bush's real
+domain name was georgewbush.com.
+
+18
+00:01:27,701 --> 00:01:31,296
+And this was 1999,
+so it was just during the campaign
+
+19
+00:01:31,371 --> 00:01:33,498
+when he was beginning
+to run for president.
+
+20
+00:01:33,573 --> 00:01:36,167
+And we didn't really know
+quite what to do,
+
+21
+00:01:36,243 --> 00:01:38,575
+so we went to Bush's website
+and looked at it.
+
+22
+00:01:38,645 --> 00:01:41,375
+And it turned out to be full
+of strange hypocrisies, like,
+
+23
+00:01:41,448 --> 00:01:44,508
+for example, he called himself
+"The environmental governor of Texas,"
+
+24
+00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:47,678
+but we looked a little closer
+at his record and found out
+
+25
+00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:51,212
+that he had actually created
+the most polluted state in the country
+
+26
+00:01:51,291 --> 00:01:54,089
+because he dismantled
+the Clean Air Laws while he was there.
+
+27
+00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:56,891
+And, actually, that's, I guess,
+what he's doing now nationally.
+
+28
+00:01:56,963 --> 00:01:59,158
+So we thought,
+"Well, this kind of hypocrisy
+
+29
+00:01:59,232 --> 00:02:02,395
+we can easily poke fun at
+by making a satire website."
+
+30
+00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:05,199
+And we made this satire website
+that looked exactly like Bush's
+
+31
+00:02:05,272 --> 00:02:07,604
+except for a few key differences.
+
+32
+00:02:07,674 --> 00:02:10,165
+Like there was a photo on the banner--
+
+33
+00:02:10,243 --> 00:02:14,976
+instead of him and his wife
+in front of the capitol building in Texas,
+
+34
+00:02:15,048 --> 00:02:17,915
+we showed him pointing the finger
+at black people.
+
+35
+00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:21,579
+And this seemed to get him
+a little bit angry.
+
+36
+00:02:21,655 --> 00:02:23,589
+So the Bush campaign
+tried to shut us down
+
+37
+00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:25,648
+by sending us
+a cease and desist letter
+
+38
+00:02:25,725 --> 00:02:28,125
+and by complaining
+to the Federal Election Commission.
+
+39
+00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:30,459
+But we were able
+to just take those threats
+
+40
+00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:32,964
+and send them to the media.
+
+41
+00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,092
+And immediately the <i>New York Times</i>
+wrote an article,
+
+42
+00:02:35,168 --> 00:02:37,102
+and there were a whole bunch
+of other articles.
+
+43
+00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:39,832
+In fact, one reporter
+read these articles and,
+
+44
+00:02:39,906 --> 00:02:42,238
+at a press conference,
+asked Bush,
+
+45
+00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:45,904
+"So, what about this website--
+gwbush.com--what do you think of that?"
+
+46
+00:03:10,937 --> 00:03:12,268
+So it was all over the place.
+
+47
+00:03:12,339 --> 00:03:13,931
+A lot of people read about it,
+
+48
+00:03:14,007 --> 00:03:18,000
+including a guy who had another
+domain name called gatt.org.
+
+49
+00:03:18,078 --> 00:03:21,241
+And, of course, GATT is the
+Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade,
+
+50
+00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:24,477
+and it's the predecessor agreement
+to the World Trade Organization.
+
+51
+00:03:24,551 --> 00:03:26,951
+And he said,
+"If you could do this for Bush,
+
+52
+00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,955
+then maybe you can
+also do this for the WTO."
+
+53
+00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:36,491
+The WTO is supposed to be
+sort of a United Nations of commerce,
+
+54
+00:03:36,563 --> 00:03:40,727
+a conglomeration
+of all these countries in the world...
+
+55
+00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,395
+that get together every now and then
+to discuss trade policies
+
+56
+00:03:44,471 --> 00:03:50,239
+in how exactly goods will be bought
+and sold throughout the world.
+
+57
+00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:54,076
+I'm sure, originally,
+the stated purpose of the WTO
+
+58
+00:03:54,147 --> 00:03:57,878
+was to help these countries
+who are developing
+
+59
+00:03:57,951 --> 00:04:02,479
+so that, you know, the world community
+can help raise them out of poverty.
+
+60
+00:04:02,556 --> 00:04:05,787
+In fact, what it's done is
+it's allowed large corporations
+
+61
+00:04:05,859 --> 00:04:09,351
+to go in and exploit these people
+even further
+
+62
+00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:12,296
+so that Americans
+become even wealthier
+
+63
+00:04:12,365 --> 00:04:16,699
+and the people in these countries
+continue to struggle to get by.
+
+64
+00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:22,402
+And I think that's--
+at this point it's upset quite a few people.
+
+65
+00:04:37,557 --> 00:04:40,458
+So I gotta try
+and remember where Sal lives.
+
+66
+00:04:40,527 --> 00:04:45,362
+It's a little bit complicated. There's, like,
+this snaking road up over the hills.
+
+67
+00:04:45,432 --> 00:04:47,263
+And who is Sal?
+
+68
+00:04:47,334 --> 00:04:51,202
+Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego,
+
+69
+00:04:51,271 --> 00:04:55,002
+and he moved to L.A.
+to work in the movie industry,
+
+70
+00:04:55,075 --> 00:04:59,239
+and that's why now he does,
+actually, costuming professionally.
+
+71
+00:04:59,312 --> 00:05:01,473
+He builds, like, weird suits
+
+72
+00:05:01,548 --> 00:05:04,813
+out of pretty much
+any material you can imagine.
+
+73
+00:05:04,884 --> 00:05:08,183
+And so, when we needed a costume,
+I knew who to call.
+
+74
+00:05:18,798 --> 00:05:20,129
+Yeah, this is it. Yeah.
+
+75
+00:05:22,435 --> 00:05:26,838
+I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually,
+as long as we're at it here.
+
+76
+00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:29,268
+- Yeah--I don't like it.
+- Okay.
+
+77
+00:05:29,342 --> 00:05:34,245
+It looks too much like sex stuff
+instead of--it's not very modern-looking.
+
+78
+00:05:34,314 --> 00:05:37,715
+Remember, this is the future.
+This isn't about, like, straps and stuff.
+
+79
+00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:40,150
+That's like dungeons and torture
+in the past.
+
+80
+00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,553
+The costume
+is a manager's leisure suit.
+
+81
+00:05:43,623 --> 00:05:46,285
+And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh,
+
+82
+00:05:46,359 --> 00:05:48,919
+the representative
+from the World Trade Organization,
+
+83
+00:05:48,995 --> 00:05:52,897
+is going to go and wear
+this breakaway business suit
+
+84
+00:05:52,966 --> 00:05:54,456
+that's gonna be pulled off of him
+
+85
+00:05:54,534 --> 00:05:57,128
+during the middle
+of the keynote address to the conference.
+
+86
+00:05:57,203 --> 00:06:01,435
+And then a big inflatable phallus
+is going to emerge from this golden suit,
+
+87
+00:06:01,508 --> 00:06:03,442
+and on the end of it is a TV screen
+
+88
+00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,775
+that he uses
+to manage sweatshops remotely.
+
+89
+00:06:08,048 --> 00:06:10,107
+The reason we got invited
+to these things
+
+90
+00:06:10,183 --> 00:06:12,413
+is we have a website
+called gatt.org.
+
+91
+00:06:12,485 --> 00:06:16,285
+The gatt.org website looks a lot
+like the WTO website,
+
+92
+00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:19,519
+but it is critical of the WTO.
+
+93
+00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:21,753
+Most people, though,
+who find gatt.org
+
+94
+00:06:21,828 --> 00:06:25,320
+by searching
+for the World Trade Organization...
+
+95
+00:06:25,398 --> 00:06:28,890
+will go without reading it
+and will send us e-mail directly.
+
+96
+00:06:28,968 --> 00:06:32,768
+So a lot of people ask us
+weird questions about tariffs and trade,
+
+97
+00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,239
+and we try to answer
+as accurately as we can.
+
+98
+00:06:35,308 --> 00:06:37,367
+And occasionally invitations come in
+
+99
+00:06:37,444 --> 00:06:41,175
+from official
+or quasi-official organizations
+
+100
+00:06:41,247 --> 00:06:44,648
+asking for opinions
+or asking us to attend a conference.
+
+101
+00:06:44,718 --> 00:06:48,381
+And so, when they ask, they really think
+they're talking to the WTO,
+
+102
+00:06:48,455 --> 00:06:52,516
+and we respond by giving them
+what we think they want--
+
+103
+00:06:52,592 --> 00:06:54,992
+which is the opinions of the WTO--
+
+104
+00:06:55,061 --> 00:06:57,222
+as accurately
+as we can represent them.
+
+105
+00:06:57,297 --> 00:06:59,959
+You know what I'm thinking,
+actually, looking at this...
+
+106
+00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:03,227
+is that maybe this is a zipper.
+
+107
+00:07:03,303 --> 00:07:04,361
+Yeah! Yeah, yeah.
+
+108
+00:07:04,437 --> 00:07:07,167
+Then he just unzips it
+and pulls the thing at the same time.
+
+109
+00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,105
+- That could be really good.
+- Because...
+
+110
+00:07:09,175 --> 00:07:13,168
+to have it burst out of the Velcro,
+it might not be strong enough to burst out,
+
+111
+00:07:13,246 --> 00:07:14,941
+and then he'd have to pull it.
+
+112
+00:07:15,348 --> 00:07:17,213
+Part of the thing
+that gives us the courage
+
+113
+00:07:17,283 --> 00:07:23,347
+to go to Tampere...
+with this really absurd suit
+
+114
+00:07:23,423 --> 00:07:26,415
+is that we already went
+to Salzburg, Austria, to represent
+
+115
+00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:30,486
+the World Trade Organization
+at a conference on tariffs and trade.
+
+116
+00:07:30,563 --> 00:07:35,762
+There, our representative--the same guy
+who is Hank Hardy Unruh here--
+
+117
+00:07:35,835 --> 00:07:38,770
+was Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer there.
+
+118
+00:07:38,838 --> 00:07:40,772
+And he gave a lecture that focused
+
+119
+00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,675
+on basically doing away with
+all customs in the name of free trade,
+
+120
+00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:49,306
+like getting rid of the <i>siesta</i>
+in Spain and Italy
+
+121
+00:07:49,382 --> 00:07:52,112
+so that business hours
+could be the same.
+
+122
+00:07:52,185 --> 00:07:55,313
+In Italy, on the other hand,
+you have a totally different situation,
+
+123
+00:07:55,388 --> 00:08:01,054
+in which sleep is...done during
+the day as much as at night almost.
+
+124
+00:08:01,127 --> 00:08:05,860
+And allowing people to sell their votes
+over the Internet to the highest bidder
+
+125
+00:08:05,932 --> 00:08:10,665
+so that the barriers to free trade
+and things like votes were out of the way.
+
+126
+00:08:10,737 --> 00:08:14,673
+One possible solution is being tested
+in the field of American politics
+
+127
+00:08:14,741 --> 00:08:19,508
+to streamline the grotesquely
+inefficient system of elections.
+
+128
+00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:24,573
+Vote-auction.com, in turn,
+employs only four people
+
+129
+00:08:24,651 --> 00:08:27,085
+to transmit not merely information,
+
+130
+00:08:27,153 --> 00:08:30,782
+but actual money
+directly to the consuming voter.
+
+131
+00:08:30,857 --> 00:08:37,854
+It's a--a forum for people voluntarily
+to offer their vote to the highest bidder.
+
+132
+00:08:37,931 --> 00:08:39,865
+And despite giving what we thought
+
+133
+00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,266
+was a lecture that would immediately
+get us booed off stage
+
+134
+00:08:43,336 --> 00:08:46,169
+or get Bichlbauer
+maybe even thrown in jail
+
+135
+00:08:46,239 --> 00:08:48,639
+because people would figure out
+he was an impostor,
+
+136
+00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,300
+the exact opposite happened.
+
+137
+00:08:50,376 --> 00:08:52,037
+Everybody was super polite.
+
+138
+00:08:52,111 --> 00:08:57,242
+It didn't seem like everybody even noticed
+that what he said was so absurd.
+
+139
+00:09:18,938 --> 00:09:20,269
+Well, so far...
+
+140
+00:09:21,708 --> 00:09:24,700
+...we thought Bichlbauer
+would be very extreme
+
+141
+00:09:24,777 --> 00:09:27,769
+and people would react to it
+and we'd get shut down,
+
+142
+00:09:27,847 --> 00:09:30,247
+and nothing of the sort happened.
+
+143
+00:09:30,316 --> 00:09:34,650
+So...this time we just have to really
+push it and make it totally extreme.
+
+144
+00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:37,053
+I mean, we keep trying
+to push things further
+
+145
+00:09:37,123 --> 00:09:43,062
+to try to really clarify the positions
+of the WTO to make them very legible.
+
+146
+00:09:43,129 --> 00:09:45,597
+It's one back,
+but this--this is good.
+
+147
+00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:56,798
+<i>Andy.</i>
+
+148
+00:09:59,045 --> 00:10:00,535
+It has a terrible siren.
+
+149
+00:10:06,119 --> 00:10:08,110
+I have to check the Web
+when we get upstairs.
+
+150
+00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:10,121
+Oh, my God. What are we
+gonna do about this--
+
+151
+00:10:10,189 --> 00:10:12,623
+we gotta watch the Patrick video.
+
+152
+00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:15,524
+It's weird stuff, isn't it?
+
+153
+00:10:16,863 --> 00:10:18,524
+That's one way of putting it.
+
+154
+00:10:18,598 --> 00:10:20,259
+It's really a problem.
+
+155
+00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:24,599
+It seems about the weirdest
+I've seen from him ever, I think.
+
+156
+00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,871
+It looks pretty good on this.
+
+157
+00:10:29,776 --> 00:10:31,038
+Yeah, it's all right.
+
+158
+00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:39,109
+What we have here is that we have
+our cyber Andy here
+
+159
+00:10:39,185 --> 00:10:42,120
+who's going to be wearing the suit.
+
+160
+00:10:42,188 --> 00:10:45,783
+And I'm going to be showing
+all the different ways
+
+161
+00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:50,693
+in which the Management Leisure Suit
+can be useful in industry today
+
+162
+00:10:50,763 --> 00:10:54,927
+and maximize leisure potential.
+
+163
+00:10:56,369 --> 00:10:59,634
+Sometimes I don't think they know
+what the hell to expect out of me.
+
+164
+00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,103
+What I'll come up with...
+
+165
+00:11:04,177 --> 00:11:09,240
+is frequently not exactly
+what they had in mind,
+
+166
+00:11:09,315 --> 00:11:12,580
+but it's...you know,
+
+167
+00:11:12,652 --> 00:11:16,816
+it fits in perfectly with what they're--
+what they're going to do.
+
+168
+00:11:17,623 --> 00:11:19,955
+Well, I came out
+of a corporate environment
+
+169
+00:11:20,026 --> 00:11:25,760
+and a company that I really gave,
+you know, a good bit of my soul to
+
+170
+00:11:25,832 --> 00:11:28,232
+over a long period of time progressively.
+
+171
+00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:31,429
+And there were a lot of downsizings
+and, of course,
+
+172
+00:11:31,504 --> 00:11:35,099
+the company I was with I thought
+was gonna take care of me.
+
+173
+00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:38,007
+And I realized
+that the bottom line is the bottom line,
+
+174
+00:11:38,077 --> 00:11:42,480
+and there really isn't any humanity
+in corporate structures,
+
+175
+00:11:42,548 --> 00:11:46,882
+so therefore I hope that maybe
+being part of the Yes Men
+
+176
+00:11:46,953 --> 00:11:51,686
+might, in some way, help raise issues
+about global work issues
+
+177
+00:11:51,758 --> 00:11:56,422
+and social issues that are being
+brought about by globalization, etcetera.
+
+178
+00:11:59,098 --> 00:12:01,157
+I grew up in the suburbs here,
+
+179
+00:12:01,234 --> 00:12:07,537
+and then I moved to Troy six years ago
+for a job at the university.
+
+180
+00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:11,976
+There's a place there called Rensselaer
+Polytechnic Institute, and I teach there.
+
+181
+00:12:12,045 --> 00:12:14,377
+I was moving back home, really,
+because I'd been away--
+
+182
+00:12:14,447 --> 00:12:17,416
+I'd been on the West Coast
+for about 12 years.
+
+183
+00:12:17,483 --> 00:12:18,643
+Wait, what is this?
+
+184
+00:12:18,718 --> 00:12:21,050
+This is--it's this...
+
+185
+00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,022
+...SimCopter hack.
+Here it is.
+
+186
+00:12:25,091 --> 00:12:27,889
+I wanted to watch this tape
+'cause this is the tape--
+
+187
+00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,726
+I've been cleaning out the archives,
+and I found this tape in there.
+
+188
+00:12:31,798 --> 00:12:34,892
+I met Andy through a friend, actually.
+A mutual friend.
+
+189
+00:12:34,967 --> 00:12:38,130
+Actually, two people
+that we both knew
+
+190
+00:12:38,204 --> 00:12:41,173
+suggested that me and Andy
+get in contact with one another
+
+191
+00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,572
+because we'd both
+done similar projects.
+
+192
+00:12:43,643 --> 00:12:47,977
+One of the jobs that I had was
+at this games company called Maxis
+
+193
+00:12:48,047 --> 00:12:49,776
+that makes SimCity.
+
+194
+00:12:49,849 --> 00:12:54,513
+One of the games they were making
+at the time was SimCopter.
+
+195
+00:12:54,587 --> 00:12:57,420
+I was in charge of the little people
+that run around in the game.
+
+196
+00:12:57,490 --> 00:13:00,948
+And I made them
+wearing nothing but swim trunks.
+
+197
+00:13:01,027 --> 00:13:04,428
+They'd all be boys, and they'd
+be running around kissing each other.
+
+198
+00:13:04,497 --> 00:13:08,092
+So all the people who ordered
+this very popular video game
+
+199
+00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:12,331
+suddenly were treated
+to a completely different spectacle.
+
+200
+00:13:12,405 --> 00:13:14,600
+So he got a lot
+of press attention for it,
+
+201
+00:13:14,674 --> 00:13:18,166
+and it was seen as a kind of--
+an activist kind of statement
+
+202
+00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:21,680
+about video games and the sort
+of macho nature of them.
+
+203
+00:13:21,747 --> 00:13:23,681
+It all involves
+the unexpected appearance
+
+204
+00:13:23,749 --> 00:13:27,150
+of some gay, kissing muscle men
+every Friday the 13th.
+
+205
+00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:30,053
+He's becoming a celebrity of sorts
+in the computer world--
+
+206
+00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:32,182
+especially the gay computer world.
+
+207
+00:13:32,258 --> 00:13:35,523
+And then I had done a project
+using Barbie dolls,
+
+208
+00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:39,031
+where we switched the voice boxes
+of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes.
+
+209
+00:13:39,098 --> 00:13:43,262
+<i>Troops! Attack that Cobra jet</i>
+<i>with heavy firepower!</i>
+
+210
+00:13:44,504 --> 00:13:48,998
+And that ended up in G.I. Joes that
+said things like, "I love to shop with you,"
+
+211
+00:13:49,075 --> 00:13:53,068
+and Barbie dolls that said things like,
+"Dead men tell no lies."
+
+212
+00:13:53,146 --> 00:13:56,240
+And we got them back
+on store shelves
+
+213
+00:13:56,315 --> 00:14:00,183
+all over the country in what we called
+our "Shop Giving Program."
+
+214
+00:14:00,253 --> 00:14:02,084
+We're like Santa Claus,
+only less radical,
+
+215
+00:14:02,155 --> 00:14:04,715
+because Santa Claus
+breaks into people's houses. We don't.
+
+216
+00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:07,156
+So that when kids
+got them at Christmas,
+
+217
+00:14:07,226 --> 00:14:08,955
+they were surprised to find their doll
+
+218
+00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,360
+saying something other
+than what they expected.
+
+219
+00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:15,423
+And the kids thought it was hilarious.
+They loved having these crazy dolls.
+
+220
+00:14:15,501 --> 00:14:16,991
+We sent out press releases,
+
+221
+00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:21,130
+so it was in the news on Christmas Day
+and for the week following.
+
+222
+00:14:21,207 --> 00:14:26,008
+It just went through every kind
+of media channel imaginable.
+
+223
+00:14:26,078 --> 00:14:28,842
+<i>- The B.L.O...</i>
+<i>- The Mission of the B.L.O...</i>
+
+224
+00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:32,146
+<i>The Barbie Liberation Organization--</i>
+<i>the B.L.O...</i>
+
+225
+00:14:32,218 --> 00:14:36,814
+<i>It was real funny 'cause it looks</i>
+<i>like, "Come on, fight me. Fight me!"</i>
+
+226
+00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:39,619
+<i>- Except it says...</i>
+<i>- I love school. Don't you?</i>
+
+227
+00:14:39,692 --> 00:14:41,023
+<i>Let's sing with the band tonight!</i>
+
+228
+00:14:41,093 --> 00:14:42,754
+Now we're--with the Yes Men,
+
+229
+00:14:42,828 --> 00:14:46,559
+we're calling that sort of basic idea
+"Identity Correction,"
+
+230
+00:14:46,632 --> 00:14:48,361
+like saying, these things--
+
+231
+00:14:48,434 --> 00:14:51,699
+these things that are not
+really presenting themselves honestly
+
+232
+00:14:51,771 --> 00:14:55,434
+or that hide something about their nature
+that's really scary,
+
+233
+00:14:55,508 --> 00:14:56,839
+we want to bring that out.
+
+234
+00:14:56,909 --> 00:14:59,241
+We want to show that.
+We want to demonstrate that.
+
+235
+00:14:59,312 --> 00:15:02,145
+And so, like for the WTO--
+
+236
+00:15:02,215 --> 00:15:04,046
+we think that the WTO
+
+237
+00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,778
+is doing all these terrible things
+that are hurting people
+
+238
+00:15:06,852 --> 00:15:08,843
+and they're saying the exact opposite.
+
+239
+00:15:08,921 --> 00:15:11,913
+And so we're interested
+in correcting their identity.
+
+240
+00:15:11,991 --> 00:15:15,483
+In the same way that an identity thief
+steals somebody's identity
+
+241
+00:15:15,561 --> 00:15:19,395
+in order to basically
+just engage in criminal practices,
+
+242
+00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:21,797
+we target people
+we see as criminals,
+
+243
+00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,461
+and we steal their identity
+to try to make them honest
+
+244
+00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,801
+or to try to present
+a more honest face.
+
+245
+00:15:26,872 --> 00:15:29,864
+And so...you know,
+I guess this whole thing
+
+246
+00:15:29,942 --> 00:15:32,433
+has its roots for both me and Andy
+
+247
+00:15:32,511 --> 00:15:34,843
+in stuff that we've been doing
+for a long time,
+
+248
+00:15:34,914 --> 00:15:38,577
+which is trying to create public spectacles
+that, in some kind of poetic way,
+
+249
+00:15:38,651 --> 00:15:43,179
+reveal something about our culture
+that's profoundly a problem.
+
+250
+00:15:58,371 --> 00:15:59,736
+That must be Sal.
+
+251
+00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:04,006
+- Oh, dude.
+- Are you okay?
+
+252
+00:16:04,076 --> 00:16:06,067
+I got fuckin' lost on that...
+
+253
+00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:07,476
+Oh, no.
+
+254
+00:16:09,515 --> 00:16:11,005
+It's been a long day.
+
+255
+00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:12,482
+Holy shit!
+
+256
+00:16:13,786 --> 00:16:18,723
+Well, I probably started it
+in June or July.
+
+257
+00:16:19,358 --> 00:16:23,124
+So, on and off
+for a good two to three months.
+
+258
+00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:27,131
+Just a couple more pieces
+of Velcro, and that'll really be it.
+
+259
+00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:30,691
+And, yeah, we're...
+at the end of the line.
+
+260
+00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:35,767
+Okay, look.
+So we're making a list here.
+
+261
+00:16:35,841 --> 00:16:38,571
+Wednesday we leave
+for Finland early,
+
+262
+00:16:38,644 --> 00:16:41,511
+so, Sunday...
+
+263
+00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,911
+make lecture.
+
+264
+00:16:42,982 --> 00:16:44,916
+Bigger?
+Oh, no. That's a big one.
+
+265
+00:16:44,984 --> 00:16:51,150
+PowerPoint...
+and then speech.
+
+266
+00:16:51,223 --> 00:16:52,281
+Finish.
+
+267
+00:17:04,403 --> 00:17:11,070
+It's 4:03 a.m., and I guess
+I'll just keep working until morning.
+
+268
+00:17:11,143 --> 00:17:13,475
+I feel...somewhat awake.
+
+269
+00:17:13,546 --> 00:17:16,538
+And then Andy can take over again.
+
+270
+00:17:17,983 --> 00:17:21,475
+We can do
+around-the-clock shifts, I guess.
+
+271
+00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:28,090
+I'm just trying to add a few slides
+into the PowerPoint here.
+
+272
+00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,690
+Because, actually, a lot of the things
+that business leaders of the world
+
+273
+00:17:34,767 --> 00:17:39,170
+say in relation to these issues
+are actually sort of very similar
+
+274
+00:17:39,238 --> 00:17:40,899
+to what Unruh Hank Hardy says,
+
+275
+00:17:40,973 --> 00:17:44,875
+even though maybe Unruh Hank Hardy
+is a little bit more frank about it.
+
+276
+00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:47,970
+And, in fact,
+when he talked to CNBC,
+
+277
+00:17:48,047 --> 00:17:49,378
+when he was debating,
+
+278
+00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:52,440
+an activist, Barry Coates,
+just sort of agreed with what he said
+
+279
+00:17:52,518 --> 00:17:56,352
+when he said that this is what
+the WTO does, and this is our position.
+
+280
+00:17:56,422 --> 00:18:01,086
+And Barry Coates said,
+"Well, that's funny. That's exactly right."
+
+281
+00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:09,090
+So...after Salzburg, we got an e-mail
+asking a representative of the WTO
+
+282
+00:18:09,168 --> 00:18:12,228
+to appear on CNBC
+MarketWrap Europe.
+
+283
+00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:18,971
+And the producer apparently didn't notice
+that gatt.org was not the WTO site.
+
+284
+00:18:19,044 --> 00:18:25,347
+And Granwyth Hulatberi, which is
+another name that Andy just came up with,
+
+285
+00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:28,012
+responded and, of course, said,
+
+286
+00:18:28,087 --> 00:18:31,579
+"Well, I'd be happy to go
+on CNBC MarketWrap."
+
+287
+00:18:31,657 --> 00:18:37,493
+And the producer wanted him to debate
+an anti-globalization protester.
+
+288
+00:18:37,563 --> 00:18:43,661
+If the WTO is serious about addressing
+the issues of world poverty,
+
+289
+00:18:43,736 --> 00:18:47,228
+it would do things
+completely differently than it is now.
+
+290
+00:18:47,306 --> 00:18:50,901
+Let me bring in Granwyth on that.
+Is that a fair point?
+
+291
+00:18:52,077 --> 00:18:56,480
+Well, of course it is, but I think Barry,
+as well as all the other protesters,
+
+292
+00:18:56,549 --> 00:19:01,646
+are simply, in a word, focused too much
+on reality and on facts and figures.
+
+293
+00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,212
+And I think I would have to say
+that this is a long-term problem
+
+294
+00:19:05,291 --> 00:19:07,782
+that comes down
+to a problem of education.
+
+295
+00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:12,354
+We have to find a way to convince
+perhaps not the protesters
+
+296
+00:19:12,431 --> 00:19:14,262
+but the protesters' children
+
+297
+00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:20,067
+to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman
+and Darwin and--and so on,
+
+298
+00:19:20,139 --> 00:19:23,074
+rather than what the protesters
+have been reared on--
+
+299
+00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:26,202
+Trotsky and Robespierre
+and Abbie Hoffman.
+
+300
+00:19:26,278 --> 00:19:30,271
+And I think that putting
+the direction of education,
+
+301
+00:19:30,349 --> 00:19:33,079
+being put into private hands--
+
+302
+00:19:33,152 --> 00:19:36,246
+a concentration of resources
+in the private sector--
+
+303
+00:19:36,322 --> 00:19:38,483
+will naturally lead to this result,
+
+304
+00:19:38,557 --> 00:19:41,048
+and we'll see
+the protesters' children being reared
+
+305
+00:19:41,126 --> 00:19:43,617
+with an entirely different
+set of concerns.
+
+306
+00:19:43,696 --> 00:19:45,357
+Let me bring you in on that, Barry.
+
+307
+00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:47,092
+Can--can I just say
+
+308
+00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,361
+that these kind of simplistic arguments
+
+309
+00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:53,098
+are really, I mean, too insulting
+to most people to believe.
+
+310
+00:19:53,172 --> 00:19:56,903
+The fact that we have a choice between
+Milton Friedman or Abbie Hoffman
+
+311
+00:19:56,976 --> 00:20:00,377
+for where we get our source
+of economic history and philosophy.
+
+312
+00:20:00,446 --> 00:20:03,438
+There are many, many thinkers
+from around the world--
+
+313
+00:20:03,516 --> 00:20:06,007
+just not those ones
+employed by the WTO--
+
+314
+00:20:06,085 --> 00:20:09,953
+that think the World Trade Organization
+policies are deeply damaging
+
+315
+00:20:10,022 --> 00:20:12,684
+for the development prospects
+of the poorest countries.
+
+316
+00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:14,419
+Let me go out to Granwyth.
+
+317
+00:20:15,961 --> 00:20:21,558
+Yes. Well, I wanted to speak
+to Granwyth--sorry--to Barry's point
+
+318
+00:20:21,634 --> 00:20:23,124
+that there are other thinkers.
+
+319
+00:20:23,202 --> 00:20:27,468
+Well, who actually has the power
+in the world, and so who is correct
+
+320
+00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,201
+in this kind of world view?
+
+321
+00:20:29,275 --> 00:20:31,607
+I mean, I think the answer is easy.
+
+322
+00:20:31,677 --> 00:20:35,511
+And if you look at the views
+held by myself, my organization,
+
+323
+00:20:35,581 --> 00:20:39,244
+and many, many
+of the decision-makers in the world--
+
+324
+00:20:39,318 --> 00:20:43,311
+the powerful people--they happen
+to coincide with what I'm explaining.
+
+325
+00:20:43,389 --> 00:20:46,881
+And I think this is enough
+in this sort of view.
+
+326
+00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,119
+Briefly, Barry.
+
+327
+00:20:48,193 --> 00:20:49,990
+So, I mean--what we have here
+
+328
+00:20:50,062 --> 00:20:53,657
+is a picture of the rich and powerful people
+believe a certain philosophy
+
+329
+00:20:53,732 --> 00:20:57,065
+which they then propound
+through the institutions
+
+330
+00:20:57,136 --> 00:20:58,728
+in which they have a powerful voice.
+
+331
+00:20:58,804 --> 00:21:02,205
+And I think this is exactly the model
+that is being questioned.
+
+332
+00:21:02,274 --> 00:21:07,211
+And, increasingly, what there is
+is a very large body
+
+333
+00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:09,611
+of people who are concerned
+about these rules.
+
+334
+00:21:09,682 --> 00:21:12,742
+The people on the streets
+of Genoa and Seattle
+
+335
+00:21:12,818 --> 00:21:15,286
+are not representative
+of the overall movement.
+
+336
+00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:16,946
+They are the tip of the iceberg.
+
+337
+00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:20,856
+We did a study last year
+that looked across developing countries
+
+338
+00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:24,020
+and found that in the space
+of one year, in 50 protests,
+
+339
+00:21:24,096 --> 00:21:26,929
+more than a million people
+from developing countries
+
+340
+00:21:26,999 --> 00:21:29,661
+were out trying to change the rules
+
+341
+00:21:29,735 --> 00:21:32,465
+that were being imposed on them
+by the World Bank and the IMF
+
+342
+00:21:32,538 --> 00:21:35,200
+and locked down
+through the World Trade Organization.
+
+343
+00:21:35,274 --> 00:21:38,141
+Thank you. We must finish.
+Barry Coates, thank you for joining us.
+
+344
+00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:42,044
+And also Granwyth Hulatberi and
+Vernon Ellis on the line from New York.
+
+345
+00:22:08,807 --> 00:22:10,206
+Section three?
+
+346
+00:22:13,412 --> 00:22:14,572
+Well...
+
+347
+00:22:14,647 --> 00:22:17,980
+It's not exactly a garment bag,
+but it's, uh...
+
+348
+00:22:19,018 --> 00:22:20,349
+...it'll work.
+
+349
+00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,150
+Yeah? You think this
+is very business-like?
+
+350
+00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:26,885
+It's like very official?
+
+351
+00:22:26,959 --> 00:22:29,018
+Very...very big money.
+
+352
+00:22:29,094 --> 00:22:32,894
+Okay, good. That's what I need.
+I need a big money watch.
+
+353
+00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:38,697
+So are you as nervous
+as you were for Salzburg?
+
+354
+00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:41,171
+The thing is, like,
+even with the Salzburg thing,
+
+355
+00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,970
+we went into it, like...
+
+356
+00:22:44,043 --> 00:22:47,843
+sort of--we went there really nervous,
+but the whole time kind of--
+
+357
+00:22:47,913 --> 00:22:50,575
+it doesn't really sink in
+till you're actually there.
+
+358
+00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:51,775
+Right.
+
+359
+00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:55,251
+Well, I think it's good you guys,
+from what I've seen of the speech,
+
+360
+00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,721
+it kind of starts out
+the most normal that it is,
+
+361
+00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:01,282
+so that he can get comfortable,
+and people--
+
+362
+00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,524
+he can sort of slowly
+work his way up into it.
+
+363
+00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,257
+Son of a fucking bitch.
+
+364
+00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,501
+Shit.
+
+365
+00:23:13,505 --> 00:23:16,633
+Yeah, do you have a rag? Fuck.
+
+366
+00:23:17,276 --> 00:23:21,474
+Shit. I have one that has shoe polish
+on it, but that's not right, right?
+
+367
+00:23:24,383 --> 00:23:26,715
+- The screen get a little paint on it?
+- Yeah.
+
+368
+00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:37,652
+- It sounds like a lawn mower.
+- It's a little loud, yeah.
+
+369
+00:23:38,997 --> 00:23:40,328
+- That's not good.
+- Forget it.
+
+370
+00:23:50,142 --> 00:23:53,305
+Look, it made a new noise.
+Good. Good. Good. Great.
+
+371
+00:23:53,378 --> 00:23:54,970
+- Is it great?
+- Try it.
+
+372
+00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,639
+It doesn't work now.
+
+373
+00:23:56,715 --> 00:23:58,546
+- Oh, listen! Yeah.
+- There it goes!
+
+374
+00:23:59,451 --> 00:24:00,782
+Gotta hurry!
+
+375
+00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,863
+Okay, ten minutes.
+They're both here.
+
+376
+00:24:18,337 --> 00:24:19,827
+Hey, Sal.
+
+377
+00:24:21,073 --> 00:24:22,131
+Thanks.
+
+378
+00:24:23,976 --> 00:24:25,136
+Good luck.
+
+379
+00:24:26,478 --> 00:24:28,309
+- We'll see how it goes.
+- Thanks for everything.
+
+380
+00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,974
+Yeah, sleep good.
+Have a good time here.
+
+381
+00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:33,611
+- Enjoy.
+- See you soon.
+
+382
+00:24:33,685 --> 00:24:36,210
+Move into my room.
+Have enjoyment.
+
+383
+00:24:36,288 --> 00:24:37,448
+Okay.
+
+384
+00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:43,158
+Is this everything?
+Wow. Look how efficient.
+
+385
+00:24:43,228 --> 00:24:44,388
+Okay.
+
+386
+00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:48,664
+Efficient.
+A model of efficiency right here.
+
+387
+00:24:51,804 --> 00:24:55,240
+You have some crap on your face
+right here. No, over here.
+
+388
+00:24:57,075 --> 00:24:58,133
+Much better.
+
+389
+00:25:30,576 --> 00:25:32,407
+We arrived last night.
+
+390
+00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:34,809
+You had to take a nap.
+You had to get some sleep.
+
+391
+00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,211
+I just crashed, yeah.
+
+392
+00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:40,115
+And I went and basically
+scoped out the lecture site.
+
+393
+00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,586
+There was a sign on the door
+that said, "Textiles of the Future,"
+
+394
+00:25:43,655 --> 00:25:47,591
+Unruh Hank Hardy was
+the first speaker--Hank Hardy Unruh.
+
+395
+00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,059
+And, you know,
+it all looked sort of official.
+
+396
+00:25:50,128 --> 00:25:52,790
+The coffee cups were out
+for the morning.
+
+397
+00:25:52,865 --> 00:25:54,856
+So I thought,
+"This is great. I'm all ready.
+
+398
+00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,094
+I know exactly where it is.
+We can go there."
+
+399
+00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:59,569
+I had a time--
+I set up a little timetable,
+
+400
+00:25:59,638 --> 00:26:03,836
+I got maps of the thing and all
+the updated conference information.
+
+401
+00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,940
+Came back here.
+Then we went to sleep early.
+
+402
+00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:13,007
+Hank was snoring immediately,
+but I wasn't able to sleep at all, really.
+
+403
+00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:14,780
+I just stayed there awake in bed
+
+404
+00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:18,516
+and occasionally I'd go in the bathroom
+and turn on the light and read brochures
+
+405
+00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,491
+because I was, like,
+just unable to sleep.
+
+406
+00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,893
+And eventually I think I fell asleep
+just before waking up.
+
+407
+00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:29,894
+Great.
+
+408
+00:26:32,671 --> 00:26:35,401
+So I'm leaving my wallet here.
+
+409
+00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,234
+Okay, let's go.
+
+410
+00:26:43,849 --> 00:26:45,510
+- Wait.
+- It's 8:00.
+
+411
+00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,575
+I think I really will leave it here.
+
+412
+00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:54,924
+Are you coming?
+
+413
+00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,922
+Hank, this is a little early
+to get up.
+
+414
+00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:06,499
+- It's all right.
+- I mean, I thought this was a vacation.
+
+415
+00:27:06,571 --> 00:27:08,232
+- Like what?
+- A vacation.
+
+416
+00:27:08,307 --> 00:27:09,706
+I know.
+
+417
+00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,437
+- I wanna go on a vacation.
+- They take me to Finland...
+
+418
+00:27:17,349 --> 00:27:20,682
+Let me take care of this egg for you.
+I'll just peel it.
+
+419
+00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,413
+That'll be nice. Thank you.
+
+420
+00:27:27,292 --> 00:27:29,783
+- But we're behind schedule.
+- Are we?
+
+421
+00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:35,026
+A little bit. It's after 8:00, and I really
+wanted to be at the venue at 8:00.
+
+422
+00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,761
+- Okay.
+- But we're doing fine.
+
+423
+00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,996
+- Is it after 8:00?
+- It is after 8:00.
+
+424
+00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:40,231
+Yeah.
+
+425
+00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:44,969
+You know, pretend like...
+
+426
+00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,383
+Great. We're early.
+
+427
+00:27:56,455 --> 00:27:57,615
+Oh, good.
+
+428
+00:28:00,192 --> 00:28:03,025
+Hello, I'm Hank Hardy Unruh.
+I'm from the--
+
+429
+00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,495
+- Oh, right. Nice to meet you.
+- Nice to meet you.
+
+430
+00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,725
+- We were expecting you.
+- Oh, good.
+
+431
+00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,428
+It's not 9:30--no.
+It's 8:30, right?
+
+432
+00:28:12,237 --> 00:28:16,071
+- But you will have a...
+- It's 8:30 now...is it?
+
+433
+00:28:16,141 --> 00:28:20,475
+lt...is...it's 9:30, yes.
+
+434
+00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:21,876
+- Now?
+- Yes.
+
+435
+00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:24,108
+- Yeah.
+- The time is 9:30?
+
+436
+00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:25,581
+- Yes.
+- Yeah. Almost.
+
+437
+00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,380
+- I'm on at...
+- It's 27 past 9:00 at the moment.
+
+438
+00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,944
+Oh, my God.
+We're an hour off.
+
+439
+00:28:31,023 --> 00:28:33,014
+- Oh, my God. Thank you.
+- You're welcome.
+
+440
+00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:36,458
+- Well, we have to--we start in three--
+- Anyhow, it was nice to see you.
+
+441
+00:28:36,528 --> 00:28:38,462
+Do they know
+that he's going on now?
+
+442
+00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:41,124
+Yeah--well,
+...was expecting you.
+
+443
+00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:43,258
+- Oh, jeez. Okay.
+- Okay, we...
+
+444
+00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,667
+Are you coming, too?
+Have you registered?
+
+445
+00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:53,166
+I'm his assistant.
+We're both working with him.
+
+446
+00:28:53,245 --> 00:28:55,736
+We have to go take care
+of a few things now.
+
+447
+00:28:55,814 --> 00:28:57,543
+- Here it is.
+- Okay.
+
+448
+00:28:57,616 --> 00:29:00,608
+- Would you like to join the dinner?
+- Yes, please.
+
+449
+00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:03,279
+- Is there a fee, or...
+- No, it's included.
+
+450
+00:29:03,355 --> 00:29:06,620
+Okay. Yes, we'll--
+we'll join the dinner. That's great.
+
+451
+00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,357
+- Wow.
+- We must hurry, I guess.
+
+452
+00:29:09,428 --> 00:29:12,022
+- Yes. I will accompany you.
+- Please. Yes.
+
+453
+00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,696
+Actually, no, you can't go in now
+
+454
+00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,099
+'cause you first have
+to take care of that business.
+
+455
+00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,662
+We're an hour--we're...
+we had an hour off.
+
+456
+00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,402
+- I have to do something.
+- Yes.
+
+457
+00:29:24,476 --> 00:29:26,808
+He has to make
+a very important phone call right now.
+
+458
+00:29:26,878 --> 00:29:28,709
+- It'll take me five minutes.
+- Right now?
+
+459
+00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,838
+I'm sorry.
+
+460
+00:29:29,915 --> 00:29:32,748
+But you will have your presentation
+starting after two minutes.
+
+461
+00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:35,309
+Please tell them
+that I'll be three minutes late.
+
+462
+00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,288
+Well, there's a detail.
+
+463
+00:29:43,361 --> 00:29:46,524
+Jesus. Fuck.
+How come we didn't know that?
+
+464
+00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:48,759
+I don't know.
+That's really incredible.
+
+465
+00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:52,292
+- Come on.
+- Okay. Pick up.
+
+466
+00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:55,766
+Jeez, this is terrible.
+
+467
+00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,105
+It's the stupidest--
+I can't...
+
+468
+00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:02,044
+There's--it's an hour's difference.
+The time zone is different here.
+
+469
+00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:08,147
+It's unbelievable.
+How the fuck can that happen?
+
+470
+00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,054
+- Okay, there. That's done now.
+- Ladies and gentlemen...
+
+471
+00:30:12,124 --> 00:30:14,524
+Okay, quick,
+that shirt--the underwear.
+
+472
+00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,256
+The gold underwear.
+
+473
+00:30:17,329 --> 00:30:18,591
+Okay...
+
+474
+00:30:19,998 --> 00:30:21,989
+Do I have to put
+something through here?
+
+475
+00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:23,728
+- No.
+- Okay.
+
+476
+00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:24,962
+Need help?
+
+477
+00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,238
+- Your testicles hanging out?
+- Uh, yeah.
+
+478
+00:30:31,209 --> 00:30:32,267
+Okay.
+
+479
+00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,504
+Here you go.
+
+480
+00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:35,939
+Okay. Great.
+
+481
+00:30:37,916 --> 00:30:41,647
+Oh, God.
+Okay...great.
+
+482
+00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,188
+- It's got a little air in it.
+- Okay, now the pants.
+
+483
+00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,847
+Hurry.
+
+484
+00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:53,094
+Oh, hi. Nice to meet you.
+I'm so sorry.
+
+485
+00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:13,348
+Thank you.
+I'm terribly sorry--
+
+486
+00:31:15,787 --> 00:31:17,618
+Yes, I have my presentation.
+
+487
+00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:20,788
+Terribly sorry.
+
+488
+00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:24,727
+I think the World Trade Organization is
+supposed to know about time zones, but...
+
+489
+00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,922
+Somebody said,
+"Isn't there a time difference?"
+
+490
+00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,096
+And I said, "Nope.
+All of Europe, same time zone."
+
+491
+00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,004
+- So that convinced us all.
+- Me too.
+
+492
+00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:40,238
+We were convinced that it was the right
+time, and we woke up this morning...
+
+493
+00:31:40,312 --> 00:31:43,440
+And we were running five
+or ten minutes late,
+
+494
+00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:47,474
+and then figured out
+that the laptop wasn't working.
+
+495
+00:31:47,552 --> 00:31:49,952
+No, maybe we could switch the order.
+
+496
+00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,353
+Could we have somebody else go,
+and then I go later?
+
+497
+00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,153
+They said, "I think we can do that."
+
+498
+00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,320
+Then they called the coffee people
+and talked to the coffee people
+
+499
+00:31:57,395 --> 00:31:58,953
+to see if the coffee was possible.
+
+500
+00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,019
+That was it.
+
+501
+00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,538
+Thank you very much.
+
+502
+00:33:15,106 --> 00:33:16,368
+This one...
+
+503
+00:33:17,642 --> 00:33:21,373
+It's quite an honor to be here
+in Tampere addressing this audience
+
+504
+00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:25,177
+of the most outstanding
+textile workers in the world today.
+
+505
+00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:30,451
+I see on all the faces here today
+a touching childlike eagerness
+
+506
+00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:34,390
+to tackle the biggest
+textiles questions in the world.
+
+507
+00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:36,791
+How do we at the WTO fit in?
+
+508
+00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:41,355
+What we want to do at the WTO
+is help you achieve your dollar results.
+
+509
+00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,697
+And in just 20 minutes from now,
+
+510
+00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:48,000
+I'm going to show you
+the WTO's very own solution
+
+511
+00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:51,804
+to two of the very biggest problems
+in management.
+
+512
+00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,107
+One--maintaining rapport
+with distant workforce,
+
+513
+00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,014
+and two--maintaining
+healthful amounts of leisure.
+
+514
+00:33:59,084 --> 00:34:03,282
+This solution, appropriately enough,
+is based in textiles.
+
+515
+00:34:05,824 --> 00:34:09,191
+But how did workers
+ever get to be a problem?
+
+516
+00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:12,227
+Before unveiling our solution,
+
+517
+00:34:12,297 --> 00:34:17,291
+I'd like to talk a bit about the history
+of the worker management problem.
+
+518
+00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:21,032
+We all know about the American
+Civil War--at least in the U.S.
+
+519
+00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:25,270
+It was the bloodiest, least-profitable war
+in the history of our country.
+
+520
+00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:27,709
+A war in which unbelievably
+huge amounts of money
+
+521
+00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:30,942
+went right down the drain--
+and all for textiles.
+
+522
+00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:35,952
+By the 1860s, the South
+was utterly flush with cash.
+
+523
+00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,511
+It had recently benefited
+from the cotton gin--
+
+524
+00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:41,058
+an invention that took
+the seeds out of cotton
+
+525
+00:34:41,126 --> 00:34:44,095
+and the South
+out of its pre-industrial past.
+
+526
+00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,823
+Hundreds of thousands of workers
+
+527
+00:34:45,897 --> 00:34:48,331
+previously unemployed
+in their countries of origin
+
+528
+00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,391
+were given useful jobs in textiles.
+
+529
+00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,162
+Into this rosy picture of freedom
+and boom stepped--you guessed it--
+
+530
+00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,231
+the North.
+
+531
+00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:01,301
+Now, some Civil War apologists have said
+that the Civil War, for all its faults,
+
+532
+00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:03,609
+at least had the effect of outlawing
+
+533
+00:35:03,681 --> 00:35:06,616
+an involuntarily imported
+workforce model of work.
+
+534
+00:35:06,684 --> 00:35:09,278
+Now, this model is, of course,
+a terrible thing.
+
+535
+00:35:09,354 --> 00:35:11,345
+I myself am an abolitionist.
+
+536
+00:35:11,423 --> 00:35:15,757
+But, in fact, there is no doubt
+that, left to their own devices,
+
+537
+00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:20,423
+markets would've eventually replaced
+slavery with cleaner sources of labor.
+
+538
+00:35:21,065 --> 00:35:23,363
+To prove my point,
+please join me
+
+539
+00:35:23,435 --> 00:35:26,768
+on what Albert Einstein used to call
+a thought experiment.
+
+540
+00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:32,006
+Suppose involuntarily imported labor
+had never been outlawed.
+
+541
+00:35:32,076 --> 00:35:35,671
+That slaves still existed,
+and that it were easy to own one.
+
+542
+00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:39,581
+What do you think it would cost today
+to profitably maintain a slave,
+
+543
+00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:41,642
+say, here in Tampere?
+
+544
+00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,123
+Let's see...a finished clothing set
+costs $50 at the very least.
+
+545
+00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,923
+Two meals from McDonald's
+cost about $10.00.
+
+546
+00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:54,988
+The cheapest small room
+probably runs for about $250 a month.
+
+547
+00:35:55,066 --> 00:35:58,001
+To function well, you have to pay
+for your slave's health care.
+
+548
+00:35:58,069 --> 00:36:02,130
+If its country of origin was polluted,
+for example, that might run expensively.
+
+549
+00:36:02,207 --> 00:36:05,199
+And, of course, what with
+child labor laws here in Finland,
+
+550
+00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,109
+much of the youth market
+is simply not available.
+
+551
+00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:13,150
+Now leave the same slave
+back at home. Let's say Gabon.
+
+552
+00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:17,086
+In Gabon, $10 pays
+for two weeks of food.
+
+553
+00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:22,218
+$250 pays for two years
+of housing, not a month, at best.
+
+554
+00:36:22,293 --> 00:36:25,956
+$50 pays for a lifetime
+of budget clothing.
+
+555
+00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,964
+And health care is,
+of course, cheaper.
+
+556
+00:36:28,032 --> 00:36:32,867
+On top of it all...youth can be
+gainfully employed without restriction.
+
+557
+00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,428
+The biggest benefit
+of the remote labor system, though,
+
+558
+00:36:35,507 --> 00:36:37,668
+is to the slave him or herself,
+
+559
+00:36:37,742 --> 00:36:42,008
+because in Gabon there is no need
+for the slave not to be free.
+
+560
+00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,479
+This is primarily because
+
+561
+00:36:43,548 --> 00:36:46,483
+there are no one-time
+slave transport costs to recoup
+
+562
+00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,542
+and so the potential losses
+from fleeing
+
+563
+00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,919
+are limited to the slave's
+rudimentary training.
+
+564
+00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,049
+Since the slave can be free,
+
+565
+00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,617
+he or she suddenly becomes
+a worker rather than a slave.
+
+566
+00:36:57,695 --> 00:37:01,290
+Also terrific for morale
+is that slaves--workers--
+
+567
+00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:03,766
+have the luxury of remaining
+in their native habitat
+
+568
+00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:06,702
+and don't have to relocate to places
+where they would be subject
+
+569
+00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:10,263
+to such unpleasantries
+as homesickness and racism.
+
+570
+00:37:11,009 --> 00:37:14,172
+I think it's clear
+from our little thought experiment
+
+571
+00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:17,737
+that if the North and South
+had simply let the market sort it out
+
+572
+00:37:17,815 --> 00:37:19,612
+without protectionist tariffs,
+
+573
+00:37:19,684 --> 00:37:23,745
+they would've quickly given up slavery
+for something more efficient anyhow.
+
+574
+00:37:23,821 --> 00:37:25,152
+By forcing the issue,
+
+575
+00:37:25,223 --> 00:37:29,159
+the North not only committed a terrible
+injustice against the freedom of the South,
+
+576
+00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,161
+but also deprived slavery
+
+577
+00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:34,426
+of its natural development
+into remote labor.
+
+578
+00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:38,324
+Had the leaders
+of the 1860s United States
+
+579
+00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:40,963
+understood what our leaders
+understand today,
+
+580
+00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,303
+the Civil War
+would never have happened.
+
+581
+00:37:44,142 --> 00:37:47,009
+In a world where the headquarters
+of a company might be in New York,
+
+582
+00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,342
+Hong Kong, or Espoo, Finland,
+
+583
+00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:53,578
+and the workers are in Gabon,
+Rangoon, or Estonia,
+
+584
+00:37:53,651 --> 00:37:56,984
+how does a manager maintain
+proper rapport with the workers,
+
+585
+00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,216
+and how does he or she
+ensure from a distance
+
+586
+00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:02,350
+that workers perform their work
+in an ethical fashion?
+
+587
+00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:05,790
+I'm about to show you
+an actual prototype
+
+588
+00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:10,323
+of the WTO's solution to two major
+management problems of today.
+
+589
+00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,234
+Now, we all know that not even
+the best workplace design
+
+590
+00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:16,967
+can help even the most
+astute manager keep track of workers.
+
+591
+00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:22,308
+What you need is a solution that enables
+complete rapport with workers--
+
+592
+00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,871
+especially when they're
+located far away.
+
+593
+00:38:26,084 --> 00:38:28,245
+Mike, would you help me a moment?
+
+594
+00:38:50,775 --> 00:38:52,106
+Thank you.
+
+595
+00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,906
+This is much better.
+Much more comfortable.
+
+596
+00:38:56,414 --> 00:39:00,578
+This is the WTO's answer to two
+of the major management problems,
+
+597
+00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:03,712
+and we're calling it
+the Management Leisure Suit.
+
+598
+00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,120
+It's--the two problems again--
+
+599
+00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:09,023
+how to maintain close rapport
+with distant workers
+
+600
+00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:13,928
+and how to remain comfortable
+and increase leisure activities.
+
+601
+00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,831
+How does
+the Management Leisure Suit work?
+
+602
+00:39:16,901 --> 00:39:20,064
+Besides being extremely comfortable,
+as I can guarantee you.
+
+603
+00:39:20,138 --> 00:39:23,904
+Well, allow me to describe
+the suit's core features.
+
+604
+00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,625
+This...
+
+605
+00:39:50,702 --> 00:39:54,103
+This is the E.V.A.--
+
+606
+00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:58,040
+the Employee Visualization Appendage.
+
+607
+00:39:58,109 --> 00:40:01,476
+It's an instantly deployable,
+hip-mounted device
+
+608
+00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:04,606
+with totally hands-free operation...
+
+609
+00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:09,016
+that allows the manager to see
+his employees directly right here.
+
+610
+00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:13,490
+Signals communicating the exact
+amounts and quality of physical work
+
+611
+00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:15,651
+are transmitted
+not only visually right here,
+
+612
+00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:21,359
+but directly through electric channels
+implanted directly into the manager.
+
+613
+00:40:21,432 --> 00:40:25,766
+The workers, for their part, are fitted
+with corresponding transmitting chips
+
+614
+00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:29,637
+that are implanted humanely
+directly into the shoulder.
+
+615
+00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:32,699
+But the other equally important
+achievement of the MLS
+
+616
+00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,438
+has to do with leisure.
+
+617
+00:40:34,512 --> 00:40:38,312
+In the United States, leisure--
+another word for freedom, really--
+
+618
+00:40:38,382 --> 00:40:42,284
+has been decreasing steadily
+since the 1970s.
+
+619
+00:40:42,353 --> 00:40:45,948
+The Management Leisure Suit
+permits the manager to reverse this trend
+
+620
+00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,321
+by letting him do his work anywhere
+
+621
+00:40:48,392 --> 00:40:51,486
+while remaining
+in complete touch with the workers,
+
+622
+00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:55,225
+physically sensing what's going on
+in the workforce, on the floor,
+
+623
+00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:58,234
+through channels implanted
+directly into the manager.
+
+624
+00:40:58,302 --> 00:41:01,135
+Again, the manager
+sees the employees,
+
+625
+00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:03,366
+but also feels what they're feeling
+
+626
+00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,775
+and can select where to focus
+in the workplace environment.
+
+627
+00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,011
+So, in conclusion,
+
+628
+00:41:11,082 --> 00:41:14,745
+I'd like to ask,
+is this a science-fiction scenario?
+
+629
+00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:21,914
+The answer is no.
+
+630
+00:41:22,927 --> 00:41:25,452
+Everything we've seen here,
+everything we've been talking about
+
+631
+00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:27,020
+is entirely possible today.
+
+632
+00:41:27,832 --> 00:41:31,233
+We can always look forward
+on the highways of progress
+
+633
+00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:33,361
+towards ever-new horizons
+
+634
+00:41:33,437 --> 00:41:37,703
+with cooperation and mutual delight
+in the fruits of prosperity.
+
+635
+00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:40,835
+I'm very excited to be here.
+Thank you very much.
+
+636
+00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,098
+Something we're trying
+to do more and more as...
+
+637
+00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:32,620
+I wasn't depressed
+by people not reacting,
+
+638
+00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,098
+I wasn't depressed by people just
+swallowing it and not asking questions
+
+639
+00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:40,661
+because I thought, "Well, that shows
+that you need some sort of control,"
+
+640
+00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:44,071
+because the WTO--me--
+can come in
+
+641
+00:42:44,141 --> 00:42:48,407
+and say these amazingly hideous things
+to this group of the most educated people,
+
+642
+00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:52,210
+like the top .1% education-wise people
+in the entire world
+
+643
+00:42:52,283 --> 00:42:54,148
+in a developed country
+like Finland--
+
+644
+00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,686
+these people all have PhDs
+or advanced degrees--
+
+645
+00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,745
+and you can say
+the most atrocious things
+
+646
+00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:02,315
+and nobody will really react
+and nobody will really care.
+
+647
+00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:06,921
+It's like, you know,
+what can't corporations get away with?
+
+648
+00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,641
+So, where are we?
+
+649
+00:43:20,711 --> 00:43:23,305
+Well, we're arriving
+in Helsinki right now.
+
+650
+00:43:24,482 --> 00:43:26,416
+We left the conference this morning.
+
+651
+00:43:26,484 --> 00:43:31,478
+It was just--it had driven us
+completely mad after dinner last night.
+
+652
+00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:33,955
+I think we had our fill with dinner.
+
+653
+00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,084
+I had to actually leave
+a little bit early.
+
+654
+00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,494
+I went over to the table where Unruh--
+
+655
+00:43:40,564 --> 00:43:44,694
+Hank Hardy had to sit
+with the big men and eat,
+
+656
+00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:47,101
+and I told him
+that we needed to leave
+
+657
+00:43:47,171 --> 00:43:51,835
+because we had a telephone meeting
+with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately.
+
+658
+00:43:53,878 --> 00:43:55,209
+- Great.
+- Hi.
+
+659
+00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:56,610
+Sorry to butt in a minute,
+
+660
+00:43:56,681 --> 00:43:59,013
+but we're supposed to meet
+Manduka Djubango...
+
+661
+00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:00,812
+- Oh, God.
+- ...at 10:00.
+
+662
+00:44:00,885 --> 00:44:02,716
+And then we both started laughing,
+
+663
+00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:05,984
+which was really not convenient
+for the context.
+
+664
+00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:10,016
+So we left, and we just decided
+that, basically,
+
+665
+00:44:10,094 --> 00:44:14,497
+we couldn't figure out what else
+we could possibly do at this conference,
+
+666
+00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:18,228
+so we just thought, "Well,
+let's go to Helsinki instead."
+
+667
+00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:20,665
+So, this is the paper.
+
+668
+00:44:20,738 --> 00:44:23,070
+On the front page--
+I just discovered it--
+
+669
+00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,473
+it says there's a seminar
+at the university
+
+670
+00:44:26,544 --> 00:44:30,878
+and that somebody talked
+about controlling remote workers
+
+671
+00:44:30,948 --> 00:44:34,111
+with electrical impulsions.
+
+672
+00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:37,018
+And then you turn to the page, and...
+
+673
+00:44:38,356 --> 00:44:39,846
+...and that's what you get.
+
+674
+00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:45,794
+And this right here represents
+the World Trade Organization.
+
+675
+00:44:45,863 --> 00:44:50,891
+This... <i>is</i>
+the World Trade Organization.
+
+676
+00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:59,600
+I went down to these
+Mexican border towns in the mid '80s.
+
+677
+00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,508
+They were called "Maquilladoras"
+
+678
+00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:04,173
+when they had
+the first trade agreements
+
+679
+00:45:04,248 --> 00:45:06,944
+between Mexico and the United States.
+
+680
+00:45:07,018 --> 00:45:10,283
+And everyone was saying, "This is
+gonna raise Mexico out of poverty,"
+
+681
+00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:12,845
+and things were gonna be so great,
+and within ten years,
+
+682
+00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,517
+they'd all be driving
+shiny new cars in Mexico.
+
+683
+00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:18,528
+And I went down there and saw this--
+
+684
+00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,430
+the incredible poverty
+in these Mexican border towns.
+
+685
+00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,402
+Fifteen years later, I went back.
+Not a damn thing had changed.
+
+686
+00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:29,928
+Here's all these workers working
+for all these American corporations,
+
+687
+00:45:30,007 --> 00:45:32,532
+and you just go across the street
+
+688
+00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:35,704
+and you found people
+living in the same horrid conditions,
+
+689
+00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:37,771
+the same poverty existing.
+
+690
+00:45:37,848 --> 00:45:41,579
+And you had to ask,
+"Well, who's benefiting from this?"
+
+691
+00:45:41,652 --> 00:45:44,143
+Who benefited were
+these American corporations.
+
+692
+00:45:44,221 --> 00:45:46,712
+During the 1990s,
+they became even more wealthy,
+
+693
+00:45:46,791 --> 00:45:49,954
+they posted record profits--
+larger record profits,
+
+694
+00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,757
+and the people in Mexico
+just continued to suffer.
+
+695
+00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:55,390
+It was all a big scam.
+
+696
+00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,949
+Is this the one?
+
+697
+00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:17,419
+No. You got the wrong one.
+
+698
+00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:18,648
+Shit.
+
+699
+00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:21,681
+"Will WTO stand up?"
+
+700
+00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:24,751
+Oh, my God. It's got pictures.
+They're nice, too.
+
+701
+00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:26,820
+Yeah, they actually look okay
+at that size.
+
+702
+00:46:26,897 --> 00:46:30,560
+"Bichlbaum isn't...
+but he plays one on TV."
+
+703
+00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:33,034
+This is basically the core
+of what we do.
+
+704
+00:46:33,104 --> 00:46:36,801
+All of these newspapers
+and magazines have articles
+
+705
+00:46:36,874 --> 00:46:38,603
+on the Yes Men,
+
+706
+00:46:38,676 --> 00:46:42,168
+and this is why
+we are doing these things.
+
+707
+00:46:42,246 --> 00:46:44,237
+This is why we go
+and do these conferences.
+
+708
+00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:46,647
+It's not for the 200 people
+or the hundred people
+
+709
+00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,878
+that might see us give the lecture.
+
+710
+00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:50,784
+Although we'd like them to come away
+
+711
+00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:53,517
+with an interesting experience
+from the lecture,
+
+712
+00:46:53,591 --> 00:46:57,994
+the reason we do it is so that people
+who read <i>Bizarre</i> magazine
+
+713
+00:46:58,062 --> 00:47:00,860
+or the <i>New York Times</i>
+or <i>Fortune</i> or <i>Harper's</i>
+
+714
+00:47:00,931 --> 00:47:03,593
+can read about it
+in the mainstream press.
+
+715
+00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:06,192
+This is how millions of people
+could read about it
+
+716
+00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:11,572
+and potentially get turned on
+to some of the ideas of anti-globalization.
+
+717
+00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:14,805
+One of the problems
+with the <i>Fortune</i> thing
+
+718
+00:47:14,879 --> 00:47:18,610
+is that it's in this--
+well, <i>Fortune--</i>
+
+719
+00:47:18,682 --> 00:47:22,846
+it's read by business people
+and accountants and that kind of thing.
+
+720
+00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,758
+And that's exactly who we're supposed
+to be talking to in Australia in May.
+
+721
+00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:31,658
+It's an accounting conference.
+
+722
+00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:34,721
+It's a little...
+a little worrisome.
+
+723
+00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,743
+You need a new shirt?
+One that's not wrinkled?
+
+724
+00:47:47,811 --> 00:47:48,800
+Yeah.
+
+725
+00:47:48,879 --> 00:47:50,710
+Will that be good with your thing?
+
+726
+00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:53,213
+Do you think it'll work
+with your suit?
+
+727
+00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:56,776
+This one's extra large. Yeah, they'll all
+work with my suit. It's terrible.
+
+728
+00:47:56,854 --> 00:47:59,186
+- It's striped, though. Is that okay?
+- Yeah.
+
+729
+00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:02,489
+- Sure it's okay.
+- Why don't you go get a shirt, then?
+
+730
+00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,893
+I'll just get this. Wait.
+Oh, it's not very much cotton.
+
+731
+00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,624
+- How much is it?
+- I hate that.
+
+732
+00:48:07,698 --> 00:48:10,360
+- 35%?
+- It's 35%. It's like...
+
+733
+00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:11,526
+No, it's fine for--
+
+734
+00:48:11,602 --> 00:48:13,536
+It doesn't wrinkle much--
+that's nice about that.
+
+735
+00:48:13,604 --> 00:48:16,164
+I'll just wear it. All right.
+
+736
+00:48:22,846 --> 00:48:25,508
+The thing is, there's a question
+of whether he's--
+
+737
+00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:28,313
+at what point he recognizes you
+doesn't really matter.
+
+738
+00:48:28,385 --> 00:48:31,877
+What we want is that moment
+when he does recognize you.
+
+739
+00:48:31,956 --> 00:48:34,948
+So if he recognizes you here
+and sees that you're in the room,
+
+740
+00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:38,290
+then he'll be looking back and forth
+at you, at the screen.
+
+741
+00:48:38,362 --> 00:48:41,695
+At that point, if he recognizes you,
+we better say something.
+
+742
+00:48:45,536 --> 00:48:47,868
+No, I think it's down here,
+but I don't know.
+
+743
+00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,801
+It must be right down Morris.
+
+744
+00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,035
+Remember we walked...
+
+745
+00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,442
+It's on the end of this line here.
+
+746
+00:49:11,228 --> 00:49:12,286
+Thanks.
+
+747
+00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:18,260
+- Andy, hi. How're you doing?
+- Barry. Nice to meet you.
+
+748
+00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:20,963
+- Good to meet you.
+- Good. Great.
+
+749
+00:49:21,038 --> 00:49:22,198
+We're in London,
+
+750
+00:49:22,273 --> 00:49:26,266
+and we were just at the offices
+of the World Development Movement
+
+751
+00:49:26,343 --> 00:49:27,833
+where we talked to Barry Coates,
+
+752
+00:49:27,911 --> 00:49:30,072
+who's the director
+of the World Development Movement
+
+753
+00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,140
+and who showed up
+on CNBC MarketWrap Europe
+
+754
+00:49:34,218 --> 00:49:37,881
+debating our friend here--
+Granwyth Hulatberi--
+
+755
+00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:42,289
+about the prospects of WTO
+and globalization.
+
+756
+00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:46,022
+We kind of expected him maybe to have
+a glimmer of recognition immediately,
+
+757
+00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,358
+and he didn't--okay.
+
+758
+00:49:47,431 --> 00:49:50,025
+Then we put on the tape and...
+
+759
+00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,264
+he laughed
+at how horribly stupid it was,
+
+760
+00:49:54,338 --> 00:49:55,999
+but he never realized
+
+761
+00:49:56,073 --> 00:49:59,406
+that this wasn't really
+a representative of the WTO.
+
+762
+00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:02,070
+Even when he saw me
+like this right next to him,
+
+763
+00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:05,172
+and then we switched seats
+and he still didn't notice.
+
+764
+00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,707
+Then I had to put my face
+next to the thing and go...
+
+765
+00:50:08,786 --> 00:50:10,913
+Yeah, let's just pause it here.
+
+766
+00:50:10,988 --> 00:50:13,149
+- Okay. Hit stop.
+- Is there a pause?
+
+767
+00:50:13,223 --> 00:50:15,054
+- Stop button.
+- There's no pause.
+
+768
+00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:18,754
+I don't know what I could've said
+after that clip.
+
+769
+00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:20,558
+I mean...really...
+
+770
+00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:26,129
+"Where did they get this guy from?"
+might've been my first comment.
+
+771
+00:50:26,203 --> 00:50:28,865
+So did you ever figure out
+where they got the guy from?
+
+772
+00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:36,136
+I understood that he was in the External
+Relations Department for the WTO.
+
+773
+00:50:36,213 --> 00:50:39,080
+- That's what they thought, too.
+- That's what they thought, as well.
+
+774
+00:50:39,783 --> 00:50:40,943
+- But...
+- But...
+
+775
+00:50:41,018 --> 00:50:44,010
+- ...as it happens, he wasn't.
+- Yeah.
+
+776
+00:50:44,088 --> 00:50:47,057
+- In fact--
+- Just take one more close look.
+
+777
+00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:50,854
+Wait, can we--is this reverse?
+
+778
+00:50:54,398 --> 00:50:55,888
+No!
+
+779
+00:50:59,269 --> 00:51:01,533
+I wasn't gonna mention the likeness.
+
+780
+00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,565
+You were being very polite,
+weren't you? Yeah.
+
+781
+00:51:06,577 --> 00:51:08,238
+- Yeah.
+- You did it as a spoof?
+
+782
+00:51:08,379 --> 00:51:10,108
+- Yeah.
+- Yeah. Basically...
+
+783
+00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:14,644
+That's good. We weren't sure
+how you would react.
+
+784
+00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:18,313
+We were really hoping you wouldn't be
+too offended. We were like, "Oh, no!"
+
+785
+00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:20,721
+Hell, no. That's great.
+That's really--
+
+786
+00:51:20,791 --> 00:51:23,624
+I was wondering,
+'cause I hadn't seen that guy before,
+
+787
+00:51:23,694 --> 00:51:27,095
+and I did know some of the WTO
+External Relations people,
+
+788
+00:51:27,164 --> 00:51:31,260
+and I was thinking, "My God,
+they really put up a right one this time."
+
+789
+00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,997
+We wanted to talk
+to Barry Coates as well
+
+790
+00:51:34,071 --> 00:51:39,008
+because he has a lot of statistics
+and information about globalization
+
+791
+00:51:39,076 --> 00:51:42,443
+that we thought would be useful
+for the lecture in Australia.
+
+792
+00:51:42,513 --> 00:51:45,004
+All of the WTO agreements bar one
+
+793
+00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:48,347
+are all about restricting
+what governments can do.
+
+794
+00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:53,015
+And so, essentially, the whole
+trading system is built on the premise
+
+795
+00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:58,255
+that the companies trading internationally,
+investing internationally,
+
+796
+00:51:58,328 --> 00:52:03,322
+are going to be preyed upon
+by nasty governments.
+
+797
+00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,732
+And, really, what we have
+
+798
+00:52:05,803 --> 00:52:08,738
+is an international system
+that is entirely the reverse.
+
+799
+00:52:08,806 --> 00:52:11,001
+What's got squeezed out of the system
+
+800
+00:52:11,074 --> 00:52:14,066
+is democracy,
+is development, is environment,
+
+801
+00:52:14,144 --> 00:52:17,136
+is the kind of human values
+
+802
+00:52:17,214 --> 00:52:20,650
+which really ought to be the center
+of what we're trying to do.
+
+803
+00:52:20,717 --> 00:52:24,209
+We don't live to trade, you know.
+
+804
+00:52:24,288 --> 00:52:27,121
+We live to have decent lives.
+
+805
+00:52:27,191 --> 00:52:29,682
+And that ought to be the goal
+of our trade policy,
+
+806
+00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,788
+not maximizing trade
+or getting rid of any impediments to it.
+
+807
+00:53:00,224 --> 00:53:02,351
+Looks good.
+I've got that.
+
+808
+00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,721
+Need to get the video...
+
+809
+00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,929
+...and we'll be off.
+
+810
+00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:10,432
+Let's see...
+
+811
+00:53:13,237 --> 00:53:16,070
+One of the big reasons
+why I'm up here
+
+812
+00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:20,098
+is that we have the Australia gig
+for the Yes Men.
+
+813
+00:53:20,177 --> 00:53:24,170
+I did an animation about the recycling
+of post-consumer waste
+
+814
+00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:27,979
+into hamburgers and fast food.
+
+815
+00:53:28,051 --> 00:53:30,281
+So...here we go.
+
+816
+00:53:30,921 --> 00:53:34,516
+The answer to the world's
+sustainable food future is in recycling.
+
+817
+00:53:35,826 --> 00:53:38,420
+Since over half our nutrients
+taken in are eliminated,
+
+818
+00:53:38,495 --> 00:53:39,894
+valuable resources are at risk.
+
+819
+00:53:39,963 --> 00:53:43,364
+By using post-consumer waste,
+reBurger allows essential nutrients
+
+820
+00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:46,732
+to be offered to developing countries
+for greatly reduced cost.
+
+821
+00:53:48,038 --> 00:53:49,699
+Okay...
+
+822
+00:53:54,411 --> 00:53:56,072
+It gets better.
+
+823
+00:53:57,314 --> 00:53:58,576
+- Wait.
+- What was that?
+
+824
+00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:01,140
+- Was that in outer space?
+- What the hell was that?
+
+825
+00:54:01,785 --> 00:54:04,720
+I think it does the job.
+I think it does the job.
+
+826
+00:54:07,624 --> 00:54:11,617
+We're here in New York
+because Herb Alpert,
+
+827
+00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:14,687
+of Herb Alpert
+and the Tijuana Brass,
+
+828
+00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:16,926
+gave us this award.
+
+829
+00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,664
+A bunch of money to do
+the kind of stuff that we do.
+
+830
+00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:24,229
+So we had to come here
+and have dinner with him
+
+831
+00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:26,970
+and get the money
+and thank everybody.
+
+832
+00:54:27,044 --> 00:54:29,877
+It was very nice
+and very surprising.
+
+833
+00:54:29,947 --> 00:54:33,280
+But we're very pleased.
+I think we can say we're very pleased.
+
+834
+00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:35,845
+Yeah, it was a big chunk of money.
+
+835
+00:54:35,919 --> 00:54:39,753
+It's gonna bankroll a lot
+of future activities like going to Australia.
+
+836
+00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,949
+Yeah, so we got
+this chunk of money but,
+
+837
+00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:45,358
+of course, now we're
+also using this opportunity
+
+838
+00:54:45,429 --> 00:54:48,091
+and this hotel room here in New York
+to meet up with Matt
+
+839
+00:54:48,165 --> 00:54:51,157
+who's been working on the PowerPoint
+presentation for Australia,
+
+840
+00:54:51,234 --> 00:54:52,826
+and to meet up with Patrick
+
+841
+00:54:52,903 --> 00:54:56,498
+who's been working on animations
+for Australia as well.
+
+842
+00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:00,703
+Fortunately we were lucky, too,
+because Snafu was in town.
+
+843
+00:55:00,777 --> 00:55:03,507
+He's sort of a European Yes Man.
+
+844
+00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:05,673
+He's been circulating
+in the European scene
+
+845
+00:55:05,749 --> 00:55:08,240
+doing Yes Men-type activities.
+
+846
+00:55:08,318 --> 00:55:11,253
+But it's a good thing
+he's here in the States
+
+847
+00:55:11,321 --> 00:55:13,653
+so he could go
+to Plattsburgh with us.
+
+848
+00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:16,215
+Yes, trade liberalization
+is a religious undertaking.
+
+849
+00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,853
+A project of faith, a crusade of sorts,
+and it has been
+
+850
+00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:22,296
+ever since its founders declared
+that financial success comes from God
+
+851
+00:55:22,366 --> 00:55:25,358
+and that wealth
+is a sign of divine favor.
+
+852
+00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:29,667
+Now, why is starvation a problem?
+First, the facts.
+
+853
+00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,834
+As we all know, investment
+and exports have been on the rise...
+
+854
+00:55:35,646 --> 00:55:37,307
+There's some bad news.
+
+855
+00:55:37,381 --> 00:55:40,646
+There's some really bad news
+that came down in the last two days.
+
+856
+00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:43,984
+The conference in Australia--
+
+857
+00:55:44,054 --> 00:55:46,716
+the people from the conference
+in Australia wrote an e-mail
+
+858
+00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:51,454
+saying that the conference has been
+canceled because of low enrollment.
+
+859
+00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:54,190
+In some ways
+it's really kind of, I guess,
+
+860
+00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:56,596
+a nice thing
+that there was underenrollment
+
+861
+00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:58,828
+because it was really
+a hideous conference
+
+862
+00:55:58,902 --> 00:56:00,961
+and it seemed like a really dire thing
+
+863
+00:56:01,038 --> 00:56:03,871
+that people would actually
+want to go to that thing.
+
+864
+00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,272
+And so, it's really
+encouraging for humanity
+
+865
+00:56:06,343 --> 00:56:08,743
+that the conference
+actually has been canceled.
+
+866
+00:56:08,812 --> 00:56:12,839
+But at the same time, it's really
+made things difficult for us.
+
+867
+00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:14,907
+So I wrote back to them
+as Hildegard West
+
+868
+00:56:14,985 --> 00:56:18,648
+and I asked them if they
+would please set up another venue
+
+869
+00:56:18,722 --> 00:56:22,317
+because Kinnithrung Sprat
+is already en route to Australia.
+
+870
+00:56:22,392 --> 00:56:25,793
+So right now I'm waiting to see
+if they come back to us
+
+871
+00:56:25,862 --> 00:56:29,696
+with a suggestion that they'll actually
+have a public presentation,
+
+872
+00:56:29,766 --> 00:56:32,496
+but since the conference
+has been canceled,
+
+873
+00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:38,098
+now the event in Plattsburgh might be
+the only venue we have for this lecture.
+
+874
+00:56:38,175 --> 00:56:41,611
+So it's really important now that we get
+the lecture done and sort of together.
+
+875
+00:56:41,678 --> 00:56:48,413
+So it's no longer a dress rehearsal.
+It's actually, like, the final production.
+
+876
+00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:51,317
+It's about time.
+
+877
+00:56:51,388 --> 00:56:53,481
+I was so worried about your shoes.
+
+878
+00:56:53,557 --> 00:56:56,355
+This guy brought
+real shoes for you. Look.
+
+879
+00:56:56,426 --> 00:56:58,257
+Do we have the hamburgers yet?
+
+880
+00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,121
+- We have to pick them up.
+- You mentioned--
+
+881
+00:57:01,198 --> 00:57:03,530
+They're ordered.
+Richard ordered them already.
+
+882
+00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,431
+- That's fantastic.
+- We pick them up?
+
+883
+00:57:05,502 --> 00:57:08,562
+Basically, there's this guy
+named Richard Robbins who I met
+
+884
+00:57:08,638 --> 00:57:10,629
+at a conference
+about a month ago,
+
+885
+00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:15,508
+and he has written
+several books on globalization.
+
+886
+00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,843
+He was interested
+in having the WTO
+
+887
+00:57:18,915 --> 00:57:21,315
+come speak
+at the Economics Department.
+
+888
+00:57:21,384 --> 00:57:24,785
+Only he really knows that this
+isn't really the WTO.
+
+889
+00:57:24,855 --> 00:57:27,119
+Everybody else will think
+that it's the WTO.
+
+890
+00:57:27,741 --> 00:57:30,437
+But another good thing is
+that it will be a hungry audience,
+
+891
+00:57:30,511 --> 00:57:33,503
+so there's a good chance
+they are going to eat those hamburgers,
+
+892
+00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,741
+which we weren't sure
+was actually gonna happen
+
+893
+00:57:35,816 --> 00:57:38,148
+with the accountants in Australia.
+
+894
+00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,513
+I think, for look,
+I should probably carry these in.
+
+895
+00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,581
+Okay. Can you do it?
+
+896
+00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:49,493
+I'm thinking that you probably shouldn't
+be associated with the hamburgers.
+
+897
+00:57:49,563 --> 00:57:50,825
+Okay.
+
+898
+00:57:50,898 --> 00:57:53,298
+I'd like to thank everybody for coming.
+
+899
+00:57:53,367 --> 00:57:59,033
+You have many education choices,
+and we're all grateful at the WTO
+
+900
+00:57:59,106 --> 00:58:02,075
+that you have chosen
+to listen to us for an hour
+
+901
+00:58:02,142 --> 00:58:05,475
+and to our messages about things
+that will impact everyone.
+
+902
+00:58:05,546 --> 00:58:07,878
+I'd like to say that,
+by joining us here,
+
+903
+00:58:07,948 --> 00:58:11,008
+you're essentially embarking
+with us on a mission.
+
+904
+00:58:12,052 --> 00:58:14,646
+I'd like to start right at the beginning.
+
+905
+00:58:14,722 --> 00:58:16,383
+As I was saying,
+
+906
+00:58:16,457 --> 00:58:20,518
+trade liberalization is a project of faith;
+it's a crusade.
+
+907
+00:58:20,594 --> 00:58:22,653
+And in any crusade,
+there are problems.
+
+908
+00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,392
+There are invading armies,
+there are big blockades.
+
+909
+00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,301
+And one of the problems
+that we run into in this crusade
+
+910
+00:58:30,370 --> 00:58:32,065
+is starvation in the Third World.
+
+911
+00:58:32,139 --> 00:58:35,472
+You may recognize that symbol
+from those green bins you see...
+
+912
+00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:37,737
+where cans, bottles, blah, blah.
+
+913
+00:58:37,811 --> 00:58:41,645
+The kind of recycling I'm talking about
+that we have developed at the WTO
+
+914
+00:58:41,715 --> 00:58:46,778
+is...not--not really
+this irrelevant kind of recycling
+
+915
+00:58:46,854 --> 00:58:50,017
+where the target--
+individual consumers like you and me
+
+916
+00:58:50,090 --> 00:58:55,585
+or of non-edible industrial products--
+is such a tiny part of the problem.
+
+917
+00:58:55,662 --> 00:59:00,861
+Rather, we're talking about really
+recycling what counts where it counts.
+
+918
+00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:03,095
+To begin to understand
+the theory behind this,
+
+919
+00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:06,867
+you must first realize that the human body
+is not really very efficient.
+
+920
+00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:11,434
+When ingesting heavy foods,
+only about 20% of the nutrients
+
+921
+00:59:11,512 --> 00:59:14,276
+are absorbed
+by the alimentary passageway
+
+922
+00:59:14,348 --> 00:59:18,341
+while the other 80% finds itself
+expelled in post-consumer byproducts.
+
+923
+00:59:18,418 --> 00:59:19,908
+Already 20 years ago,
+
+924
+00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:23,821
+NASA scientists began
+to tap into this nutritional gold mine
+
+925
+00:59:23,891 --> 00:59:27,383
+by developing filters that could
+transform their astronauts' waste
+
+926
+00:59:27,461 --> 00:59:31,591
+into healthy, hygienic,
+and even delicious food once again.
+
+927
+00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:33,326
+With the use of this technology,
+
+928
+00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,393
+a single hamburger, for example,
+can be eaten more than ten times,
+
+929
+00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:42,374
+providing a cumulative total
+of three times the nutritional value
+
+930
+00:59:42,442 --> 00:59:44,603
+of the original fresh hamburger.
+
+931
+00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:48,478
+Now, again, a certain amount
+of cultural openness is required
+
+932
+00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:51,382
+as we investigate solutions.
+
+933
+00:59:51,451 --> 00:59:53,476
+And I'd love to take any questions.
+
+934
+00:59:53,554 --> 00:59:54,612
+Yes, you've been--
+
+935
+00:59:54,688 --> 00:59:56,519
+Coming from a Third World country,
+
+936
+00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,424
+I found most of what you said
+pretty offensive.
+
+937
+01:00:00,494 --> 01:00:05,329
+It's as if everyone is equal,
+but some are more equal than others.
+
+938
+01:00:05,399 --> 01:00:07,390
+And...who is to say
+
+939
+01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,664
+whether people in the Third World
+want a burger?
+
+940
+01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,900
+You know, I, in my heart,
+sometimes find it to agree
+
+941
+01:00:13,974 --> 01:00:17,637
+that cultures deserve
+an equal consideration
+
+942
+01:00:17,711 --> 01:00:19,645
+perhaps to develop on their own terms,
+
+943
+01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:21,044
+but we're different.
+
+944
+01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,776
+We're culturally different.
+We're rich, they're poor.
+
+945
+01:00:23,851 --> 01:00:26,319
+This is the most humane solution
+we can come up with
+
+946
+01:00:26,386 --> 01:00:28,081
+that stays within the market logic.
+
+947
+01:00:28,155 --> 01:00:31,818
+If it's all right, I could answer
+a portion of that question, as well.
+
+948
+01:00:31,892 --> 01:00:35,919
+And this answers the question
+about desire for the product
+
+949
+01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:39,329
+because the biggest growth areas
+are the developing world.
+
+950
+01:00:39,399 --> 01:00:43,392
+And so, in fact,
+people do want the product.
+
+951
+01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:48,635
+We do have a kind of video presentation
+about this that I came prepared to show.
+
+952
+01:00:48,709 --> 01:00:53,339
+It's not--the program isn't actually
+completely ready yet.
+
+953
+01:00:55,549 --> 01:01:00,953
+So, as you can see here,
+there's a consumer in the First World
+
+954
+01:01:01,021 --> 01:01:04,684
+entering McDonald's
+and consuming a hamburger.
+
+955
+01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:11,023
+And, afterward, this is the process
+we're all familiar with.
+
+956
+01:01:11,098 --> 01:01:13,225
+I don't need
+to explain it to anyone.
+
+957
+01:01:15,269 --> 01:01:17,430
+But...
+
+958
+01:01:17,504 --> 01:01:20,029
+You see, it's rendered out
+in this style
+
+959
+01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:24,476
+because studies have shown
+that consumers are most responsive
+
+960
+01:01:24,544 --> 01:01:28,640
+to 3-D animation right now,
+particularly in developing cultures.
+
+961
+01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:32,779
+So, as you can see,
+it goes through a piping system,
+
+962
+01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,514
+and this isn't unusual.
+
+963
+01:01:34,588 --> 01:01:38,080
+We do this for oil.
+We could do this for food, as well.
+
+964
+01:01:38,158 --> 01:01:42,288
+And, as you can see,
+it goes back up through the plumbing...
+
+965
+01:01:42,362 --> 01:01:45,354
+and emerges in a McDonald's.
+
+966
+01:01:45,432 --> 01:01:49,095
+Now, the part of this video that isn't
+completed yet is the filtering process.
+
+967
+01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:53,663
+There will be
+a very well-rendered filtering...
+
+968
+01:02:04,518 --> 01:02:08,079
+As you can see--this might answer
+somebody's question from before,
+
+969
+01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,715
+but at the McDonald's
+in a developing country
+
+970
+01:02:10,791 --> 01:02:12,782
+and, in fact,
+in this country as well,
+
+971
+01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:15,350
+you would be able to choose--
+the number one, number two,
+
+972
+01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,294
+number three,
+number four, number five
+
+973
+01:02:17,364 --> 01:02:19,992
+would no longer refer
+to combinations of food,
+
+974
+01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:23,628
+but rather just the number of times
+the product had been recycled.
+
+975
+01:02:25,472 --> 01:02:29,067
+We're lucky to be able to partner with
+the World Trade Organization which,
+
+976
+01:02:29,142 --> 01:02:31,042
+you know, has slightly different goals.
+
+977
+01:02:31,111 --> 01:02:34,103
+Of course, McDonald's goals
+are to profit and grow,
+
+978
+01:02:34,181 --> 01:02:35,842
+and we hope that we can provide
+
+979
+01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:38,407
+a nutritious and tasty product
+in the process.
+
+980
+01:02:38,485 --> 01:02:42,649
+Our goals are to help McDonald's profit
+and grow, and all other corporations.
+
+981
+01:02:42,723 --> 01:02:45,556
+I think you guys--
+like, the WTO--
+
+982
+01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:49,686
+is kind of lacking kind of, like,
+a human element, you know?
+
+983
+01:02:49,763 --> 01:02:55,633
+Like...if you saw--
+have you ever seen starving people?
+
+984
+01:02:55,702 --> 01:02:57,533
+In pictures. Yes.
+
+985
+01:02:58,405 --> 01:03:01,465
+So, tell me, if you saw
+somebody starving to death,
+
+986
+01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,702
+you would probably think a lot--
+
+987
+01:03:03,777 --> 01:03:08,976
+like, that would kind of hit you
+in a sensitive place to say,
+
+988
+01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:13,884
+"Oh, maybe markets and money
+and this and that don't really mean as much,
+
+989
+01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:16,946
+and, actually, feeding people
+means a little bit more."
+
+990
+01:03:17,024 --> 01:03:19,959
+Well, it is true that there's
+a personal side of it that--
+
+991
+01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,188
+I have to say, in the WTO
+
+992
+01:03:22,262 --> 01:03:25,925
+there are questions that we have
+about this as human beings,
+
+993
+01:03:25,999 --> 01:03:28,797
+but we're not as subject--
+
+994
+01:03:28,869 --> 01:03:30,860
+we have a kind
+of firmer grasp on theory.
+
+995
+01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:33,770
+We are able, fortunately,
+
+996
+01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,674
+to simply direct world trade
+in a much more theoretical way...
+
+997
+01:03:37,744 --> 01:03:41,407
+in collaboration with our colleagues
+at the largest corporations.
+
+998
+01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:47,317
+So...you know. Yes, probably,
+if I went to these countries,
+
+999
+01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:53,121
+I'd feel...l'd think about things
+a little differently, perhaps.
+
+1000
+01:03:53,193 --> 01:03:56,685
+But, at the same time, I don't think
+I would forget all my schooling.
+
+1001
+01:03:56,763 --> 01:03:59,596
+I don't think I would forget
+all these theories and so on.
+
+1002
+01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:02,999
+So, perhaps one day I'll do that.
+
+1003
+01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:05,368
+This is a money-maker, correct?
+
+1004
+01:04:05,439 --> 01:04:09,307
+Yes. Well, it's a money-maker,
+starvation-solver, sure.
+
+1005
+01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:12,812
+How much did McDonald's pay you to
+come here and speak this garbage to us?
+
+1006
+01:04:12,879 --> 01:04:15,973
+Did I see a mouse with an ear
+growing out of its back?
+
+1007
+01:04:16,049 --> 01:04:19,382
+How are you going to get around
+the cultural and legal implications
+
+1008
+01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,354
+of cannibalism and basically
+asking us to recycle shit?
+
+1009
+01:04:51,151 --> 01:04:55,178
+The reality is that we already
+treat people in the Third World
+
+1010
+01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,723
+far worse than we treat
+our domestic animals.
+
+1011
+01:04:57,791 --> 01:05:02,125
+That's--that's not saying it's right.
+It's just saying that's the reality.
+
+1012
+01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,902
+Well, after thinking about it
+for a little while,
+
+1013
+01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,306
+it seems the Plattsburgh lecture
+just went great,
+
+1014
+01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:20,210
+and it went exactly the way we
+originally expected these lectures to work,
+
+1015
+01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,545
+which is that, at a certain point,
+it was like a light bulb's going off
+
+1016
+01:05:23,617 --> 01:05:26,017
+in the heads of the different people
+in the audience,
+
+1017
+01:05:26,086 --> 01:05:29,681
+and they were realizing that it
+was just too crazy to be real,
+
+1018
+01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:31,917
+and yet it was
+sort of based in reality.
+
+1019
+01:05:31,992 --> 01:05:35,428
+So, you know,
+they started throwing globes at us,
+
+1020
+01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:37,759
+they got angry,
+they got frustrated.
+
+1021
+01:05:37,831 --> 01:05:40,095
+It worked exactly
+like we thought it would.
+
+1022
+01:05:43,837 --> 01:05:45,270
+They don't ask if you believe in it.
+
+1023
+01:05:45,338 --> 01:05:48,432
+You don't get to vote
+on World Trade Organization treaties.
+
+1024
+01:05:48,508 --> 01:05:51,102
+They don't let you vote on it.
+They don't give you a say.
+
+1025
+01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:54,079
+They let you listen
+to the one-sided propaganda.
+
+1026
+01:05:54,147 --> 01:05:57,639
+Name me a single columnist in America
+who doesn't stand up and cheer
+
+1027
+01:05:57,717 --> 01:05:59,878
+under the banner
+of so-called free trade.
+
+1028
+01:05:59,953 --> 01:06:01,511
+There's no public discussion,
+
+1029
+01:06:01,588 --> 01:06:05,422
+there's no dissent
+in any of the political parties.
+
+1030
+01:06:05,492 --> 01:06:08,655
+There's no debate,
+there's no discussion, there's no vote.
+
+1031
+01:06:08,728 --> 01:06:13,665
+In fact, the only nation
+which has called for a vote is Brazil,
+
+1032
+01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:18,397
+which is saying that it
+will not sign any more trade treaties
+
+1033
+01:06:18,471 --> 01:06:20,598
+without a plebiscite of its people.
+
+1034
+01:06:20,674 --> 01:06:24,337
+And the world trade barons
+are losing their damn minds
+
+1035
+01:06:24,411 --> 01:06:29,246
+trying to prevent this type of democracy
+from spreading planet-wide,
+
+1036
+01:06:29,316 --> 01:06:32,979
+'cause once people know what this stuff
+is about and get to vote on it,
+
+1037
+01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,783
+no one's gonna vote themselves
+into poverty.
+
+1038
+01:06:39,826 --> 01:06:42,488
+Here we go.
+"Australia country code."
+
+1039
+01:06:45,332 --> 01:06:47,129
+Australia, 61.
+It's 61.
+
+1040
+01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,360
+Sixty-one.
+
+1041
+01:06:53,473 --> 01:06:57,466
+Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat
+from the WTO.
+
+1042
+01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,206
+- <i>Hello. how are you?</i>
+- Good, thanks. How are you?
+
+1043
+01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,443
+<i>- Where are you now?</i>
+- I'm in New York at the moment.
+
+1044
+01:07:03,516 --> 01:07:05,677
+<i>- In New York, are you?</i>
+- Yes.
+
+1045
+01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:11,156
+Kinnithrung Sprat just called the person
+who's coordinating Sprat's visit.
+
+1046
+01:07:11,224 --> 01:07:15,160
+I'm due in Hong Kong
+the week after this,
+
+1047
+01:07:15,228 --> 01:07:17,219
+and that date is firm,
+
+1048
+01:07:17,297 --> 01:07:22,030
+but my travel to Australia
+is as yet not firm. Yeah.
+
+1049
+01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,265
+She's actually, it turns out,
+been e-mailing all these people
+
+1050
+01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:27,670
+and basically calling journalists
+
+1051
+01:07:27,741 --> 01:07:29,936
+and getting people
+to attend his lecture.
+
+1052
+01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:34,174
+She fully expects him to attend because
+she had spoken to Hildegard West,
+
+1053
+01:07:34,247 --> 01:07:37,375
+Sprat's assistant,
+and Hildegard West had told her
+
+1054
+01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:40,510
+that everything was on
+and Sprat was definitely going.
+
+1055
+01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:43,078
+So now we've just decided
+we really have to go
+
+1056
+01:07:43,156 --> 01:07:46,592
+to honor this arrangement
+with Australia.
+
+1057
+01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,652
+So it's back on now
+after we totally thought it was off.
+
+1058
+01:07:49,729 --> 01:07:53,790
+And instead of giving this lecture that
+we've been planning for, like, nine months,
+
+1059
+01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:57,803
+we're gonna, like, you know,
+just disband the WTO.
+
+1060
+01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,503
+Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes
+that actually are reasonable?
+
+1061
+01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:06,909
+They just don't look like dress shoes.
+They look like wrestling shoes.
+
+1062
+01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,414
+There are no shoes here
+for you. Never mind.
+
+1063
+01:08:09,482 --> 01:08:11,450
+No. Shoes are out.
+
+1064
+01:08:11,518 --> 01:08:12,507
+A tie.
+
+1065
+01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:14,915
+Around, then...
+
+1066
+01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:18,580
+Wait--did you try this?
+
+1067
+01:08:20,193 --> 01:08:21,455
+Yeah.
+
+1068
+01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:27,627
+I did a set of these with inkjet,
+and they just don't look as real.
+
+1069
+01:08:27,701 --> 01:08:29,635
+Something about them.
+They look...
+
+1070
+01:08:29,703 --> 01:08:31,637
+- These look perfect.
+- ...kind of handmade.
+
+1071
+01:08:32,305 --> 01:08:34,136
+I printed off some letterhead for you.
+
+1072
+01:08:34,207 --> 01:08:35,868
+- Nice.
+- You guys already saw that.
+
+1073
+01:08:35,942 --> 01:08:38,308
+- And I just kept it real simple...
+- It's perfect.
+
+1074
+01:08:38,378 --> 01:08:40,778
+...so that it would show up well
+on the fax.
+
+1075
+01:08:41,748 --> 01:08:44,046
+That is the most ridiculous photo.
+
+1076
+01:08:44,117 --> 01:08:48,349
+There's something really weird
+about this maniacal public relations guy.
+
+1077
+01:08:48,421 --> 01:08:51,322
+- A little magnetic strip on the back.
+- A logo of the WTO.
+
+1078
+01:08:51,391 --> 01:08:52,585
+Really beautiful.
+
+1079
+01:08:54,327 --> 01:08:57,490
+You know what I did?
+I went to Google...
+
+1080
+01:08:57,564 --> 01:09:02,399
+and I went to Google image search
+and I typed in, "I.D. card."
+
+1081
+01:09:02,469 --> 01:09:05,961
+And you wouldn't believe
+the number of pictures of I.D. cards
+
+1082
+01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,870
+that show up on the Web.
+
+1083
+01:09:07,941 --> 01:09:10,808
+And I just went through
+and took a little bit from each one.
+
+1084
+01:09:10,877 --> 01:09:14,040
+I said, "All right, this one's got
+a little bar code at the bottom,
+
+1085
+01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:16,344
+and this one uses
+the logo over here."
+
+1086
+01:09:16,416 --> 01:09:18,407
+That is so nice.
+
+1087
+01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:32,190
+- I know.
+- Wow. Airplane.
+
+1088
+01:09:34,534 --> 01:09:36,229
+Where's the rental car area?
+
+1089
+01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,313
+No, I don't know.
+I'm just really nervous
+
+1090
+01:09:58,391 --> 01:10:01,883
+'cause this feels different from all
+the other things that we've done.
+
+1091
+01:10:01,961 --> 01:10:08,696
+It's not like the same kind of play,
+fun, crazy, weird, impossible stuff.
+
+1092
+01:10:08,768 --> 01:10:10,258
+This is sincere, you know.
+
+1093
+01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,203
+It's about replacing the WTO
+with something better.
+
+1094
+01:10:13,273 --> 01:10:16,333
+- Do you think that satire is more fun?
+- Yeah, definitely.
+
+1095
+01:10:16,409 --> 01:10:19,640
+I got this feeling that it's--
+for some reason--
+
+1096
+01:10:19,712 --> 01:10:22,203
+maybe it's less fun to be sincere.
+
+1097
+01:10:22,282 --> 01:10:24,273
+But it is less fun, isn't it?
+
+1098
+01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,181
+In a way, yeah.
+
+1099
+01:10:26,252 --> 01:10:31,849
+Maybe it's more fun
+to be satirical than serious.
+
+1100
+01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:33,085
+Yeah.
+
+1101
+01:10:37,697 --> 01:10:39,790
+It's about 9:00 in the morning,
+
+1102
+01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,426
+and this is the big day
+for Kinnithrung Sprat
+
+1103
+01:10:42,502 --> 01:10:44,402
+to go talk to CPA Australia
+
+1104
+01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,632
+and close down the WTO.
+
+1105
+01:10:46,706 --> 01:10:51,905
+It's kind of an exciting day for us
+'cause we finally get to shut it down.
+
+1106
+01:11:06,226 --> 01:11:10,720
+I'm writing the local phone number
+for this cell phone on the business cards.
+
+1107
+01:11:10,797 --> 01:11:13,732
+So if we give these to journalists
+or anybody else
+
+1108
+01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,533
+who wants to contact Mr. Sprat--they'll be
+able to do it in the next couple days.
+
+1109
+01:11:20,974 --> 01:11:23,135
+We have to leave
+in ten minutes, though.
+
+1110
+01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:24,642
+I know.
+
+1111
+01:11:24,711 --> 01:11:27,544
+I'm just gonna do
+as little as possible.
+
+1112
+01:11:30,683 --> 01:11:34,175
+Okay, let's just go by there.
+We have some time yet.
+
+1113
+01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:36,586
+Let's just keep walking.
+Just walk straight.
+
+1114
+01:11:36,723 --> 01:11:40,716
+Don't look.
+Don't turn left. Don't...
+
+1115
+01:11:40,793 --> 01:11:43,819
+Hey, no. Don't.
+Don't do that.
+
+1116
+01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:46,825
+Answer it.
+
+1117
+01:11:47,767 --> 01:11:49,598
+Hello, Michael Bonanno here.
+
+1118
+01:11:52,505 --> 01:11:54,063
+Hi, Jane. How are you?
+
+1119
+01:11:55,675 --> 01:11:59,111
+All right, then. I guess
+we'll see you in just a few minutes.
+
+1120
+01:11:59,178 --> 01:12:01,510
+And we just come up
+to level three, then?
+
+1121
+01:12:01,581 --> 01:12:04,846
+Great. Thank you very much.
+All right. Bye-bye.
+
+1122
+01:12:04,918 --> 01:12:06,010
+Run!
+
+1123
+01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,687
+Oh, wait. Shit!
+This is the building!
+
+1124
+01:12:13,192 --> 01:12:14,887
+- Thank you for coming.
+- Thank you for having us.
+
+1125
+01:12:14,961 --> 01:12:18,692
+Sorry for the confusion
+and problems and everything else.
+
+1126
+01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,926
+It's to be expected
+these days, I think.
+
+1127
+01:12:21,901 --> 01:12:26,167
+No. Thanks for going out of your way
+to arrange this. This is really terrific.
+
+1128
+01:12:31,811 --> 01:12:34,336
+Thank you all for coming.
+I'd like to...
+
+1129
+01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:38,983
+I'd like to thank the organizers
+for going out of their way
+
+1130
+01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:43,853
+to create this panel,
+this luncheon,
+
+1131
+01:12:43,923 --> 01:12:48,019
+in the face of some odds--the conference
+having been canceled, of course.
+
+1132
+01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:50,756
+And I'd especially like to begin
+
+1133
+01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,664
+by apologizing for a rather sudden
+change in the program,
+
+1134
+01:12:54,734 --> 01:13:01,003
+consequent upon a rather dramatic
+development in Geneva yesterday.
+
+1135
+01:13:01,074 --> 01:13:04,908
+I originally intended to transmit today
+an upbeat report
+
+1136
+01:13:04,978 --> 01:13:09,915
+on some new technologies that affect
+agribusiness in a global sense.
+
+1137
+01:13:09,983 --> 01:13:14,920
+Instead, I find myself the messenger
+of some rather disturbing news.
+
+1138
+01:13:14,988 --> 01:13:17,718
+The WTO will be issuing
+a public statement
+
+1139
+01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:19,985
+in detail by the end of the week.
+
+1140
+01:13:20,059 --> 01:13:22,050
+But the die has been cast.
+
+1141
+01:13:22,128 --> 01:13:24,289
+As of September 2002,
+
+1142
+01:13:24,364 --> 01:13:26,958
+having seen the effects of policies
+
+1143
+01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:30,560
+whose only intent was to bring
+greater prosperity and peace,
+
+1144
+01:13:30,637 --> 01:13:35,438
+the World Trade Organization,
+in its present form, will cease to exist.
+
+1145
+01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,866
+Over the next two years,
+
+1146
+01:13:37,944 --> 01:13:43,007
+we at the WTO will endeavor to re-found
+our organization along different lines,
+
+1147
+01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:47,143
+based in a different understanding
+of the purposes of world trade.
+
+1148
+01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,178
+The new organization will have
+as its foundation and basis
+
+1149
+01:13:51,257 --> 01:13:55,091
+the United Nations'
+Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
+
+1150
+01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:59,564
+upon which we feel
+we can make a good foundation
+
+1151
+01:13:59,632 --> 01:14:02,294
+to ensuring that the organization
+will have human
+
+1152
+01:14:02,368 --> 01:14:05,303
+rather than business interests
+as its bottom line.
+
+1153
+01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,202
+My reaction was one of total surprise.
+
+1154
+01:14:07,273 --> 01:14:09,104
+We were expecting
+a speech more based
+
+1155
+01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:13,111
+on what the World Trade Organization
+does in its relation to Australian trade.
+
+1156
+01:14:13,179 --> 01:14:16,171
+It sort of blew me out of the water
+when the announcement was made
+
+1157
+01:14:16,249 --> 01:14:19,980
+that the World Trade Organization
+is significantly reinventing itself
+
+1158
+01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:25,787
+to focus on issues relating to people
+as opposed to economics--
+
+1159
+01:14:25,858 --> 01:14:28,691
+something that hopefully could be
+of significant benefit
+
+1160
+01:14:28,761 --> 01:14:33,095
+to the poor and needy throughout
+the world in all developing countries.
+
+1161
+01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:37,330
+The U.N. estimates that poor countries--
+the poorest countries in the world--
+
+1162
+01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:43,069
+lose approximately $2 billion a day
+because of unjust trade rules,
+
+1163
+01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:46,407
+many of them instituted
+by our own organization.
+
+1164
+01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,743
+And this is 14 times the amount
+
+1165
+01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:51,545
+that they receive in aid
+from developed countries.
+
+1166
+01:14:52,552 --> 01:14:57,216
+I thought the speech itself was compelling
+in terms of its information.
+
+1167
+01:14:57,290 --> 01:15:02,887
+I was astounded to find that they're
+actually gonna dismantle the WTO.
+
+1168
+01:15:02,962 --> 01:15:07,695
+I was also amazed to see that there was
+a mission that perhaps had failed.
+
+1169
+01:15:07,767 --> 01:15:11,100
+It's gonna have a huge effect
+on international business
+
+1170
+01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:14,333
+and particularly for us
+as an organization, I feel.
+
+1171
+01:15:14,407 --> 01:15:18,138
+The hardest thing, I find,
+will be the balance that, let's say,
+
+1172
+01:15:18,211 --> 01:15:20,736
+the U.S., E.U., and Japan--
+
+1173
+01:15:20,813 --> 01:15:24,544
+in terms of being major components
+of the world economy--
+
+1174
+01:15:24,617 --> 01:15:28,451
+the effect--will they really change
+in terms of this new organization,
+
+1175
+01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,183
+and will there actually
+be genuine change
+
+1176
+01:15:31,257 --> 01:15:34,590
+and perhaps a benefit
+to the world's poorest countries?
+
+1177
+01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,754
+I must admit I'm a cynic
+with regards to that occurring.
+
+1178
+01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,095
+Liberalization--
+the process of liberalization
+
+1179
+01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,226
+often enables
+the knowledge of the poor
+
+1180
+01:15:43,302 --> 01:15:47,170
+to be converted into the property
+of global corporations.
+
+1181
+01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,607
+Specific statistics are rather shocking.
+
+1182
+01:15:50,676 --> 01:15:59,277
+Out of 26,000 patents
+applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001,
+
+1183
+01:15:59,352 --> 01:16:03,186
+only 31 were from residents of Africa.
+
+1184
+01:16:03,256 --> 01:16:06,089
+The rest were from residents
+of first world countries.
+
+1185
+01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,220
+31 out of 26,000 patent applications.
+
+1186
+01:16:10,296 --> 01:16:11,957
+It wasn't what I was expecting.
+
+1187
+01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,022
+I was expecting something
+on agribusiness
+
+1188
+01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,591
+and what
+the World Trade Organization does.
+
+1189
+01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:20,264
+But I'd have to say
+I believe it's fairly positive
+
+1190
+01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:24,070
+because I think that,
+as the gentleman said,
+
+1191
+01:16:24,143 --> 01:16:27,510
+the strong are getting stronger,
+and the weak are getting weaker.
+
+1192
+01:16:27,580 --> 01:16:29,411
+And you can't let that keep on going.
+
+1193
+01:16:29,482 --> 01:16:31,313
+Even we notice it here in Australia
+
+1194
+01:16:31,384 --> 01:16:34,979
+with some of the trade arrangements
+that are made.
+
+1195
+01:16:35,054 --> 01:16:37,318
+If you're powerful,
+you can get whatever you like,
+
+1196
+01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:39,221
+and if you're not, you can't.
+
+1197
+01:16:39,292 --> 01:16:42,784
+The world, with the population we've got,
+can't keep going that way.
+
+1198
+01:16:42,862 --> 01:16:44,454
+So I think it was fairly positive,
+
+1199
+01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,192
+and I think it's a very brave decision
+by an organization
+
+1200
+01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,758
+to admit that they've been going down
+the wrong track and dissolve themselves
+
+1201
+01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:54,637
+and start to look for something different.
+And I think it's fantastic.
+
+1202
+01:16:54,707 --> 01:16:57,039
+Disparity is growing
+between rich and poor.
+
+1203
+01:16:57,109 --> 01:16:59,600
+The richest fifth have 80%
+of the world's income,
+
+1204
+01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,011
+and the poorest fifth have 1%.
+
+1205
+01:17:02,081 --> 01:17:04,140
+This gap--we all know this figure,
+
+1206
+01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:09,814
+but we don't always remember that
+this gap has actually doubled since 1960.
+
+1207
+01:17:09,889 --> 01:17:13,222
+More and more thinkers
+are therefore noting
+
+1208
+01:17:13,292 --> 01:17:16,784
+that there is no evidence
+that liberalization favors growth
+
+1209
+01:17:16,863 --> 01:17:18,592
+or benefits the poor.
+
+1210
+01:17:18,664 --> 01:17:21,326
+I think we're all generally aware
+of increases in poverty
+
+1211
+01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,494
+and low living standards and issues
+faced by developing countries.
+
+1212
+01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:28,734
+And what Mr. Sprat had to say today
+really is a terrific sign of hope
+
+1213
+01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:31,834
+for what I think we all aspire to,
+
+1214
+01:17:31,911 --> 01:17:35,847
+and that's a global economy
+that benefits all people.
+
+1215
+01:17:44,056 --> 01:17:47,958
+Now, after protected, protracted,
+and detailed review
+
+1216
+01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:51,793
+of current trade policy,
+the World Trade Organization has decided
+
+1217
+01:17:51,864 --> 01:17:54,856
+to affect a cessation of all operations
+
+1218
+01:17:54,934 --> 01:17:57,425
+to be accomplished
+over the next four months
+
+1219
+01:17:57,503 --> 01:18:00,939
+culminating by the end of September...
+
+1220
+01:18:01,007 --> 01:18:03,840
+Well, I think that the Yes Men
+
+1221
+01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:05,639
+have kind of played out their course
+
+1222
+01:18:05,711 --> 01:18:08,874
+in relation to the World Trade
+Organization for the moment.
+
+1223
+01:18:08,948 --> 01:18:12,145
+You never know when we
+might get another invitation.
+
+1224
+01:18:12,218 --> 01:18:17,520
+We were lucky to be able to provide a sort
+of sense of closure by ending the WTO.
+
+1225
+01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,582
+We also hope that other people
+will just start doing the same things
+
+1226
+01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:22,491
+in all kinds of different contexts--
+
+1227
+01:18:22,561 --> 01:18:28,022
+impersonating whoever holds power
+that needs to be criticized.
+
+1228
+01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,160
+So if the opportunity arises,
+we're just gonna keep doing it.
+
+1229
+01:18:31,237 --> 01:18:34,638
+We're gonna go and...
+be the Yes Men again,
+
+1230
+01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,642
+or I should say,
+be the WTO again in another event.
+
+1231
+01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,543
+The future's bright for the Yes Men.
+
+1232
+01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,549
+The future of the world
+is a different story.
+
+1233
+01:19:19,185 --> 01:19:22,586
+No, this isn't the way
+he usually dresses.
+
+1234
+01:19:22,655 --> 01:19:26,182
+He works for the World Trade
+Organization--you know, the WTO.
+
+1235
+01:19:26,258 --> 01:19:29,421
+He works--
+see, we're at a conference,
+
+1236
+01:19:29,495 --> 01:19:33,261
+and he's demonstrating
+a new kind of technology.
+
+1237
+01:19:33,332 --> 01:19:38,292
+This is--well, it's a device
+to measure employee working
+
+1238
+01:19:38,371 --> 01:19:40,498
+in less developed countries.
+
+1239
+01:19:40,573 --> 01:19:44,304
+There's a thing here where...
+
+1240
+01:19:44,377 --> 01:19:48,279
+on this screen I can see...
+
+1241
+01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:51,316
+See, he watches people working there.
+
+1242
+01:19:51,384 --> 01:19:54,444
+And they have little devices
+that give them shocks.
+
+1243
+01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,511
+It's just regular fabric.
+
+1244
+01:19:56,589 --> 01:19:59,922
+In the future,
+it'll be sensitive-smart fabric.
+
+1245
+01:19:59,992 --> 01:20:01,584
+It's a little hot, but...
+
+1246
+01:20:02,862 --> 01:20:04,193
+That one looks better.
+
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+1
+00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:35,371
+Jeez, this is terrible.
+
+2
+00:00:35,449 --> 00:00:37,508
+It's the stupidest.
+I can't--
+
+3
+00:00:39,052 --> 00:00:41,987
+It's an hour's difference.
+The time zone is different here.
+
+4
+00:00:42,989 --> 00:00:46,584
+Fuck. It's unbelievable.
+How the fuck can that happen?
+
+5
+00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:48,150
+Okay. Here.
+
+6
+00:00:48,228 --> 00:00:50,492
+Okay, there. That's done.
+Now what?
+
+7
+00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:51,895
+Okay. Got it. Okay.
+
+8
+00:00:51,965 --> 00:00:53,455
+Pull it up.
+
+9
+00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,967
+Okay, now let's get your...
+
+10
+00:01:03,710 --> 00:01:07,373
+A few years ago, we wanted to...
+
+11
+00:01:07,447 --> 00:01:11,042
+try to help out with some activist's
+anti-corporate activities.
+
+12
+00:01:11,118 --> 00:01:14,281
+And we heard about this website
+called rtmark.com.
+
+13
+00:01:14,354 --> 00:01:16,584
+And we went there, and they--
+
+14
+00:01:16,656 --> 00:01:19,489
+they handed us a domain name--
+gwbush.com--
+
+15
+00:01:19,559 --> 00:01:21,686
+and asked us if we might like
+to make a website
+
+16
+00:01:21,762 --> 00:01:23,821
+that was critical of George Bush.
+
+17
+00:01:23,897 --> 00:01:27,628
+Because George Bush's real
+domain name was georgewbush.com.
+
+18
+00:01:27,701 --> 00:01:31,296
+And this was 1999,
+so it was just during the campaign
+
+19
+00:01:31,371 --> 00:01:33,498
+when he was beginning
+to run for president.
+
+20
+00:01:33,573 --> 00:01:36,167
+And we didn't really know
+quite what to do,
+
+21
+00:01:36,243 --> 00:01:38,575
+so we went to Bush's website
+and looked at it.
+
+22
+00:01:38,645 --> 00:01:41,375
+And it turned out to be full
+of strange hypocrisies, like,
+
+23
+00:01:41,448 --> 00:01:44,508
+for example, he called himself
+"The environmental governor of Texas,"
+
+24
+00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:47,678
+but we looked a little closer
+at his record and found out
+
+25
+00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:51,212
+that he had actually created
+the most polluted state in the country
+
+26
+00:01:51,291 --> 00:01:54,089
+because he dismantled
+the Clean Air Laws while he was there.
+
+27
+00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:56,891
+And, actually, that's, I guess,
+what he's doing now nationally.
+
+28
+00:01:56,963 --> 00:01:59,158
+So we thought,
+"Well, this kind of hypocrisy
+
+29
+00:01:59,232 --> 00:02:02,395
+we can easily poke fun at
+by making a satire website."
+
+30
+00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:05,199
+And we made this satire website
+that looked exactly like Bush's
+
+31
+00:02:05,272 --> 00:02:07,604
+except for a few key differences.
+
+32
+00:02:07,674 --> 00:02:10,165
+Like there was a photo on the banner--
+
+33
+00:02:10,243 --> 00:02:14,976
+instead of him and his wife
+in front of the capitol building in Texas,
+
+34
+00:02:15,048 --> 00:02:17,915
+we showed him pointing the finger
+at black people.
+
+35
+00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:21,579
+And this seemed to get him
+a little bit angry.
+
+36
+00:02:21,655 --> 00:02:23,589
+So the Bush campaign
+tried to shut us down
+
+37
+00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:25,648
+by sending us
+a cease and desist letter
+
+38
+00:02:25,725 --> 00:02:28,125
+and by complaining
+to the Federal Election Commission.
+
+39
+00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:30,459
+But we were able
+to just take those threats
+
+40
+00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:32,964
+and send them to the media.
+
+41
+00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,092
+And immediately the <i>New York Times</i>
+wrote an article,
+
+42
+00:02:35,168 --> 00:02:37,102
+and there were a whole bunch
+of other articles.
+
+43
+00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:39,832
+In fact, one reporter
+read these articles and,
+
+44
+00:02:39,906 --> 00:02:42,238
+at a press conference,
+asked Bush,
+
+45
+00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:45,904
+"So, what about this website--
+gwbush.com--what do you think of that?"
+
+46
+00:03:10,937 --> 00:03:12,268
+So it was all over the place.
+
+47
+00:03:12,339 --> 00:03:13,931
+A lot of people read about it,
+
+48
+00:03:14,007 --> 00:03:18,000
+including a guy who had another
+domain name called gatt.org.
+
+49
+00:03:18,078 --> 00:03:21,241
+And, of course, GATT is the
+Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade,
+
+50
+00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:24,477
+and it's the predecessor agreement
+to the World Trade Organization.
+
+51
+00:03:24,551 --> 00:03:26,951
+And he said,
+"If you could do this for Bush,
+
+52
+00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,955
+then maybe you can
+also do this for the WTO."
+
+53
+00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:36,491
+The WTO is supposed to be
+sort of a United Nations of commerce,
+
+54
+00:03:36,563 --> 00:03:40,727
+a conglomeration
+of all these countries in the world...
+
+55
+00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,395
+that get together every now and then
+to discuss trade policies
+
+56
+00:03:44,471 --> 00:03:50,239
+in how exactly goods will be bought
+and sold throughout the world.
+
+57
+00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:54,076
+I'm sure, originally,
+the stated purpose of the WTO
+
+58
+00:03:54,147 --> 00:03:57,878
+was to help these countries
+who are developing
+
+59
+00:03:57,951 --> 00:04:02,479
+so that, you know, the world community
+can help raise them out of poverty.
+
+60
+00:04:02,556 --> 00:04:05,787
+In fact, what it's done is
+it's allowed large corporations
+
+61
+00:04:05,859 --> 00:04:09,351
+to go in and exploit these people
+even further
+
+62
+00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:12,296
+so that Americans
+become even wealthier
+
+63
+00:04:12,365 --> 00:04:16,699
+and the people in these countries
+continue to struggle to get by.
+
+64
+00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:22,402
+And I think that's--
+at this point it's upset quite a few people.
+
+65
+00:04:37,557 --> 00:04:40,458
+So I gotta try
+and remember where Sal lives.
+
+66
+00:04:40,527 --> 00:04:45,362
+It's a little bit complicated. There's, like,
+this snaking road up over the hills.
+
+67
+00:04:45,432 --> 00:04:47,263
+And who is Sal?
+
+68
+00:04:47,334 --> 00:04:51,202
+Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego,
+
+69
+00:04:51,271 --> 00:04:55,002
+and he moved to L.A.
+to work in the movie industry,
+
+70
+00:04:55,075 --> 00:04:59,239
+and that's why now he does,
+actually, costuming professionally.
+
+71
+00:04:59,312 --> 00:05:01,473
+He builds, like, weird suits
+
+72
+00:05:01,548 --> 00:05:04,813
+out of pretty much
+any material you can imagine.
+
+73
+00:05:04,884 --> 00:05:08,183
+And so, when we needed a costume,
+I knew who to call.
+
+74
+00:05:18,798 --> 00:05:20,129
+Yeah, this is it. Yeah.
+
+75
+00:05:22,435 --> 00:05:26,838
+I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually,
+as long as we're at it here.
+
+76
+00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:29,268
+- Yeah--I don't like it.
+- Okay.
+
+77
+00:05:29,342 --> 00:05:34,245
+It looks too much like sex stuff
+instead of--it's not very modern-looking.
+
+78
+00:05:34,314 --> 00:05:37,715
+Remember, this is the future.
+This isn't about, like, straps and stuff.
+
+79
+00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:40,150
+That's like dungeons and torture
+in the past.
+
+80
+00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,553
+The costume
+is a manager's leisure suit.
+
+81
+00:05:43,623 --> 00:05:46,285
+And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh,
+
+82
+00:05:46,359 --> 00:05:48,919
+the representative
+from the World Trade Organization,
+
+83
+00:05:48,995 --> 00:05:52,897
+is going to go and wear
+this breakaway business suit
+
+84
+00:05:52,966 --> 00:05:54,456
+that's gonna be pulled off of him
+
+85
+00:05:54,534 --> 00:05:57,128
+during the middle
+of the keynote address to the conference.
+
+86
+00:05:57,203 --> 00:06:01,435
+And then a big inflatable phallus
+is going to emerge from this golden suit,
+
+87
+00:06:01,508 --> 00:06:03,442
+and on the end of it is a TV screen
+
+88
+00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,775
+that he uses
+to manage sweatshops remotely.
+
+89
+00:06:08,048 --> 00:06:10,107
+The reason we got invited
+to these things
+
+90
+00:06:10,183 --> 00:06:12,413
+is we have a website
+called gatt.org.
+
+91
+00:06:12,485 --> 00:06:16,285
+The gatt.org website looks a lot
+like the WTO website,
+
+92
+00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:19,519
+but it is critical of the WTO.
+
+93
+00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:21,753
+Most people, though,
+who find gatt.org
+
+94
+00:06:21,828 --> 00:06:25,320
+by searching
+for the World Trade Organization...
+
+95
+00:06:25,398 --> 00:06:28,890
+will go without reading it
+and will send us e-mail directly.
+
+96
+00:06:28,968 --> 00:06:32,768
+So a lot of people ask us
+weird questions about tariffs and trade,
+
+97
+00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,239
+and we try to answer
+as accurately as we can.
+
+98
+00:06:35,308 --> 00:06:37,367
+And occasionally invitations come in
+
+99
+00:06:37,444 --> 00:06:41,175
+from official
+or quasi-official organizations
+
+100
+00:06:41,247 --> 00:06:44,648
+asking for opinions
+or asking us to attend a conference.
+
+101
+00:06:44,718 --> 00:06:48,381
+And so, when they ask, they really think
+they're talking to the WTO,
+
+102
+00:06:48,455 --> 00:06:52,516
+and we respond by giving them
+what we think they want--
+
+103
+00:06:52,592 --> 00:06:54,992
+which is the opinions of the WTO--
+
+104
+00:06:55,061 --> 00:06:57,222
+as accurately
+as we can represent them.
+
+105
+00:06:57,297 --> 00:06:59,959
+You know what I'm thinking,
+actually, looking at this...
+
+106
+00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:03,227
+is that maybe this is a zipper.
+
+107
+00:07:03,303 --> 00:07:04,361
+Yeah! Yeah, yeah.
+
+108
+00:07:04,437 --> 00:07:07,167
+Then he just unzips it
+and pulls the thing at the same time.
+
+109
+00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,105
+- That could be really good.
+- Because...
+
+110
+00:07:09,175 --> 00:07:13,168
+to have it burst out of the Velcro,
+it might not be strong enough to burst out,
+
+111
+00:07:13,246 --> 00:07:14,941
+and then he'd have to pull it.
+
+112
+00:07:15,348 --> 00:07:17,213
+Part of the thing
+that gives us the courage
+
+113
+00:07:17,283 --> 00:07:23,347
+to go to Tampere...
+with this really absurd suit
+
+114
+00:07:23,423 --> 00:07:26,415
+is that we already went
+to Salzburg, Austria, to represent
+
+115
+00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:30,486
+the World Trade Organization
+at a conference on tariffs and trade.
+
+116
+00:07:30,563 --> 00:07:35,762
+There, our representative--the same guy
+who is Hank Hardy Unruh here--
+
+117
+00:07:35,835 --> 00:07:38,770
+was Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer there.
+
+118
+00:07:38,838 --> 00:07:40,772
+And he gave a lecture that focused
+
+119
+00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,675
+on basically doing away with
+all customs in the name of free trade,
+
+120
+00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:49,306
+like getting rid of the <i>siesta</i>
+in Spain and Italy
+
+121
+00:07:49,382 --> 00:07:52,112
+so that business hours
+could be the same.
+
+122
+00:07:52,185 --> 00:07:55,313
+In Italy, on the other hand,
+you have a totally different situation,
+
+123
+00:07:55,388 --> 00:08:01,054
+in which sleep is...done during
+the day as much as at night almost.
+
+124
+00:08:01,127 --> 00:08:05,860
+And allowing people to sell their votes
+over the Internet to the highest bidder
+
+125
+00:08:05,932 --> 00:08:10,665
+so that the barriers to free trade
+and things like votes were out of the way.
+
+126
+00:08:10,737 --> 00:08:14,673
+One possible solution is being tested
+in the field of American politics
+
+127
+00:08:14,741 --> 00:08:19,508
+to streamline the grotesquely
+inefficient system of elections.
+
+128
+00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:24,573
+Vote-auction.com, in turn,
+employs only four people
+
+129
+00:08:24,651 --> 00:08:27,085
+to transmit not merely information,
+
+130
+00:08:27,153 --> 00:08:30,782
+but actual money
+directly to the consuming voter.
+
+131
+00:08:30,857 --> 00:08:37,854
+It's a--a forum for people voluntarily
+to offer their vote to the highest bidder.
+
+132
+00:08:37,931 --> 00:08:39,865
+And despite giving what we thought
+
+133
+00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,266
+was a lecture that would immediately
+get us booed off stage
+
+134
+00:08:43,336 --> 00:08:46,169
+or get Bichlbauer
+maybe even thrown in jail
+
+135
+00:08:46,239 --> 00:08:48,639
+because people would figure out
+he was an impostor,
+
+136
+00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,300
+the exact opposite happened.
+
+137
+00:08:50,376 --> 00:08:52,037
+Everybody was super polite.
+
+138
+00:08:52,111 --> 00:08:57,242
+It didn't seem like everybody even noticed
+that what he said was so absurd.
+
+139
+00:09:18,938 --> 00:09:20,269
+Well, so far...
+
+140
+00:09:21,708 --> 00:09:24,700
+...we thought Bichlbauer
+would be very extreme
+
+141
+00:09:24,777 --> 00:09:27,769
+and people would react to it
+and we'd get shut down,
+
+142
+00:09:27,847 --> 00:09:30,247
+and nothing of the sort happened.
+
+143
+00:09:30,316 --> 00:09:34,650
+So...this time we just have to really
+push it and make it totally extreme.
+
+144
+00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:37,053
+I mean, we keep trying
+to push things further
+
+145
+00:09:37,123 --> 00:09:43,062
+to try to really clarify the positions
+of the WTO to make them very legible.
+
+146
+00:09:43,129 --> 00:09:45,597
+It's one back,
+but this--this is good.
+
+147
+00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:56,798
+<i>Andy.</i>
+
+148
+00:09:59,045 --> 00:10:00,535
+It has a terrible siren.
+
+149
+00:10:06,119 --> 00:10:08,110
+I have to check the Web
+when we get upstairs.
+
+150
+00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:10,121
+Oh, my God. What are we
+gonna do about this--
+
+151
+00:10:10,189 --> 00:10:12,623
+we gotta watch the Patrick video.
+
+152
+00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:15,524
+It's weird stuff, isn't it?
+
+153
+00:10:16,863 --> 00:10:18,524
+That's one way of putting it.
+
+154
+00:10:18,598 --> 00:10:20,259
+It's really a problem.
+
+155
+00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:24,599
+It seems about the weirdest
+I've seen from him ever, I think.
+
+156
+00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,871
+It looks pretty good on this.
+
+157
+00:10:29,776 --> 00:10:31,038
+Yeah, it's all right.
+
+158
+00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:39,109
+What we have here is that we have
+our cyber Andy here
+
+159
+00:10:39,185 --> 00:10:42,120
+who's going to be wearing the suit.
+
+160
+00:10:42,188 --> 00:10:45,783
+And I'm going to be showing
+all the different ways
+
+161
+00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:50,693
+in which the Management Leisure Suit
+can be useful in industry today
+
+162
+00:10:50,763 --> 00:10:54,927
+and maximize leisure potential.
+
+163
+00:10:56,369 --> 00:10:59,634
+Sometimes I don't think they know
+what the hell to expect out of me.
+
+164
+00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,103
+What I'll come up with...
+
+165
+00:11:04,177 --> 00:11:09,240
+is frequently not exactly
+what they had in mind,
+
+166
+00:11:09,315 --> 00:11:12,580
+but it's...you know,
+
+167
+00:11:12,652 --> 00:11:16,816
+it fits in perfectly with what they're--
+what they're going to do.
+
+168
+00:11:17,623 --> 00:11:19,955
+Well, I came out
+of a corporate environment
+
+169
+00:11:20,026 --> 00:11:25,760
+and a company that I really gave,
+you know, a good bit of my soul to
+
+170
+00:11:25,832 --> 00:11:28,232
+over a long period of time progressively.
+
+171
+00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:31,429
+And there were a lot of downsizings
+and, of course,
+
+172
+00:11:31,504 --> 00:11:35,099
+the company I was with I thought
+was gonna take care of me.
+
+173
+00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:38,007
+And I realized
+that the bottom line is the bottom line,
+
+174
+00:11:38,077 --> 00:11:42,480
+and there really isn't any humanity
+in corporate structures,
+
+175
+00:11:42,548 --> 00:11:46,882
+so therefore I hope that maybe
+being part of the Yes Men
+
+176
+00:11:46,953 --> 00:11:51,686
+might, in some way, help raise issues
+about global work issues
+
+177
+00:11:51,758 --> 00:11:56,422
+and social issues that are being
+brought about by globalization, etcetera.
+
+178
+00:11:59,098 --> 00:12:01,157
+I grew up in the suburbs here,
+
+179
+00:12:01,234 --> 00:12:07,537
+and then I moved to Troy six years ago
+for a job at the university.
+
+180
+00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:11,976
+There's a place there called Rensselaer
+Polytechnic Institute, and I teach there.
+
+181
+00:12:12,045 --> 00:12:14,377
+I was moving back home, really,
+because I'd been away--
+
+182
+00:12:14,447 --> 00:12:17,416
+I'd been on the West Coast
+for about 12 years.
+
+183
+00:12:17,483 --> 00:12:18,643
+Wait, what is this?
+
+184
+00:12:18,718 --> 00:12:21,050
+This is--it's this...
+
+185
+00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,022
+...SimCopter hack.
+Here it is.
+
+186
+00:12:25,091 --> 00:12:27,889
+I wanted to watch this tape
+'cause this is the tape--
+
+187
+00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,726
+I've been cleaning out the archives,
+and I found this tape in there.
+
+188
+00:12:31,798 --> 00:12:34,892
+I met Andy through a friend, actually.
+A mutual friend.
+
+189
+00:12:34,967 --> 00:12:38,130
+Actually, two people
+that we both knew
+
+190
+00:12:38,204 --> 00:12:41,173
+suggested that me and Andy
+get in contact with one another
+
+191
+00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,572
+because we'd both
+done similar projects.
+
+192
+00:12:43,643 --> 00:12:47,977
+One of the jobs that I had was
+at this games company called Maxis
+
+193
+00:12:48,047 --> 00:12:49,776
+that makes SimCity.
+
+194
+00:12:49,849 --> 00:12:54,513
+One of the games they were making
+at the time was SimCopter.
+
+195
+00:12:54,587 --> 00:12:57,420
+I was in charge of the little people
+that run around in the game.
+
+196
+00:12:57,490 --> 00:13:00,948
+And I made them
+wearing nothing but swim trunks.
+
+197
+00:13:01,027 --> 00:13:04,428
+They'd all be boys, and they'd
+be running around kissing each other.
+
+198
+00:13:04,497 --> 00:13:08,092
+So all the people who ordered
+this very popular video game
+
+199
+00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:12,331
+suddenly were treated
+to a completely different spectacle.
+
+200
+00:13:12,405 --> 00:13:14,600
+So he got a lot
+of press attention for it,
+
+201
+00:13:14,674 --> 00:13:18,166
+and it was seen as a kind of--
+an activist kind of statement
+
+202
+00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:21,680
+about video games and the sort
+of macho nature of them.
+
+203
+00:13:21,747 --> 00:13:23,681
+It all involves
+the unexpected appearance
+
+204
+00:13:23,749 --> 00:13:27,150
+of some gay, kissing muscle men
+every Friday the 13th.
+
+205
+00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:30,053
+He's becoming a celebrity of sorts
+in the computer world--
+
+206
+00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:32,182
+especially the gay computer world.
+
+207
+00:13:32,258 --> 00:13:35,523
+And then I had done a project
+using Barbie dolls,
+
+208
+00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:39,031
+where we switched the voice boxes
+of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes.
+
+209
+00:13:39,098 --> 00:13:43,262
+<i>Troops! Attack that Cobra jet</i>
+<i>with heavy firepower!</i>
+
+210
+00:13:44,504 --> 00:13:48,998
+And that ended up in G.I. Joes that
+said things like, "I love to shop with you,"
+
+211
+00:13:49,075 --> 00:13:53,068
+and Barbie dolls that said things like,
+"Dead men tell no lies."
+
+212
+00:13:53,146 --> 00:13:56,240
+And we got them back
+on store shelves
+
+213
+00:13:56,315 --> 00:14:00,183
+all over the country in what we called
+our "Shop Giving Program."
+
+214
+00:14:00,253 --> 00:14:02,084
+We're like Santa Claus,
+only less radical,
+
+215
+00:14:02,155 --> 00:14:04,715
+because Santa Claus
+breaks into people's houses. We don't.
+
+216
+00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:07,156
+So that when kids
+got them at Christmas,
+
+217
+00:14:07,226 --> 00:14:08,955
+they were surprised to find their doll
+
+218
+00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,360
+saying something other
+than what they expected.
+
+219
+00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:15,423
+And the kids thought it was hilarious.
+They loved having these crazy dolls.
+
+220
+00:14:15,501 --> 00:14:16,991
+We sent out press releases,
+
+221
+00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:21,130
+so it was in the news on Christmas Day
+and for the week following.
+
+222
+00:14:21,207 --> 00:14:26,008
+It just went through every kind
+of media channel imaginable.
+
+223
+00:14:26,078 --> 00:14:28,842
+<i>- The B.L.O...</i>
+<i>- The Mission of the B.L.O...</i>
+
+224
+00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:32,146
+<i>The Barbie Liberation Organization--</i>
+<i>the B.L.O...</i>
+
+225
+00:14:32,218 --> 00:14:36,814
+<i>It was real funny 'cause it looks</i>
+<i>like, "Come on, fight me. Fight me!"</i>
+
+226
+00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:39,619
+<i>- Except it says...</i>
+<i>- I love school. Don't you?</i>
+
+227
+00:14:39,692 --> 00:14:41,023
+<i>Let's sing with the band tonight!</i>
+
+228
+00:14:41,093 --> 00:14:42,754
+Now we're--with the Yes Men,
+
+229
+00:14:42,828 --> 00:14:46,559
+we're calling that sort of basic idea
+"Identity Correction,"
+
+230
+00:14:46,632 --> 00:14:48,361
+like saying, these things--
+
+231
+00:14:48,434 --> 00:14:51,699
+these things that are not
+really presenting themselves honestly
+
+232
+00:14:51,771 --> 00:14:55,434
+or that hide something about their nature
+that's really scary,
+
+233
+00:14:55,508 --> 00:14:56,839
+we want to bring that out.
+
+234
+00:14:56,909 --> 00:14:59,241
+We want to show that.
+We want to demonstrate that.
+
+235
+00:14:59,312 --> 00:15:02,145
+And so, like for the WTO--
+
+236
+00:15:02,215 --> 00:15:04,046
+we think that the WTO
+
+237
+00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,778
+is doing all these terrible things
+that are hurting people
+
+238
+00:15:06,852 --> 00:15:08,843
+and they're saying the exact opposite.
+
+239
+00:15:08,921 --> 00:15:11,913
+And so we're interested
+in correcting their identity.
+
+240
+00:15:11,991 --> 00:15:15,483
+In the same way that an identity thief
+steals somebody's identity
+
+241
+00:15:15,561 --> 00:15:19,395
+in order to basically
+just engage in criminal practices,
+
+242
+00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:21,797
+we target people
+we see as criminals,
+
+243
+00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,461
+and we steal their identity
+to try to make them honest
+
+244
+00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,801
+or to try to present
+a more honest face.
+
+245
+00:15:26,872 --> 00:15:29,864
+And so...you know,
+I guess this whole thing
+
+246
+00:15:29,942 --> 00:15:32,433
+has its roots for both me and Andy
+
+247
+00:15:32,511 --> 00:15:34,843
+in stuff that we've been doing
+for a long time,
+
+248
+00:15:34,914 --> 00:15:38,577
+which is trying to create public spectacles
+that, in some kind of poetic way,
+
+249
+00:15:38,651 --> 00:15:43,179
+reveal something about our culture
+that's profoundly a problem.
+
+250
+00:15:58,371 --> 00:15:59,736
+That must be Sal.
+
+251
+00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:04,006
+- Oh, dude.
+- Are you okay?
+
+252
+00:16:04,076 --> 00:16:06,067
+I got fuckin' lost on that...
+
+253
+00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:07,476
+Oh, no.
+
+254
+00:16:09,515 --> 00:16:11,005
+It's been a long day.
+
+255
+00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:12,482
+Holy shit!
+
+256
+00:16:13,786 --> 00:16:18,723
+Well, I probably started it
+in June or July.
+
+257
+00:16:19,358 --> 00:16:23,124
+So, on and off
+for a good two to three months.
+
+258
+00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:27,131
+Just a couple more pieces
+of Velcro, and that'll really be it.
+
+259
+00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:30,691
+And, yeah, we're...
+at the end of the line.
+
+260
+00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:35,767
+Okay, look.
+So we're making a list here.
+
+261
+00:16:35,841 --> 00:16:38,571
+Wednesday we leave
+for Finland early,
+
+262
+00:16:38,644 --> 00:16:41,511
+so, Sunday...
+
+263
+00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,911
+make lecture.
+
+264
+00:16:42,982 --> 00:16:44,916
+Bigger?
+Oh, no. That's a big one.
+
+265
+00:16:44,984 --> 00:16:51,150
+PowerPoint...
+and then speech.
+
+266
+00:16:51,223 --> 00:16:52,281
+Finish.
+
+267
+00:17:04,403 --> 00:17:11,070
+It's 4:03 a.m., and I guess
+I'll just keep working until morning.
+
+268
+00:17:11,143 --> 00:17:13,475
+I feel...somewhat awake.
+
+269
+00:17:13,546 --> 00:17:16,538
+And then Andy can take over again.
+
+270
+00:17:17,983 --> 00:17:21,475
+We can do
+around-the-clock shifts, I guess.
+
+271
+00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:28,090
+I'm just trying to add a few slides
+into the PowerPoint here.
+
+272
+00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,690
+Because, actually, a lot of the things
+that business leaders of the world
+
+273
+00:17:34,767 --> 00:17:39,170
+say in relation to these issues
+are actually sort of very similar
+
+274
+00:17:39,238 --> 00:17:40,899
+to what Unruh Hank Hardy says,
+
+275
+00:17:40,973 --> 00:17:44,875
+even though maybe Unruh Hank Hardy
+is a little bit more frank about it.
+
+276
+00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:47,970
+And, in fact,
+when he talked to CNBC,
+
+277
+00:17:48,047 --> 00:17:49,378
+when he was debating,
+
+278
+00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:52,440
+an activist, Barry Coates,
+just sort of agreed with what he said
+
+279
+00:17:52,518 --> 00:17:56,352
+when he said that this is what
+the WTO does, and this is our position.
+
+280
+00:17:56,422 --> 00:18:01,086
+And Barry Coates said,
+"Well, that's funny. That's exactly right."
+
+281
+00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:09,090
+So...after Salzburg, we got an e-mail
+asking a representative of the WTO
+
+282
+00:18:09,168 --> 00:18:12,228
+to appear on CNBC
+MarketWrap Europe.
+
+283
+00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:18,971
+And the producer apparently didn't notice
+that gatt.org was not the WTO site.
+
+284
+00:18:19,044 --> 00:18:25,347
+And Granwyth Hulatberi, which is
+another name that Andy just came up with,
+
+285
+00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:28,012
+responded and, of course, said,
+
+286
+00:18:28,087 --> 00:18:31,579
+"Well, I'd be happy to go
+on CNBC MarketWrap."
+
+287
+00:18:31,657 --> 00:18:37,493
+And the producer wanted him to debate
+an anti-globalization protester.
+
+288
+00:18:37,563 --> 00:18:43,661
+If the WTO is serious about addressing
+the issues of world poverty,
+
+289
+00:18:43,736 --> 00:18:47,228
+it would do things
+completely differently than it is now.
+
+290
+00:18:47,306 --> 00:18:50,901
+Let me bring in Granwyth on that.
+Is that a fair point?
+
+291
+00:18:52,077 --> 00:18:56,480
+Well, of course it is, but I think Barry,
+as well as all the other protesters,
+
+292
+00:18:56,549 --> 00:19:01,646
+are simply, in a word, focused too much
+on reality and on facts and figures.
+
+293
+00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,212
+And I think I would have to say
+that this is a long-term problem
+
+294
+00:19:05,291 --> 00:19:07,782
+that comes down
+to a problem of education.
+
+295
+00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:12,354
+We have to find a way to convince
+perhaps not the protesters
+
+296
+00:19:12,431 --> 00:19:14,262
+but the protesters' children
+
+297
+00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:20,067
+to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman
+and Darwin and--and so on,
+
+298
+00:19:20,139 --> 00:19:23,074
+rather than what the protesters
+have been reared on--
+
+299
+00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:26,202
+Trotsky and Robespierre
+and Abbie Hoffman.
+
+300
+00:19:26,278 --> 00:19:30,271
+And I think that putting
+the direction of education,
+
+301
+00:19:30,349 --> 00:19:33,079
+being put into private hands--
+
+302
+00:19:33,152 --> 00:19:36,246
+a concentration of resources
+in the private sector--
+
+303
+00:19:36,322 --> 00:19:38,483
+will naturally lead to this result,
+
+304
+00:19:38,557 --> 00:19:41,048
+and we'll see
+the protesters' children being reared
+
+305
+00:19:41,126 --> 00:19:43,617
+with an entirely different
+set of concerns.
+
+306
+00:19:43,696 --> 00:19:45,357
+Let me bring you in on that, Barry.
+
+307
+00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:47,092
+Can--can I just say
+
+308
+00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,361
+that these kind of simplistic arguments
+
+309
+00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:53,098
+are really, I mean, too insulting
+to most people to believe.
+
+310
+00:19:53,172 --> 00:19:56,903
+The fact that we have a choice between
+Milton Friedman or Abbie Hoffman
+
+311
+00:19:56,976 --> 00:20:00,377
+for where we get our source
+of economic history and philosophy.
+
+312
+00:20:00,446 --> 00:20:03,438
+There are many, many thinkers
+from around the world--
+
+313
+00:20:03,516 --> 00:20:06,007
+just not those ones
+employed by the WTO--
+
+314
+00:20:06,085 --> 00:20:09,953
+that think the World Trade Organization
+policies are deeply damaging
+
+315
+00:20:10,022 --> 00:20:12,684
+for the development prospects
+of the poorest countries.
+
+316
+00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:14,419
+Let me go out to Granwyth.
+
+317
+00:20:15,961 --> 00:20:21,558
+Yes. Well, I wanted to speak
+to Granwyth--sorry--to Barry's point
+
+318
+00:20:21,634 --> 00:20:23,124
+that there are other thinkers.
+
+319
+00:20:23,202 --> 00:20:27,468
+Well, who actually has the power
+in the world, and so who is correct
+
+320
+00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,201
+in this kind of world view?
+
+321
+00:20:29,275 --> 00:20:31,607
+I mean, I think the answer is easy.
+
+322
+00:20:31,677 --> 00:20:35,511
+And if you look at the views
+held by myself, my organization,
+
+323
+00:20:35,581 --> 00:20:39,244
+and many, many
+of the decision-makers in the world--
+
+324
+00:20:39,318 --> 00:20:43,311
+the powerful people--they happen
+to coincide with what I'm explaining.
+
+325
+00:20:43,389 --> 00:20:46,881
+And I think this is enough
+in this sort of view.
+
+326
+00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,119
+Briefly, Barry.
+
+327
+00:20:48,193 --> 00:20:49,990
+So, I mean--what we have here
+
+328
+00:20:50,062 --> 00:20:53,657
+is a picture of the rich and powerful people
+believe a certain philosophy
+
+329
+00:20:53,732 --> 00:20:57,065
+which they then propound
+through the institutions
+
+330
+00:20:57,136 --> 00:20:58,728
+in which they have a powerful voice.
+
+331
+00:20:58,804 --> 00:21:02,205
+And I think this is exactly the model
+that is being questioned.
+
+332
+00:21:02,274 --> 00:21:07,211
+And, increasingly, what there is
+is a very large body
+
+333
+00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:09,611
+of people who are concerned
+about these rules.
+
+334
+00:21:09,682 --> 00:21:12,742
+The people on the streets
+of Genoa and Seattle
+
+335
+00:21:12,818 --> 00:21:15,286
+are not representative
+of the overall movement.
+
+336
+00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:16,946
+They are the tip of the iceberg.
+
+337
+00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:20,856
+We did a study last year
+that looked across developing countries
+
+338
+00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:24,020
+and found that in the space
+of one year, in 50 protests,
+
+339
+00:21:24,096 --> 00:21:26,929
+more than a million people
+from developing countries
+
+340
+00:21:26,999 --> 00:21:29,661
+were out trying to change the rules
+
+341
+00:21:29,735 --> 00:21:32,465
+that were being imposed on them
+by the World Bank and the IMF
+
+342
+00:21:32,538 --> 00:21:35,200
+and locked down
+through the World Trade Organization.
+
+343
+00:21:35,274 --> 00:21:38,141
+Thank you. We must finish.
+Barry Coates, thank you for joining us.
+
+344
+00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:42,044
+And also Granwyth Hulatberi and
+Vernon Ellis on the line from New York.
+
+345
+00:22:08,807 --> 00:22:10,206
+Section three?
+
+346
+00:22:13,412 --> 00:22:14,572
+Well...
+
+347
+00:22:14,647 --> 00:22:17,980
+It's not exactly a garment bag,
+but it's, uh...
+
+348
+00:22:19,018 --> 00:22:20,349
+...it'll work.
+
+349
+00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,150
+Yeah? You think this
+is very business-like?
+
+350
+00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:26,885
+It's like very official?
+
+351
+00:22:26,959 --> 00:22:29,018
+Very...very big money.
+
+352
+00:22:29,094 --> 00:22:32,894
+Okay, good. That's what I need.
+I need a big money watch.
+
+353
+00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:38,697
+So are you as nervous
+as you were for Salzburg?
+
+354
+00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:41,171
+The thing is, like,
+even with the Salzburg thing,
+
+355
+00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,970
+we went into it, like...
+
+356
+00:22:44,043 --> 00:22:47,843
+sort of--we went there really nervous,
+but the whole time kind of--
+
+357
+00:22:47,913 --> 00:22:50,575
+it doesn't really sink in
+till you're actually there.
+
+358
+00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:51,775
+Right.
+
+359
+00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:55,251
+Well, I think it's good you guys,
+from what I've seen of the speech,
+
+360
+00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,721
+it kind of starts out
+the most normal that it is,
+
+361
+00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:01,282
+so that he can get comfortable,
+and people--
+
+362
+00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,524
+he can sort of slowly
+work his way up into it.
+
+363
+00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,257
+Son of a fucking bitch.
+
+364
+00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,501
+Shit.
+
+365
+00:23:13,505 --> 00:23:16,633
+Yeah, do you have a rag? Fuck.
+
+366
+00:23:17,276 --> 00:23:21,474
+Shit. I have one that has shoe polish
+on it, but that's not right, right?
+
+367
+00:23:24,383 --> 00:23:26,715
+- The screen get a little paint on it?
+- Yeah.
+
+368
+00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:37,652
+- It sounds like a lawn mower.
+- It's a little loud, yeah.
+
+369
+00:23:38,997 --> 00:23:40,328
+- That's not good.
+- Forget it.
+
+370
+00:23:50,142 --> 00:23:53,305
+Look, it made a new noise.
+Good. Good. Good. Great.
+
+371
+00:23:53,378 --> 00:23:54,970
+- Is it great?
+- Try it.
+
+372
+00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,639
+It doesn't work now.
+
+373
+00:23:56,715 --> 00:23:58,546
+- Oh, listen! Yeah.
+- There it goes!
+
+374
+00:23:59,451 --> 00:24:00,782
+Gotta hurry!
+
+375
+00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,863
+Okay, ten minutes.
+They're both here.
+
+376
+00:24:18,337 --> 00:24:19,827
+Hey, Sal.
+
+377
+00:24:21,073 --> 00:24:22,131
+Thanks.
+
+378
+00:24:23,976 --> 00:24:25,136
+Good luck.
+
+379
+00:24:26,478 --> 00:24:28,309
+- We'll see how it goes.
+- Thanks for everything.
+
+380
+00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,974
+Yeah, sleep good.
+Have a good time here.
+
+381
+00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:33,611
+- Enjoy.
+- See you soon.
+
+382
+00:24:33,685 --> 00:24:36,210
+Move into my room.
+Have enjoyment.
+
+383
+00:24:36,288 --> 00:24:37,448
+Okay.
+
+384
+00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:43,158
+Is this everything?
+Wow. Look how efficient.
+
+385
+00:24:43,228 --> 00:24:44,388
+Okay.
+
+386
+00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:48,664
+Efficient.
+A model of efficiency right here.
+
+387
+00:24:51,804 --> 00:24:55,240
+You have some crap on your face
+right here. No, over here.
+
+388
+00:24:57,075 --> 00:24:58,133
+Much better.
+
+389
+00:25:30,576 --> 00:25:32,407
+We arrived last night.
+
+390
+00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:34,809
+You had to take a nap.
+You had to get some sleep.
+
+391
+00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,211
+I just crashed, yeah.
+
+392
+00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:40,115
+And I went and basically
+scoped out the lecture site.
+
+393
+00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,586
+There was a sign on the door
+that said, "Textiles of the Future,"
+
+394
+00:25:43,655 --> 00:25:47,591
+Unruh Hank Hardy was
+the first speaker--Hank Hardy Unruh.
+
+395
+00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,059
+And, you know,
+it all looked sort of official.
+
+396
+00:25:50,128 --> 00:25:52,790
+The coffee cups were out
+for the morning.
+
+397
+00:25:52,865 --> 00:25:54,856
+So I thought,
+"This is great. I'm all ready.
+
+398
+00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,094
+I know exactly where it is.
+We can go there."
+
+399
+00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:59,569
+I had a time--
+I set up a little timetable,
+
+400
+00:25:59,638 --> 00:26:03,836
+I got maps of the thing and all
+the updated conference information.
+
+401
+00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,940
+Came back here.
+Then we went to sleep early.
+
+402
+00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:13,007
+Hank was snoring immediately,
+but I wasn't able to sleep at all, really.
+
+403
+00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:14,780
+I just stayed there awake in bed
+
+404
+00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:18,516
+and occasionally I'd go in the bathroom
+and turn on the light and read brochures
+
+405
+00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,491
+because I was, like,
+just unable to sleep.
+
+406
+00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,893
+And eventually I think I fell asleep
+just before waking up.
+
+407
+00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:29,894
+Great.
+
+408
+00:26:32,671 --> 00:26:35,401
+So I'm leaving my wallet here.
+
+409
+00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,234
+Okay, let's go.
+
+410
+00:26:43,849 --> 00:26:45,510
+- Wait.
+- It's 8:00.
+
+411
+00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,575
+I think I really will leave it here.
+
+412
+00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:54,924
+Are you coming?
+
+413
+00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,922
+Hank, this is a little early
+to get up.
+
+414
+00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:06,499
+- It's all right.
+- I mean, I thought this was a vacation.
+
+415
+00:27:06,571 --> 00:27:08,232
+- Like what?
+- A vacation.
+
+416
+00:27:08,307 --> 00:27:09,706
+I know.
+
+417
+00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,437
+- I wanna go on a vacation.
+- They take me to Finland...
+
+418
+00:27:17,349 --> 00:27:20,682
+Let me take care of this egg for you.
+I'll just peel it.
+
+419
+00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,413
+That'll be nice. Thank you.
+
+420
+00:27:27,292 --> 00:27:29,783
+- But we're behind schedule.
+- Are we?
+
+421
+00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:35,026
+A little bit. It's after 8:00, and I really
+wanted to be at the venue at 8:00.
+
+422
+00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,761
+- Okay.
+- But we're doing fine.
+
+423
+00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,996
+- Is it after 8:00?
+- It is after 8:00.
+
+424
+00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:40,231
+Yeah.
+
+425
+00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:44,969
+You know, pretend like...
+
+426
+00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,383
+Great. We're early.
+
+427
+00:27:56,455 --> 00:27:57,615
+Oh, good.
+
+428
+00:28:00,192 --> 00:28:03,025
+Hello, I'm Hank Hardy Unruh.
+I'm from the--
+
+429
+00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,495
+- Oh, right. Nice to meet you.
+- Nice to meet you.
+
+430
+00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,725
+- We were expecting you.
+- Oh, good.
+
+431
+00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,428
+It's not 9:30--no.
+It's 8:30, right?
+
+432
+00:28:12,237 --> 00:28:16,071
+- But you will have a...
+- It's 8:30 now...is it?
+
+433
+00:28:16,141 --> 00:28:20,475
+lt...is...it's 9:30, yes.
+
+434
+00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:21,876
+- Now?
+- Yes.
+
+435
+00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:24,108
+- Yeah.
+- The time is 9:30?
+
+436
+00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:25,581
+- Yes.
+- Yeah. Almost.
+
+437
+00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,380
+- I'm on at...
+- It's 27 past 9:00 at the moment.
+
+438
+00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,944
+Oh, my God.
+We're an hour off.
+
+439
+00:28:31,023 --> 00:28:33,014
+- Oh, my God. Thank you.
+- You're welcome.
+
+440
+00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:36,458
+- Well, we have to--we start in three--
+- Anyhow, it was nice to see you.
+
+441
+00:28:36,528 --> 00:28:38,462
+Do they know
+that he's going on now?
+
+442
+00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:41,124
+Yeah--well,
+...was expecting you.
+
+443
+00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:43,258
+- Oh, jeez. Okay.
+- Okay, we...
+
+444
+00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,667
+Are you coming, too?
+Have you registered?
+
+445
+00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:53,166
+I'm his assistant.
+We're both working with him.
+
+446
+00:28:53,245 --> 00:28:55,736
+We have to go take care
+of a few things now.
+
+447
+00:28:55,814 --> 00:28:57,543
+- Here it is.
+- Okay.
+
+448
+00:28:57,616 --> 00:29:00,608
+- Would you like to join the dinner?
+- Yes, please.
+
+449
+00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:03,279
+- Is there a fee, or...
+- No, it's included.
+
+450
+00:29:03,355 --> 00:29:06,620
+Okay. Yes, we'll--
+we'll join the dinner. That's great.
+
+451
+00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,357
+- Wow.
+- We must hurry, I guess.
+
+452
+00:29:09,428 --> 00:29:12,022
+- Yes. I will accompany you.
+- Please. Yes.
+
+453
+00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,696
+Actually, no, you can't go in now
+
+454
+00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,099
+'cause you first have
+to take care of that business.
+
+455
+00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,662
+We're an hour--we're...
+we had an hour off.
+
+456
+00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,402
+- I have to do something.
+- Yes.
+
+457
+00:29:24,476 --> 00:29:26,808
+He has to make
+a very important phone call right now.
+
+458
+00:29:26,878 --> 00:29:28,709
+- It'll take me five minutes.
+- Right now?
+
+459
+00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,838
+I'm sorry.
+
+460
+00:29:29,915 --> 00:29:32,748
+But you will have your presentation
+starting after two minutes.
+
+461
+00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:35,309
+Please tell them
+that I'll be three minutes late.
+
+462
+00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,288
+Well, there's a detail.
+
+463
+00:29:43,361 --> 00:29:46,524
+Jesus. Fuck.
+How come we didn't know that?
+
+464
+00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:48,759
+I don't know.
+That's really incredible.
+
+465
+00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:52,292
+- Come on.
+- Okay. Pick up.
+
+466
+00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:55,766
+Jeez, this is terrible.
+
+467
+00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,105
+It's the stupidest--
+I can't...
+
+468
+00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:02,044
+There's--it's an hour's difference.
+The time zone is different here.
+
+469
+00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:08,147
+It's unbelievable.
+How the fuck can that happen?
+
+470
+00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,054
+- Okay, there. That's done now.
+- Ladies and gentlemen...
+
+471
+00:30:12,124 --> 00:30:14,524
+Okay, quick,
+that shirt--the underwear.
+
+472
+00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,256
+The gold underwear.
+
+473
+00:30:17,329 --> 00:30:18,591
+Okay...
+
+474
+00:30:19,998 --> 00:30:21,989
+Do I have to put
+something through here?
+
+475
+00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:23,728
+- No.
+- Okay.
+
+476
+00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:24,962
+Need help?
+
+477
+00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,238
+- Your testicles hanging out?
+- Uh, yeah.
+
+478
+00:30:31,209 --> 00:30:32,267
+Okay.
+
+479
+00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,504
+Here you go.
+
+480
+00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:35,939
+Okay. Great.
+
+481
+00:30:37,916 --> 00:30:41,647
+Oh, God.
+Okay...great.
+
+482
+00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,188
+- It's got a little air in it.
+- Okay, now the pants.
+
+483
+00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,847
+Hurry.
+
+484
+00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:53,094
+Oh, hi. Nice to meet you.
+I'm so sorry.
+
+485
+00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:13,348
+Thank you.
+I'm terribly sorry--
+
+486
+00:31:15,787 --> 00:31:17,618
+Yes, I have my presentation.
+
+487
+00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:20,788
+Terribly sorry.
+
+488
+00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:24,727
+I think the World Trade Organization is
+supposed to know about time zones, but...
+
+489
+00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,922
+Somebody said,
+"Isn't there a time difference?"
+
+490
+00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,096
+And I said, "Nope.
+All of Europe, same time zone."
+
+491
+00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,004
+- So that convinced us all.
+- Me too.
+
+492
+00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:40,238
+We were convinced that it was the right
+time, and we woke up this morning...
+
+493
+00:31:40,312 --> 00:31:43,440
+And we were running five
+or ten minutes late,
+
+494
+00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:47,474
+and then figured out
+that the laptop wasn't working.
+
+495
+00:31:47,552 --> 00:31:49,952
+No, maybe we could switch the order.
+
+496
+00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,353
+Could we have somebody else go,
+and then I go later?
+
+497
+00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,153
+They said, "I think we can do that."
+
+498
+00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,320
+Then they called the coffee people
+and talked to the coffee people
+
+499
+00:31:57,395 --> 00:31:58,953
+to see if the coffee was possible.
+
+500
+00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,019
+That was it.
+
+501
+00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,538
+Thank you very much.
+
+502
+00:33:15,106 --> 00:33:16,368
+This one...
+
+503
+00:33:17,642 --> 00:33:21,373
+It's quite an honor to be here
+in Tampere addressing this audience
+
+504
+00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:25,177
+of the most outstanding
+textile workers in the world today.
+
+505
+00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:30,451
+I see on all the faces here today
+a touching childlike eagerness
+
+506
+00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:34,390
+to tackle the biggest
+textiles questions in the world.
+
+507
+00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:36,791
+How do we at the WTO fit in?
+
+508
+00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:41,355
+What we want to do at the WTO
+is help you achieve your dollar results.
+
+509
+00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,697
+And in just 20 minutes from now,
+
+510
+00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:48,000
+I'm going to show you
+the WTO's very own solution
+
+511
+00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:51,804
+to two of the very biggest problems
+in management.
+
+512
+00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,107
+One--maintaining rapport
+with distant workforce,
+
+513
+00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,014
+and two--maintaining
+healthful amounts of leisure.
+
+514
+00:33:59,084 --> 00:34:03,282
+This solution, appropriately enough,
+is based in textiles.
+
+515
+00:34:05,824 --> 00:34:09,191
+But how did workers
+ever get to be a problem?
+
+516
+00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:12,227
+Before unveiling our solution,
+
+517
+00:34:12,297 --> 00:34:17,291
+I'd like to talk a bit about the history
+of the worker management problem.
+
+518
+00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:21,032
+We all know about the American
+Civil War--at least in the U.S.
+
+519
+00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:25,270
+It was the bloodiest, least-profitable war
+in the history of our country.
+
+520
+00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:27,709
+A war in which unbelievably
+huge amounts of money
+
+521
+00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:30,942
+went right down the drain--
+and all for textiles.
+
+522
+00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:35,952
+By the 1860s, the South
+was utterly flush with cash.
+
+523
+00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,511
+It had recently benefited
+from the cotton gin--
+
+524
+00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:41,058
+an invention that took
+the seeds out of cotton
+
+525
+00:34:41,126 --> 00:34:44,095
+and the South
+out of its pre-industrial past.
+
+526
+00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,823
+Hundreds of thousands of workers
+
+527
+00:34:45,897 --> 00:34:48,331
+previously unemployed
+in their countries of origin
+
+528
+00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,391
+were given useful jobs in textiles.
+
+529
+00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,162
+Into this rosy picture of freedom
+and boom stepped--you guessed it--
+
+530
+00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,231
+the North.
+
+531
+00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:01,301
+Now, some Civil War apologists have said
+that the Civil War, for all its faults,
+
+532
+00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:03,609
+at least had the effect of outlawing
+
+533
+00:35:03,681 --> 00:35:06,616
+an involuntarily imported
+workforce model of work.
+
+534
+00:35:06,684 --> 00:35:09,278
+Now, this model is, of course,
+a terrible thing.
+
+535
+00:35:09,354 --> 00:35:11,345
+I myself am an abolitionist.
+
+536
+00:35:11,423 --> 00:35:15,757
+But, in fact, there is no doubt
+that, left to their own devices,
+
+537
+00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:20,423
+markets would've eventually replaced
+slavery with cleaner sources of labor.
+
+538
+00:35:21,065 --> 00:35:23,363
+To prove my point,
+please join me
+
+539
+00:35:23,435 --> 00:35:26,768
+on what Albert Einstein used to call
+a thought experiment.
+
+540
+00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:32,006
+Suppose involuntarily imported labor
+had never been outlawed.
+
+541
+00:35:32,076 --> 00:35:35,671
+That slaves still existed,
+and that it were easy to own one.
+
+542
+00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:39,581
+What do you think it would cost today
+to profitably maintain a slave,
+
+543
+00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:41,642
+say, here in Tampere?
+
+544
+00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,123
+Let's see...a finished clothing set
+costs $50 at the very least.
+
+545
+00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,923
+Two meals from McDonald's
+cost about $10.00.
+
+546
+00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:54,988
+The cheapest small room
+probably runs for about $250 a month.
+
+547
+00:35:55,066 --> 00:35:58,001
+To function well, you have to pay
+for your slave's health care.
+
+548
+00:35:58,069 --> 00:36:02,130
+If its country of origin was polluted,
+for example, that might run expensively.
+
+549
+00:36:02,207 --> 00:36:05,199
+And, of course, what with
+child labor laws here in Finland,
+
+550
+00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,109
+much of the youth market
+is simply not available.
+
+551
+00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:13,150
+Now leave the same slave
+back at home. Let's say Gabon.
+
+552
+00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:17,086
+In Gabon, $10 pays
+for two weeks of food.
+
+553
+00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:22,218
+$250 pays for two years
+of housing, not a month, at best.
+
+554
+00:36:22,293 --> 00:36:25,956
+$50 pays for a lifetime
+of budget clothing.
+
+555
+00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,964
+And health care is,
+of course, cheaper.
+
+556
+00:36:28,032 --> 00:36:32,867
+On top of it all...youth can be
+gainfully employed without restriction.
+
+557
+00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,428
+The biggest benefit
+of the remote labor system, though,
+
+558
+00:36:35,507 --> 00:36:37,668
+is to the slave him or herself,
+
+559
+00:36:37,742 --> 00:36:42,008
+because in Gabon there is no need
+for the slave not to be free.
+
+560
+00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,479
+This is primarily because
+
+561
+00:36:43,548 --> 00:36:46,483
+there are no one-time
+slave transport costs to recoup
+
+562
+00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,542
+and so the potential losses
+from fleeing
+
+563
+00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,919
+are limited to the slave's
+rudimentary training.
+
+564
+00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,049
+Since the slave can be free,
+
+565
+00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,617
+he or she suddenly becomes
+a worker rather than a slave.
+
+566
+00:36:57,695 --> 00:37:01,290
+Also terrific for morale
+is that slaves--workers--
+
+567
+00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:03,766
+have the luxury of remaining
+in their native habitat
+
+568
+00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:06,702
+and don't have to relocate to places
+where they would be subject
+
+569
+00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:10,263
+to such unpleasantries
+as homesickness and racism.
+
+570
+00:37:11,009 --> 00:37:14,172
+I think it's clear
+from our little thought experiment
+
+571
+00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:17,737
+that if the North and South
+had simply let the market sort it out
+
+572
+00:37:17,815 --> 00:37:19,612
+without protectionist tariffs,
+
+573
+00:37:19,684 --> 00:37:23,745
+they would've quickly given up slavery
+for something more efficient anyhow.
+
+574
+00:37:23,821 --> 00:37:25,152
+By forcing the issue,
+
+575
+00:37:25,223 --> 00:37:29,159
+the North not only committed a terrible
+injustice against the freedom of the South,
+
+576
+00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,161
+but also deprived slavery
+
+577
+00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:34,426
+of its natural development
+into remote labor.
+
+578
+00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:38,324
+Had the leaders
+of the 1860s United States
+
+579
+00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:40,963
+understood what our leaders
+understand today,
+
+580
+00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,303
+the Civil War
+would never have happened.
+
+581
+00:37:44,142 --> 00:37:47,009
+In a world where the headquarters
+of a company might be in New York,
+
+582
+00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,342
+Hong Kong, or Espoo, Finland,
+
+583
+00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:53,578
+and the workers are in Gabon,
+Rangoon, or Estonia,
+
+584
+00:37:53,651 --> 00:37:56,984
+how does a manager maintain
+proper rapport with the workers,
+
+585
+00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,216
+and how does he or she
+ensure from a distance
+
+586
+00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:02,350
+that workers perform their work
+in an ethical fashion?
+
+587
+00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:05,790
+I'm about to show you
+an actual prototype
+
+588
+00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:10,323
+of the WTO's solution to two major
+management problems of today.
+
+589
+00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,234
+Now, we all know that not even
+the best workplace design
+
+590
+00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:16,967
+can help even the most
+astute manager keep track of workers.
+
+591
+00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:22,308
+What you need is a solution that enables
+complete rapport with workers--
+
+592
+00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,871
+especially when they're
+located far away.
+
+593
+00:38:26,084 --> 00:38:28,245
+Mike, would you help me a moment?
+
+594
+00:38:50,775 --> 00:38:52,106
+Thank you.
+
+595
+00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,906
+This is much better.
+Much more comfortable.
+
+596
+00:38:56,414 --> 00:39:00,578
+This is the WTO's answer to two
+of the major management problems,
+
+597
+00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:03,712
+and we're calling it
+the Management Leisure Suit.
+
+598
+00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,120
+It's--the two problems again--
+
+599
+00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:09,023
+how to maintain close rapport
+with distant workers
+
+600
+00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:13,928
+and how to remain comfortable
+and increase leisure activities.
+
+601
+00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,831
+How does
+the Management Leisure Suit work?
+
+602
+00:39:16,901 --> 00:39:20,064
+Besides being extremely comfortable,
+as I can guarantee you.
+
+603
+00:39:20,138 --> 00:39:23,904
+Well, allow me to describe
+the suit's core features.
+
+604
+00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,625
+This...
+
+605
+00:39:50,702 --> 00:39:54,103
+This is the E.V.A.--
+
+606
+00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:58,040
+the Employee Visualization Appendage.
+
+607
+00:39:58,109 --> 00:40:01,476
+It's an instantly deployable,
+hip-mounted device
+
+608
+00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:04,606
+with totally hands-free operation...
+
+609
+00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:09,016
+that allows the manager to see
+his employees directly right here.
+
+610
+00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:13,490
+Signals communicating the exact
+amounts and quality of physical work
+
+611
+00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:15,651
+are transmitted
+not only visually right here,
+
+612
+00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:21,359
+but directly through electric channels
+implanted directly into the manager.
+
+613
+00:40:21,432 --> 00:40:25,766
+The workers, for their part, are fitted
+with corresponding transmitting chips
+
+614
+00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:29,637
+that are implanted humanely
+directly into the shoulder.
+
+615
+00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:32,699
+But the other equally important
+achievement of the MLS
+
+616
+00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,438
+has to do with leisure.
+
+617
+00:40:34,512 --> 00:40:38,312
+In the United States, leisure--
+another word for freedom, really--
+
+618
+00:40:38,382 --> 00:40:42,284
+has been decreasing steadily
+since the 1970s.
+
+619
+00:40:42,353 --> 00:40:45,948
+The Management Leisure Suit
+permits the manager to reverse this trend
+
+620
+00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,321
+by letting him do his work anywhere
+
+621
+00:40:48,392 --> 00:40:51,486
+while remaining
+in complete touch with the workers,
+
+622
+00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:55,225
+physically sensing what's going on
+in the workforce, on the floor,
+
+623
+00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:58,234
+through channels implanted
+directly into the manager.
+
+624
+00:40:58,302 --> 00:41:01,135
+Again, the manager
+sees the employees,
+
+625
+00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:03,366
+but also feels what they're feeling
+
+626
+00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,775
+and can select where to focus
+in the workplace environment.
+
+627
+00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,011
+So, in conclusion,
+
+628
+00:41:11,082 --> 00:41:14,745
+I'd like to ask,
+is this a science-fiction scenario?
+
+629
+00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:21,914
+The answer is no.
+
+630
+00:41:22,927 --> 00:41:25,452
+Everything we've seen here,
+everything we've been talking about
+
+631
+00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:27,020
+is entirely possible today.
+
+632
+00:41:27,832 --> 00:41:31,233
+We can always look forward
+on the highways of progress
+
+633
+00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:33,361
+towards ever-new horizons
+
+634
+00:41:33,437 --> 00:41:37,703
+with cooperation and mutual delight
+in the fruits of prosperity.
+
+635
+00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:40,835
+I'm very excited to be here.
+Thank you very much.
+
+636
+00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,098
+Something we're trying
+to do more and more as...
+
+637
+00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:32,620
+I wasn't depressed
+by people not reacting,
+
+638
+00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,098
+I wasn't depressed by people just
+swallowing it and not asking questions
+
+639
+00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:40,661
+because I thought, "Well, that shows
+that you need some sort of control,"
+
+640
+00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:44,071
+because the WTO--me--
+can come in
+
+641
+00:42:44,141 --> 00:42:48,407
+and say these amazingly hideous things
+to this group of the most educated people,
+
+642
+00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:52,210
+like the top .1% education-wise people
+in the entire world
+
+643
+00:42:52,283 --> 00:42:54,148
+in a developed country
+like Finland--
+
+644
+00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,686
+these people all have PhDs
+or advanced degrees--
+
+645
+00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,745
+and you can say
+the most atrocious things
+
+646
+00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:02,315
+and nobody will really react
+and nobody will really care.
+
+647
+00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:06,921
+It's like, you know,
+what can't corporations get away with?
+
+648
+00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,641
+So, where are we?
+
+649
+00:43:20,711 --> 00:43:23,305
+Well, we're arriving
+in Helsinki right now.
+
+650
+00:43:24,482 --> 00:43:26,416
+We left the conference this morning.
+
+651
+00:43:26,484 --> 00:43:31,478
+It was just--it had driven us
+completely mad after dinner last night.
+
+652
+00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:33,955
+I think we had our fill with dinner.
+
+653
+00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,084
+I had to actually leave
+a little bit early.
+
+654
+00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,494
+I went over to the table where Unruh--
+
+655
+00:43:40,564 --> 00:43:44,694
+Hank Hardy had to sit
+with the big men and eat,
+
+656
+00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:47,101
+and I told him
+that we needed to leave
+
+657
+00:43:47,171 --> 00:43:51,835
+because we had a telephone meeting
+with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately.
+
+658
+00:43:53,878 --> 00:43:55,209
+- Great.
+- Hi.
+
+659
+00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:56,610
+Sorry to butt in a minute,
+
+660
+00:43:56,681 --> 00:43:59,013
+but we're supposed to meet
+Manduka Djubango...
+
+661
+00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:00,812
+- Oh, God.
+- ...at 10:00.
+
+662
+00:44:00,885 --> 00:44:02,716
+And then we both started laughing,
+
+663
+00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:05,984
+which was really not convenient
+for the context.
+
+664
+00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:10,016
+So we left, and we just decided
+that, basically,
+
+665
+00:44:10,094 --> 00:44:14,497
+we couldn't figure out what else
+we could possibly do at this conference,
+
+666
+00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:18,228
+so we just thought, "Well,
+let's go to Helsinki instead."
+
+667
+00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:20,665
+So, this is the paper.
+
+668
+00:44:20,738 --> 00:44:23,070
+On the front page--
+I just discovered it--
+
+669
+00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,473
+it says there's a seminar
+at the university
+
+670
+00:44:26,544 --> 00:44:30,878
+and that somebody talked
+about controlling remote workers
+
+671
+00:44:30,948 --> 00:44:34,111
+with electrical impulsions.
+
+672
+00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:37,018
+And then you turn to the page, and...
+
+673
+00:44:38,356 --> 00:44:39,846
+...and that's what you get.
+
+674
+00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:45,794
+And this right here represents
+the World Trade Organization.
+
+675
+00:44:45,863 --> 00:44:50,891
+This... <i>is</i>
+the World Trade Organization.
+
+676
+00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:59,600
+I went down to these
+Mexican border towns in the mid '80s.
+
+677
+00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,508
+They were called "Maquilladoras"
+
+678
+00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:04,173
+when they had
+the first trade agreements
+
+679
+00:45:04,248 --> 00:45:06,944
+between Mexico and the United States.
+
+680
+00:45:07,018 --> 00:45:10,283
+And everyone was saying, "This is
+gonna raise Mexico out of poverty,"
+
+681
+00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:12,845
+and things were gonna be so great,
+and within ten years,
+
+682
+00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,517
+they'd all be driving
+shiny new cars in Mexico.
+
+683
+00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:18,528
+And I went down there and saw this--
+
+684
+00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,430
+the incredible poverty
+in these Mexican border towns.
+
+685
+00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,402
+Fifteen years later, I went back.
+Not a damn thing had changed.
+
+686
+00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:29,928
+Here's all these workers working
+for all these American corporations,
+
+687
+00:45:30,007 --> 00:45:32,532
+and you just go across the street
+
+688
+00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:35,704
+and you found people
+living in the same horrid conditions,
+
+689
+00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:37,771
+the same poverty existing.
+
+690
+00:45:37,848 --> 00:45:41,579
+And you had to ask,
+"Well, who's benefiting from this?"
+
+691
+00:45:41,652 --> 00:45:44,143
+Who benefited were
+these American corporations.
+
+692
+00:45:44,221 --> 00:45:46,712
+During the 1990s,
+they became even more wealthy,
+
+693
+00:45:46,791 --> 00:45:49,954
+they posted record profits--
+larger record profits,
+
+694
+00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,757
+and the people in Mexico
+just continued to suffer.
+
+695
+00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:55,390
+It was all a big scam.
+
+696
+00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,949
+Is this the one?
+
+697
+00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:17,419
+No. You got the wrong one.
+
+698
+00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:18,648
+Shit.
+
+699
+00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:21,681
+"Will WTO stand up?"
+
+700
+00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:24,751
+Oh, my God. It's got pictures.
+They're nice, too.
+
+701
+00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:26,820
+Yeah, they actually look okay
+at that size.
+
+702
+00:46:26,897 --> 00:46:30,560
+"Bichlbaum isn't...
+but he plays one on TV."
+
+703
+00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:33,034
+This is basically the core
+of what we do.
+
+704
+00:46:33,104 --> 00:46:36,801
+All of these newspapers
+and magazines have articles
+
+705
+00:46:36,874 --> 00:46:38,603
+on the Yes Men,
+
+706
+00:46:38,676 --> 00:46:42,168
+and this is why
+we are doing these things.
+
+707
+00:46:42,246 --> 00:46:44,237
+This is why we go
+and do these conferences.
+
+708
+00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:46,647
+It's not for the 200 people
+or the hundred people
+
+709
+00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,878
+that might see us give the lecture.
+
+710
+00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:50,784
+Although we'd like them to come away
+
+711
+00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:53,517
+with an interesting experience
+from the lecture,
+
+712
+00:46:53,591 --> 00:46:57,994
+the reason we do it is so that people
+who read <i>Bizarre</i> magazine
+
+713
+00:46:58,062 --> 00:47:00,860
+or the <i>New York Times</i>
+or <i>Fortune</i> or <i>Harper's</i>
+
+714
+00:47:00,931 --> 00:47:03,593
+can read about it
+in the mainstream press.
+
+715
+00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:06,192
+This is how millions of people
+could read about it
+
+716
+00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:11,572
+and potentially get turned on
+to some of the ideas of anti-globalization.
+
+717
+00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:14,805
+One of the problems
+with the <i>Fortune</i> thing
+
+718
+00:47:14,879 --> 00:47:18,610
+is that it's in this--
+well, <i>Fortune--</i>
+
+719
+00:47:18,682 --> 00:47:22,846
+it's read by business people
+and accountants and that kind of thing.
+
+720
+00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,758
+And that's exactly who we're supposed
+to be talking to in Australia in May.
+
+721
+00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:31,658
+It's an accounting conference.
+
+722
+00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:34,721
+It's a little...
+a little worrisome.
+
+723
+00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,743
+You need a new shirt?
+One that's not wrinkled?
+
+724
+00:47:47,811 --> 00:47:48,800
+Yeah.
+
+725
+00:47:48,879 --> 00:47:50,710
+Will that be good with your thing?
+
+726
+00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:53,213
+Do you think it'll work
+with your suit?
+
+727
+00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:56,776
+This one's extra large. Yeah, they'll all
+work with my suit. It's terrible.
+
+728
+00:47:56,854 --> 00:47:59,186
+- It's striped, though. Is that okay?
+- Yeah.
+
+729
+00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:02,489
+- Sure it's okay.
+- Why don't you go get a shirt, then?
+
+730
+00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,893
+I'll just get this. Wait.
+Oh, it's not very much cotton.
+
+731
+00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,624
+- How much is it?
+- I hate that.
+
+732
+00:48:07,698 --> 00:48:10,360
+- 35%?
+- It's 35%. It's like...
+
+733
+00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:11,526
+No, it's fine for--
+
+734
+00:48:11,602 --> 00:48:13,536
+It doesn't wrinkle much--
+that's nice about that.
+
+735
+00:48:13,604 --> 00:48:16,164
+I'll just wear it. All right.
+
+736
+00:48:22,846 --> 00:48:25,508
+The thing is, there's a question
+of whether he's--
+
+737
+00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:28,313
+at what point he recognizes you
+doesn't really matter.
+
+738
+00:48:28,385 --> 00:48:31,877
+What we want is that moment
+when he does recognize you.
+
+739
+00:48:31,956 --> 00:48:34,948
+So if he recognizes you here
+and sees that you're in the room,
+
+740
+00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:38,290
+then he'll be looking back and forth
+at you, at the screen.
+
+741
+00:48:38,362 --> 00:48:41,695
+At that point, if he recognizes you,
+we better say something.
+
+742
+00:48:45,536 --> 00:48:47,868
+No, I think it's down here,
+but I don't know.
+
+743
+00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,801
+It must be right down Morris.
+
+744
+00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,035
+Remember we walked...
+
+745
+00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,442
+It's on the end of this line here.
+
+746
+00:49:11,228 --> 00:49:12,286
+Thanks.
+
+747
+00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:18,260
+- Andy, hi. How're you doing?
+- Barry. Nice to meet you.
+
+748
+00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:20,963
+- Good to meet you.
+- Good. Great.
+
+749
+00:49:21,038 --> 00:49:22,198
+We're in London,
+
+750
+00:49:22,273 --> 00:49:26,266
+and we were just at the offices
+of the World Development Movement
+
+751
+00:49:26,343 --> 00:49:27,833
+where we talked to Barry Coates,
+
+752
+00:49:27,911 --> 00:49:30,072
+who's the director
+of the World Development Movement
+
+753
+00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,140
+and who showed up
+on CNBC MarketWrap Europe
+
+754
+00:49:34,218 --> 00:49:37,881
+debating our friend here--
+Granwyth Hulatberi--
+
+755
+00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:42,289
+about the prospects of WTO
+and globalization.
+
+756
+00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:46,022
+We kind of expected him maybe to have
+a glimmer of recognition immediately,
+
+757
+00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,358
+and he didn't--okay.
+
+758
+00:49:47,431 --> 00:49:50,025
+Then we put on the tape and...
+
+759
+00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,264
+he laughed
+at how horribly stupid it was,
+
+760
+00:49:54,338 --> 00:49:55,999
+but he never realized
+
+761
+00:49:56,073 --> 00:49:59,406
+that this wasn't really
+a representative of the WTO.
+
+762
+00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:02,070
+Even when he saw me
+like this right next to him,
+
+763
+00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:05,172
+and then we switched seats
+and he still didn't notice.
+
+764
+00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,707
+Then I had to put my face
+next to the thing and go...
+
+765
+00:50:08,786 --> 00:50:10,913
+Yeah, let's just pause it here.
+
+766
+00:50:10,988 --> 00:50:13,149
+- Okay. Hit stop.
+- Is there a pause?
+
+767
+00:50:13,223 --> 00:50:15,054
+- Stop button.
+- There's no pause.
+
+768
+00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:18,754
+I don't know what I could've said
+after that clip.
+
+769
+00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:20,558
+I mean...really...
+
+770
+00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:26,129
+"Where did they get this guy from?"
+might've been my first comment.
+
+771
+00:50:26,203 --> 00:50:28,865
+So did you ever figure out
+where they got the guy from?
+
+772
+00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:36,136
+I understood that he was in the External
+Relations Department for the WTO.
+
+773
+00:50:36,213 --> 00:50:39,080
+- That's what they thought, too.
+- That's what they thought, as well.
+
+774
+00:50:39,783 --> 00:50:40,943
+- But...
+- But...
+
+775
+00:50:41,018 --> 00:50:44,010
+- ...as it happens, he wasn't.
+- Yeah.
+
+776
+00:50:44,088 --> 00:50:47,057
+- In fact--
+- Just take one more close look.
+
+777
+00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:50,854
+Wait, can we--is this reverse?
+
+778
+00:50:54,398 --> 00:50:55,888
+No!
+
+779
+00:50:59,269 --> 00:51:01,533
+I wasn't gonna mention the likeness.
+
+780
+00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,565
+You were being very polite,
+weren't you? Yeah.
+
+781
+00:51:06,577 --> 00:51:08,238
+- Yeah.
+- You did it as a spoof?
+
+782
+00:51:08,379 --> 00:51:10,108
+- Yeah.
+- Yeah. Basically...
+
+783
+00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:14,644
+That's good. We weren't sure
+how you would react.
+
+784
+00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:18,313
+We were really hoping you wouldn't be
+too offended. We were like, "Oh, no!"
+
+785
+00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:20,721
+Hell, no. That's great.
+That's really--
+
+786
+00:51:20,791 --> 00:51:23,624
+I was wondering,
+'cause I hadn't seen that guy before,
+
+787
+00:51:23,694 --> 00:51:27,095
+and I did know some of the WTO
+External Relations people,
+
+788
+00:51:27,164 --> 00:51:31,260
+and I was thinking, "My God,
+they really put up a right one this time."
+
+789
+00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,997
+We wanted to talk
+to Barry Coates as well
+
+790
+00:51:34,071 --> 00:51:39,008
+because he has a lot of statistics
+and information about globalization
+
+791
+00:51:39,076 --> 00:51:42,443
+that we thought would be useful
+for the lecture in Australia.
+
+792
+00:51:42,513 --> 00:51:45,004
+All of the WTO agreements bar one
+
+793
+00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:48,347
+are all about restricting
+what governments can do.
+
+794
+00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:53,015
+And so, essentially, the whole
+trading system is built on the premise
+
+795
+00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:58,255
+that the companies trading internationally,
+investing internationally,
+
+796
+00:51:58,328 --> 00:52:03,322
+are going to be preyed upon
+by nasty governments.
+
+797
+00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,732
+And, really, what we have
+
+798
+00:52:05,803 --> 00:52:08,738
+is an international system
+that is entirely the reverse.
+
+799
+00:52:08,806 --> 00:52:11,001
+What's got squeezed out of the system
+
+800
+00:52:11,074 --> 00:52:14,066
+is democracy,
+is development, is environment,
+
+801
+00:52:14,144 --> 00:52:17,136
+is the kind of human values
+
+802
+00:52:17,214 --> 00:52:20,650
+which really ought to be the center
+of what we're trying to do.
+
+803
+00:52:20,717 --> 00:52:24,209
+We don't live to trade, you know.
+
+804
+00:52:24,288 --> 00:52:27,121
+We live to have decent lives.
+
+805
+00:52:27,191 --> 00:52:29,682
+And that ought to be the goal
+of our trade policy,
+
+806
+00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,788
+not maximizing trade
+or getting rid of any impediments to it.
+
+807
+00:53:00,224 --> 00:53:02,351
+Looks good.
+I've got that.
+
+808
+00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,721
+Need to get the video...
+
+809
+00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,929
+...and we'll be off.
+
+810
+00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:10,432
+Let's see...
+
+811
+00:53:13,237 --> 00:53:16,070
+One of the big reasons
+why I'm up here
+
+812
+00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:20,098
+is that we have the Australia gig
+for the Yes Men.
+
+813
+00:53:20,177 --> 00:53:24,170
+I did an animation about the recycling
+of post-consumer waste
+
+814
+00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:27,979
+into hamburgers and fast food.
+
+815
+00:53:28,051 --> 00:53:30,281
+So...here we go.
+
+816
+00:53:30,921 --> 00:53:34,516
+The answer to the world's
+sustainable food future is in recycling.
+
+817
+00:53:35,826 --> 00:53:38,420
+Since over half our nutrients
+taken in are eliminated,
+
+818
+00:53:38,495 --> 00:53:39,894
+valuable resources are at risk.
+
+819
+00:53:39,963 --> 00:53:43,364
+By using post-consumer waste,
+reBurger allows essential nutrients
+
+820
+00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:46,732
+to be offered to developing countries
+for greatly reduced cost.
+
+821
+00:53:48,038 --> 00:53:49,699
+Okay...
+
+822
+00:53:54,411 --> 00:53:56,072
+It gets better.
+
+823
+00:53:57,314 --> 00:53:58,576
+- Wait.
+- What was that?
+
+824
+00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:01,140
+- Was that in outer space?
+- What the hell was that?
+
+825
+00:54:01,785 --> 00:54:04,720
+I think it does the job.
+I think it does the job.
+
+826
+00:54:07,624 --> 00:54:11,617
+We're here in New York
+because Herb Alpert,
+
+827
+00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:14,687
+of Herb Alpert
+and the Tijuana Brass,
+
+828
+00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:16,926
+gave us this award.
+
+829
+00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,664
+A bunch of money to do
+the kind of stuff that we do.
+
+830
+00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:24,229
+So we had to come here
+and have dinner with him
+
+831
+00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:26,970
+and get the money
+and thank everybody.
+
+832
+00:54:27,044 --> 00:54:29,877
+It was very nice
+and very surprising.
+
+833
+00:54:29,947 --> 00:54:33,280
+But we're very pleased.
+I think we can say we're very pleased.
+
+834
+00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:35,845
+Yeah, it was a big chunk of money.
+
+835
+00:54:35,919 --> 00:54:39,753
+It's gonna bankroll a lot
+of future activities like going to Australia.
+
+836
+00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,949
+Yeah, so we got
+this chunk of money but,
+
+837
+00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:45,358
+of course, now we're
+also using this opportunity
+
+838
+00:54:45,429 --> 00:54:48,091
+and this hotel room here in New York
+to meet up with Matt
+
+839
+00:54:48,165 --> 00:54:51,157
+who's been working on the PowerPoint
+presentation for Australia,
+
+840
+00:54:51,234 --> 00:54:52,826
+and to meet up with Patrick
+
+841
+00:54:52,903 --> 00:54:56,498
+who's been working on animations
+for Australia as well.
+
+842
+00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:00,703
+Fortunately we were lucky, too,
+because Snafu was in town.
+
+843
+00:55:00,777 --> 00:55:03,507
+He's sort of a European Yes Man.
+
+844
+00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:05,673
+He's been circulating
+in the European scene
+
+845
+00:55:05,749 --> 00:55:08,240
+doing Yes Men-type activities.
+
+846
+00:55:08,318 --> 00:55:11,253
+But it's a good thing
+he's here in the States
+
+847
+00:55:11,321 --> 00:55:13,653
+so he could go
+to Plattsburgh with us.
+
+848
+00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:16,215
+Yes, trade liberalization
+is a religious undertaking.
+
+849
+00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,853
+A project of faith, a crusade of sorts,
+and it has been
+
+850
+00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:22,296
+ever since its founders declared
+that financial success comes from God
+
+851
+00:55:22,366 --> 00:55:25,358
+and that wealth
+is a sign of divine favor.
+
+852
+00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:29,667
+Now, why is starvation a problem?
+First, the facts.
+
+853
+00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,834
+As we all know, investment
+and exports have been on the rise...
+
+854
+00:55:35,646 --> 00:55:37,307
+There's some bad news.
+
+855
+00:55:37,381 --> 00:55:40,646
+There's some really bad news
+that came down in the last two days.
+
+856
+00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:43,984
+The conference in Australia--
+
+857
+00:55:44,054 --> 00:55:46,716
+the people from the conference
+in Australia wrote an e-mail
+
+858
+00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:51,454
+saying that the conference has been
+canceled because of low enrollment.
+
+859
+00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:54,190
+In some ways
+it's really kind of, I guess,
+
+860
+00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:56,596
+a nice thing
+that there was underenrollment
+
+861
+00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:58,828
+because it was really
+a hideous conference
+
+862
+00:55:58,902 --> 00:56:00,961
+and it seemed like a really dire thing
+
+863
+00:56:01,038 --> 00:56:03,871
+that people would actually
+want to go to that thing.
+
+864
+00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,272
+And so, it's really
+encouraging for humanity
+
+865
+00:56:06,343 --> 00:56:08,743
+that the conference
+actually has been canceled.
+
+866
+00:56:08,812 --> 00:56:12,839
+But at the same time, it's really
+made things difficult for us.
+
+867
+00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:14,907
+So I wrote back to them
+as Hildegard West
+
+868
+00:56:14,985 --> 00:56:18,648
+and I asked them if they
+would please set up another venue
+
+869
+00:56:18,722 --> 00:56:22,317
+because Kinnithrung Sprat
+is already en route to Australia.
+
+870
+00:56:22,392 --> 00:56:25,793
+So right now I'm waiting to see
+if they come back to us
+
+871
+00:56:25,862 --> 00:56:29,696
+with a suggestion that they'll actually
+have a public presentation,
+
+872
+00:56:29,766 --> 00:56:32,496
+but since the conference
+has been canceled,
+
+873
+00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:38,098
+now the event in Plattsburgh might be
+the only venue we have for this lecture.
+
+874
+00:56:38,175 --> 00:56:41,611
+So it's really important now that we get
+the lecture done and sort of together.
+
+875
+00:56:41,678 --> 00:56:48,413
+So it's no longer a dress rehearsal.
+It's actually, like, the final production.
+
+876
+00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:51,317
+It's about time.
+
+877
+00:56:51,388 --> 00:56:53,481
+I was so worried about your shoes.
+
+878
+00:56:53,557 --> 00:56:56,355
+This guy brought
+real shoes for you. Look.
+
+879
+00:56:56,426 --> 00:56:58,257
+Do we have the hamburgers yet?
+
+880
+00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,121
+- We have to pick them up.
+- You mentioned--
+
+881
+00:57:01,198 --> 00:57:03,530
+They're ordered.
+Richard ordered them already.
+
+882
+00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,431
+- That's fantastic.
+- We pick them up?
+
+883
+00:57:05,502 --> 00:57:08,562
+Basically, there's this guy
+named Richard Robbins who I met
+
+884
+00:57:08,638 --> 00:57:10,629
+at a conference
+about a month ago,
+
+885
+00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:15,508
+and he has written
+several books on globalization.
+
+886
+00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,843
+He was interested
+in having the WTO
+
+887
+00:57:18,915 --> 00:57:21,315
+come speak
+at the Economics Department.
+
+888
+00:57:21,384 --> 00:57:24,785
+Only he really knows that this
+isn't really the WTO.
+
+889
+00:57:24,855 --> 00:57:27,119
+Everybody else will think
+that it's the WTO.
+
+890
+00:57:27,741 --> 00:57:30,437
+But another good thing is
+that it will be a hungry audience,
+
+891
+00:57:30,511 --> 00:57:33,503
+so there's a good chance
+they are going to eat those hamburgers,
+
+892
+00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,741
+which we weren't sure
+was actually gonna happen
+
+893
+00:57:35,816 --> 00:57:38,148
+with the accountants in Australia.
+
+894
+00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,513
+I think, for look,
+I should probably carry these in.
+
+895
+00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,581
+Okay. Can you do it?
+
+896
+00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:49,493
+I'm thinking that you probably shouldn't
+be associated with the hamburgers.
+
+897
+00:57:49,563 --> 00:57:50,825
+Okay.
+
+898
+00:57:50,898 --> 00:57:53,298
+I'd like to thank everybody for coming.
+
+899
+00:57:53,367 --> 00:57:59,033
+You have many education choices,
+and we're all grateful at the WTO
+
+900
+00:57:59,106 --> 00:58:02,075
+that you have chosen
+to listen to us for an hour
+
+901
+00:58:02,142 --> 00:58:05,475
+and to our messages about things
+that will impact everyone.
+
+902
+00:58:05,546 --> 00:58:07,878
+I'd like to say that,
+by joining us here,
+
+903
+00:58:07,948 --> 00:58:11,008
+you're essentially embarking
+with us on a mission.
+
+904
+00:58:12,052 --> 00:58:14,646
+I'd like to start right at the beginning.
+
+905
+00:58:14,722 --> 00:58:16,383
+As I was saying,
+
+906
+00:58:16,457 --> 00:58:20,518
+trade liberalization is a project of faith;
+it's a crusade.
+
+907
+00:58:20,594 --> 00:58:22,653
+And in any crusade,
+there are problems.
+
+908
+00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,392
+There are invading armies,
+there are big blockades.
+
+909
+00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,301
+And one of the problems
+that we run into in this crusade
+
+910
+00:58:30,370 --> 00:58:32,065
+is starvation in the Third World.
+
+911
+00:58:32,139 --> 00:58:35,472
+You may recognize that symbol
+from those green bins you see...
+
+912
+00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:37,737
+where cans, bottles, blah, blah.
+
+913
+00:58:37,811 --> 00:58:41,645
+The kind of recycling I'm talking about
+that we have developed at the WTO
+
+914
+00:58:41,715 --> 00:58:46,778
+is...not--not really
+this irrelevant kind of recycling
+
+915
+00:58:46,854 --> 00:58:50,017
+where the target--
+individual consumers like you and me
+
+916
+00:58:50,090 --> 00:58:55,585
+or of non-edible industrial products--
+is such a tiny part of the problem.
+
+917
+00:58:55,662 --> 00:59:00,861
+Rather, we're talking about really
+recycling what counts where it counts.
+
+918
+00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:03,095
+To begin to understand
+the theory behind this,
+
+919
+00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:06,867
+you must first realize that the human body
+is not really very efficient.
+
+920
+00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:11,434
+When ingesting heavy foods,
+only about 20% of the nutrients
+
+921
+00:59:11,512 --> 00:59:14,276
+are absorbed
+by the alimentary passageway
+
+922
+00:59:14,348 --> 00:59:18,341
+while the other 80% finds itself
+expelled in post-consumer byproducts.
+
+923
+00:59:18,418 --> 00:59:19,908
+Already 20 years ago,
+
+924
+00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:23,821
+NASA scientists began
+to tap into this nutritional gold mine
+
+925
+00:59:23,891 --> 00:59:27,383
+by developing filters that could
+transform their astronauts' waste
+
+926
+00:59:27,461 --> 00:59:31,591
+into healthy, hygienic,
+and even delicious food once again.
+
+927
+00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:33,326
+With the use of this technology,
+
+928
+00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,393
+a single hamburger, for example,
+can be eaten more than ten times,
+
+929
+00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:42,374
+providing a cumulative total
+of three times the nutritional value
+
+930
+00:59:42,442 --> 00:59:44,603
+of the original fresh hamburger.
+
+931
+00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:48,478
+Now, again, a certain amount
+of cultural openness is required
+
+932
+00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:51,382
+as we investigate solutions.
+
+933
+00:59:51,451 --> 00:59:53,476
+And I'd love to take any questions.
+
+934
+00:59:53,554 --> 00:59:54,612
+Yes, you've been--
+
+935
+00:59:54,688 --> 00:59:56,519
+Coming from a Third World country,
+
+936
+00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,424
+I found most of what you said
+pretty offensive.
+
+937
+01:00:00,494 --> 01:00:05,329
+It's as if everyone is equal,
+but some are more equal than others.
+
+938
+01:00:05,399 --> 01:00:07,390
+And...who is to say
+
+939
+01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,664
+whether people in the Third World
+want a burger?
+
+940
+01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,900
+You know, I, in my heart,
+sometimes find it to agree
+
+941
+01:00:13,974 --> 01:00:17,637
+that cultures deserve
+an equal consideration
+
+942
+01:00:17,711 --> 01:00:19,645
+perhaps to develop on their own terms,
+
+943
+01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:21,044
+but we're different.
+
+944
+01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,776
+We're culturally different.
+We're rich, they're poor.
+
+945
+01:00:23,851 --> 01:00:26,319
+This is the most humane solution
+we can come up with
+
+946
+01:00:26,386 --> 01:00:28,081
+that stays within the market logic.
+
+947
+01:00:28,155 --> 01:00:31,818
+If it's all right, I could answer
+a portion of that question, as well.
+
+948
+01:00:31,892 --> 01:00:35,919
+And this answers the question
+about desire for the product
+
+949
+01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:39,329
+because the biggest growth areas
+are the developing world.
+
+950
+01:00:39,399 --> 01:00:43,392
+And so, in fact,
+people do want the product.
+
+951
+01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:48,635
+We do have a kind of video presentation
+about this that I came prepared to show.
+
+952
+01:00:48,709 --> 01:00:53,339
+It's not--the program isn't actually
+completely ready yet.
+
+953
+01:00:55,549 --> 01:01:00,953
+So, as you can see here,
+there's a consumer in the First World
+
+954
+01:01:01,021 --> 01:01:04,684
+entering McDonald's
+and consuming a hamburger.
+
+955
+01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:11,023
+And, afterward, this is the process
+we're all familiar with.
+
+956
+01:01:11,098 --> 01:01:13,225
+I don't need
+to explain it to anyone.
+
+957
+01:01:15,269 --> 01:01:17,430
+But...
+
+958
+01:01:17,504 --> 01:01:20,029
+You see, it's rendered out
+in this style
+
+959
+01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:24,476
+because studies have shown
+that consumers are most responsive
+
+960
+01:01:24,544 --> 01:01:28,640
+to 3-D animation right now,
+particularly in developing cultures.
+
+961
+01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:32,779
+So, as you can see,
+it goes through a piping system,
+
+962
+01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,514
+and this isn't unusual.
+
+963
+01:01:34,588 --> 01:01:38,080
+We do this for oil.
+We could do this for food, as well.
+
+964
+01:01:38,158 --> 01:01:42,288
+And, as you can see,
+it goes back up through the plumbing...
+
+965
+01:01:42,362 --> 01:01:45,354
+and emerges in a McDonald's.
+
+966
+01:01:45,432 --> 01:01:49,095
+Now, the part of this video that isn't
+completed yet is the filtering process.
+
+967
+01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:53,663
+There will be
+a very well-rendered filtering...
+
+968
+01:02:04,518 --> 01:02:08,079
+As you can see--this might answer
+somebody's question from before,
+
+969
+01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,715
+but at the McDonald's
+in a developing country
+
+970
+01:02:10,791 --> 01:02:12,782
+and, in fact,
+in this country as well,
+
+971
+01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:15,350
+you would be able to choose--
+the number one, number two,
+
+972
+01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,294
+number three,
+number four, number five
+
+973
+01:02:17,364 --> 01:02:19,992
+would no longer refer
+to combinations of food,
+
+974
+01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:23,628
+but rather just the number of times
+the product had been recycled.
+
+975
+01:02:25,472 --> 01:02:29,067
+We're lucky to be able to partner with
+the World Trade Organization which,
+
+976
+01:02:29,142 --> 01:02:31,042
+you know, has slightly different goals.
+
+977
+01:02:31,111 --> 01:02:34,103
+Of course, McDonald's goals
+are to profit and grow,
+
+978
+01:02:34,181 --> 01:02:35,842
+and we hope that we can provide
+
+979
+01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:38,407
+a nutritious and tasty product
+in the process.
+
+980
+01:02:38,485 --> 01:02:42,649
+Our goals are to help McDonald's profit
+and grow, and all other corporations.
+
+981
+01:02:42,723 --> 01:02:45,556
+I think you guys--
+like, the WTO--
+
+982
+01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:49,686
+is kind of lacking kind of, like,
+a human element, you know?
+
+983
+01:02:49,763 --> 01:02:55,633
+Like...if you saw--
+have you ever seen starving people?
+
+984
+01:02:55,702 --> 01:02:57,533
+In pictures. Yes.
+
+985
+01:02:58,405 --> 01:03:01,465
+So, tell me, if you saw
+somebody starving to death,
+
+986
+01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,702
+you would probably think a lot--
+
+987
+01:03:03,777 --> 01:03:08,976
+like, that would kind of hit you
+in a sensitive place to say,
+
+988
+01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:13,884
+"Oh, maybe markets and money
+and this and that don't really mean as much,
+
+989
+01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:16,946
+and, actually, feeding people
+means a little bit more."
+
+990
+01:03:17,024 --> 01:03:19,959
+Well, it is true that there's
+a personal side of it that--
+
+991
+01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,188
+I have to say, in the WTO
+
+992
+01:03:22,262 --> 01:03:25,925
+there are questions that we have
+about this as human beings,
+
+993
+01:03:25,999 --> 01:03:28,797
+but we're not as subject--
+
+994
+01:03:28,869 --> 01:03:30,860
+we have a kind
+of firmer grasp on theory.
+
+995
+01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:33,770
+We are able, fortunately,
+
+996
+01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,674
+to simply direct world trade
+in a much more theoretical way...
+
+997
+01:03:37,744 --> 01:03:41,407
+in collaboration with our colleagues
+at the largest corporations.
+
+998
+01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:47,317
+So...you know. Yes, probably,
+if I went to these countries,
+
+999
+01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:53,121
+I'd feel...l'd think about things
+a little differently, perhaps.
+
+1000
+01:03:53,193 --> 01:03:56,685
+But, at the same time, I don't think
+I would forget all my schooling.
+
+1001
+01:03:56,763 --> 01:03:59,596
+I don't think I would forget
+all these theories and so on.
+
+1002
+01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:02,999
+So, perhaps one day I'll do that.
+
+1003
+01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:05,368
+This is a money-maker, correct?
+
+1004
+01:04:05,439 --> 01:04:09,307
+Yes. Well, it's a money-maker,
+starvation-solver, sure.
+
+1005
+01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:12,812
+How much did McDonald's pay you to
+come here and speak this garbage to us?
+
+1006
+01:04:12,879 --> 01:04:15,973
+Did I see a mouse with an ear
+growing out of its back?
+
+1007
+01:04:16,049 --> 01:04:19,382
+How are you going to get around
+the cultural and legal implications
+
+1008
+01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,354
+of cannibalism and basically
+asking us to recycle shit?
+
+1009
+01:04:51,151 --> 01:04:55,178
+The reality is that we already
+treat people in the Third World
+
+1010
+01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,723
+far worse than we treat
+our domestic animals.
+
+1011
+01:04:57,791 --> 01:05:02,125
+That's--that's not saying it's right.
+It's just saying that's the reality.
+
+1012
+01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,902
+Well, after thinking about it
+for a little while,
+
+1013
+01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,306
+it seems the Plattsburgh lecture
+just went great,
+
+1014
+01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:20,210
+and it went exactly the way we
+originally expected these lectures to work,
+
+1015
+01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,545
+which is that, at a certain point,
+it was like a light bulb's going off
+
+1016
+01:05:23,617 --> 01:05:26,017
+in the heads of the different people
+in the audience,
+
+1017
+01:05:26,086 --> 01:05:29,681
+and they were realizing that it
+was just too crazy to be real,
+
+1018
+01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:31,917
+and yet it was
+sort of based in reality.
+
+1019
+01:05:31,992 --> 01:05:35,428
+So, you know,
+they started throwing globes at us,
+
+1020
+01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:37,759
+they got angry,
+they got frustrated.
+
+1021
+01:05:37,831 --> 01:05:40,095
+It worked exactly
+like we thought it would.
+
+1022
+01:05:43,837 --> 01:05:45,270
+They don't ask if you believe in it.
+
+1023
+01:05:45,338 --> 01:05:48,432
+You don't get to vote
+on World Trade Organization treaties.
+
+1024
+01:05:48,508 --> 01:05:51,102
+They don't let you vote on it.
+They don't give you a say.
+
+1025
+01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:54,079
+They let you listen
+to the one-sided propaganda.
+
+1026
+01:05:54,147 --> 01:05:57,639
+Name me a single columnist in America
+who doesn't stand up and cheer
+
+1027
+01:05:57,717 --> 01:05:59,878
+under the banner
+of so-called free trade.
+
+1028
+01:05:59,953 --> 01:06:01,511
+There's no public discussion,
+
+1029
+01:06:01,588 --> 01:06:05,422
+there's no dissent
+in any of the political parties.
+
+1030
+01:06:05,492 --> 01:06:08,655
+There's no debate,
+there's no discussion, there's no vote.
+
+1031
+01:06:08,728 --> 01:06:13,665
+In fact, the only nation
+which has called for a vote is Brazil,
+
+1032
+01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:18,397
+which is saying that it
+will not sign any more trade treaties
+
+1033
+01:06:18,471 --> 01:06:20,598
+without a plebiscite of its people.
+
+1034
+01:06:20,674 --> 01:06:24,337
+And the world trade barons
+are losing their damn minds
+
+1035
+01:06:24,411 --> 01:06:29,246
+trying to prevent this type of democracy
+from spreading planet-wide,
+
+1036
+01:06:29,316 --> 01:06:32,979
+'cause once people know what this stuff
+is about and get to vote on it,
+
+1037
+01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,783
+no one's gonna vote themselves
+into poverty.
+
+1038
+01:06:39,826 --> 01:06:42,488
+Here we go.
+"Australia country code."
+
+1039
+01:06:45,332 --> 01:06:47,129
+Australia, 61.
+It's 61.
+
+1040
+01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,360
+Sixty-one.
+
+1041
+01:06:53,473 --> 01:06:57,466
+Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat
+from the WTO.
+
+1042
+01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,206
+- <i>Hello. how are you?</i>
+- Good, thanks. How are you?
+
+1043
+01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,443
+<i>- Where are you now?</i>
+- I'm in New York at the moment.
+
+1044
+01:07:03,516 --> 01:07:05,677
+<i>- In New York, are you?</i>
+- Yes.
+
+1045
+01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:11,156
+Kinnithrung Sprat just called the person
+who's coordinating Sprat's visit.
+
+1046
+01:07:11,224 --> 01:07:15,160
+I'm due in Hong Kong
+the week after this,
+
+1047
+01:07:15,228 --> 01:07:17,219
+and that date is firm,
+
+1048
+01:07:17,297 --> 01:07:22,030
+but my travel to Australia
+is as yet not firm. Yeah.
+
+1049
+01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,265
+She's actually, it turns out,
+been e-mailing all these people
+
+1050
+01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:27,670
+and basically calling journalists
+
+1051
+01:07:27,741 --> 01:07:29,936
+and getting people
+to attend his lecture.
+
+1052
+01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:34,174
+She fully expects him to attend because
+she had spoken to Hildegard West,
+
+1053
+01:07:34,247 --> 01:07:37,375
+Sprat's assistant,
+and Hildegard West had told her
+
+1054
+01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:40,510
+that everything was on
+and Sprat was definitely going.
+
+1055
+01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:43,078
+So now we've just decided
+we really have to go
+
+1056
+01:07:43,156 --> 01:07:46,592
+to honor this arrangement
+with Australia.
+
+1057
+01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,652
+So it's back on now
+after we totally thought it was off.
+
+1058
+01:07:49,729 --> 01:07:53,790
+And instead of giving this lecture that
+we've been planning for, like, nine months,
+
+1059
+01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:57,803
+we're gonna, like, you know,
+just disband the WTO.
+
+1060
+01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,503
+Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes
+that actually are reasonable?
+
+1061
+01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:06,909
+They just don't look like dress shoes.
+They look like wrestling shoes.
+
+1062
+01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,414
+There are no shoes here
+for you. Never mind.
+
+1063
+01:08:09,482 --> 01:08:11,450
+No. Shoes are out.
+
+1064
+01:08:11,518 --> 01:08:12,507
+A tie.
+
+1065
+01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:14,915
+Around, then...
+
+1066
+01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:18,580
+Wait--did you try this?
+
+1067
+01:08:20,193 --> 01:08:21,455
+Yeah.
+
+1068
+01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:27,627
+I did a set of these with inkjet,
+and they just don't look as real.
+
+1069
+01:08:27,701 --> 01:08:29,635
+Something about them.
+They look...
+
+1070
+01:08:29,703 --> 01:08:31,637
+- These look perfect.
+- ...kind of handmade.
+
+1071
+01:08:32,305 --> 01:08:34,136
+I printed off some letterhead for you.
+
+1072
+01:08:34,207 --> 01:08:35,868
+- Nice.
+- You guys already saw that.
+
+1073
+01:08:35,942 --> 01:08:38,308
+- And I just kept it real simple...
+- It's perfect.
+
+1074
+01:08:38,378 --> 01:08:40,778
+...so that it would show up well
+on the fax.
+
+1075
+01:08:41,748 --> 01:08:44,046
+That is the most ridiculous photo.
+
+1076
+01:08:44,117 --> 01:08:48,349
+There's something really weird
+about this maniacal public relations guy.
+
+1077
+01:08:48,421 --> 01:08:51,322
+- A little magnetic strip on the back.
+- A logo of the WTO.
+
+1078
+01:08:51,391 --> 01:08:52,585
+Really beautiful.
+
+1079
+01:08:54,327 --> 01:08:57,490
+You know what I did?
+I went to Google...
+
+1080
+01:08:57,564 --> 01:09:02,399
+and I went to Google image search
+and I typed in, "I.D. card."
+
+1081
+01:09:02,469 --> 01:09:05,961
+And you wouldn't believe
+the number of pictures of I.D. cards
+
+1082
+01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,870
+that show up on the Web.
+
+1083
+01:09:07,941 --> 01:09:10,808
+And I just went through
+and took a little bit from each one.
+
+1084
+01:09:10,877 --> 01:09:14,040
+I said, "All right, this one's got
+a little bar code at the bottom,
+
+1085
+01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:16,344
+and this one uses
+the logo over here."
+
+1086
+01:09:16,416 --> 01:09:18,407
+That is so nice.
+
+1087
+01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:32,190
+- I know.
+- Wow. Airplane.
+
+1088
+01:09:34,534 --> 01:09:36,229
+Where's the rental car area?
+
+1089
+01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,313
+No, I don't know.
+I'm just really nervous
+
+1090
+01:09:58,391 --> 01:10:01,883
+'cause this feels different from all
+the other things that we've done.
+
+1091
+01:10:01,961 --> 01:10:08,696
+It's not like the same kind of play,
+fun, crazy, weird, impossible stuff.
+
+1092
+01:10:08,768 --> 01:10:10,258
+This is sincere, you know.
+
+1093
+01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,203
+It's about replacing the WTO
+with something better.
+
+1094
+01:10:13,273 --> 01:10:16,333
+- Do you think that satire is more fun?
+- Yeah, definitely.
+
+1095
+01:10:16,409 --> 01:10:19,640
+I got this feeling that it's--
+for some reason--
+
+1096
+01:10:19,712 --> 01:10:22,203
+maybe it's less fun to be sincere.
+
+1097
+01:10:22,282 --> 01:10:24,273
+But it is less fun, isn't it?
+
+1098
+01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,181
+In a way, yeah.
+
+1099
+01:10:26,252 --> 01:10:31,849
+Maybe it's more fun
+to be satirical than serious.
+
+1100
+01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:33,085
+Yeah.
+
+1101
+01:10:37,697 --> 01:10:39,790
+It's about 9:00 in the morning,
+
+1102
+01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,426
+and this is the big day
+for Kinnithrung Sprat
+
+1103
+01:10:42,502 --> 01:10:44,402
+to go talk to CPA Australia
+
+1104
+01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,632
+and close down the WTO.
+
+1105
+01:10:46,706 --> 01:10:51,905
+It's kind of an exciting day for us
+'cause we finally get to shut it down.
+
+1106
+01:11:06,226 --> 01:11:10,720
+I'm writing the local phone number
+for this cell phone on the business cards.
+
+1107
+01:11:10,797 --> 01:11:13,732
+So if we give these to journalists
+or anybody else
+
+1108
+01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,533
+who wants to contact Mr. Sprat--they'll be
+able to do it in the next couple days.
+
+1109
+01:11:20,974 --> 01:11:23,135
+We have to leave
+in ten minutes, though.
+
+1110
+01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:24,642
+I know.
+
+1111
+01:11:24,711 --> 01:11:27,544
+I'm just gonna do
+as little as possible.
+
+1112
+01:11:30,683 --> 01:11:34,175
+Okay, let's just go by there.
+We have some time yet.
+
+1113
+01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:36,586
+Let's just keep walking.
+Just walk straight.
+
+1114
+01:11:36,723 --> 01:11:40,716
+Don't look.
+Don't turn left. Don't...
+
+1115
+01:11:40,793 --> 01:11:43,819
+Hey, no. Don't.
+Don't do that.
+
+1116
+01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:46,825
+Answer it.
+
+1117
+01:11:47,767 --> 01:11:49,598
+Hello, Michael Bonanno here.
+
+1118
+01:11:52,505 --> 01:11:54,063
+Hi, Jane. How are you?
+
+1119
+01:11:55,675 --> 01:11:59,111
+All right, then. I guess
+we'll see you in just a few minutes.
+
+1120
+01:11:59,178 --> 01:12:01,510
+And we just come up
+to level three, then?
+
+1121
+01:12:01,581 --> 01:12:04,846
+Great. Thank you very much.
+All right. Bye-bye.
+
+1122
+01:12:04,918 --> 01:12:06,010
+Run!
+
+1123
+01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,687
+Oh, wait. Shit!
+This is the building!
+
+1124
+01:12:13,192 --> 01:12:14,887
+- Thank you for coming.
+- Thank you for having us.
+
+1125
+01:12:14,961 --> 01:12:18,692
+Sorry for the confusion
+and problems and everything else.
+
+1126
+01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,926
+It's to be expected
+these days, I think.
+
+1127
+01:12:21,901 --> 01:12:26,167
+No. Thanks for going out of your way
+to arrange this. This is really terrific.
+
+1128
+01:12:31,811 --> 01:12:34,336
+Thank you all for coming.
+I'd like to...
+
+1129
+01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:38,983
+I'd like to thank the organizers
+for going out of their way
+
+1130
+01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:43,853
+to create this panel,
+this luncheon,
+
+1131
+01:12:43,923 --> 01:12:48,019
+in the face of some odds--the conference
+having been canceled, of course.
+
+1132
+01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:50,756
+And I'd especially like to begin
+
+1133
+01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,664
+by apologizing for a rather sudden
+change in the program,
+
+1134
+01:12:54,734 --> 01:13:01,003
+consequent upon a rather dramatic
+development in Geneva yesterday.
+
+1135
+01:13:01,074 --> 01:13:04,908
+I originally intended to transmit today
+an upbeat report
+
+1136
+01:13:04,978 --> 01:13:09,915
+on some new technologies that affect
+agribusiness in a global sense.
+
+1137
+01:13:09,983 --> 01:13:14,920
+Instead, I find myself the messenger
+of some rather disturbing news.
+
+1138
+01:13:14,988 --> 01:13:17,718
+The WTO will be issuing
+a public statement
+
+1139
+01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:19,985
+in detail by the end of the week.
+
+1140
+01:13:20,059 --> 01:13:22,050
+But the die has been cast.
+
+1141
+01:13:22,128 --> 01:13:24,289
+As of September 2002,
+
+1142
+01:13:24,364 --> 01:13:26,958
+having seen the effects of policies
+
+1143
+01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:30,560
+whose only intent was to bring
+greater prosperity and peace,
+
+1144
+01:13:30,637 --> 01:13:35,438
+the World Trade Organization,
+in its present form, will cease to exist.
+
+1145
+01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,866
+Over the next two years,
+
+1146
+01:13:37,944 --> 01:13:43,007
+we at the WTO will endeavor to re-found
+our organization along different lines,
+
+1147
+01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:47,143
+based in a different understanding
+of the purposes of world trade.
+
+1148
+01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,178
+The new organization will have
+as its foundation and basis
+
+1149
+01:13:51,257 --> 01:13:55,091
+the United Nations'
+Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
+
+1150
+01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:59,564
+upon which we feel
+we can make a good foundation
+
+1151
+01:13:59,632 --> 01:14:02,294
+to ensuring that the organization
+will have human
+
+1152
+01:14:02,368 --> 01:14:05,303
+rather than business interests
+as its bottom line.
+
+1153
+01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,202
+My reaction was one of total surprise.
+
+1154
+01:14:07,273 --> 01:14:09,104
+We were expecting
+a speech more based
+
+1155
+01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:13,111
+on what the World Trade Organization
+does in its relation to Australian trade.
+
+1156
+01:14:13,179 --> 01:14:16,171
+It sort of blew me out of the water
+when the announcement was made
+
+1157
+01:14:16,249 --> 01:14:19,980
+that the World Trade Organization
+is significantly reinventing itself
+
+1158
+01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:25,787
+to focus on issues relating to people
+as opposed to economics--
+
+1159
+01:14:25,858 --> 01:14:28,691
+something that hopefully could be
+of significant benefit
+
+1160
+01:14:28,761 --> 01:14:33,095
+to the poor and needy throughout
+the world in all developing countries.
+
+1161
+01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:37,330
+The U.N. estimates that poor countries--
+the poorest countries in the world--
+
+1162
+01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:43,069
+lose approximately $2 billion a day
+because of unjust trade rules,
+
+1163
+01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:46,407
+many of them instituted
+by our own organization.
+
+1164
+01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,743
+And this is 14 times the amount
+
+1165
+01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:51,545
+that they receive in aid
+from developed countries.
+
+1166
+01:14:52,552 --> 01:14:57,216
+I thought the speech itself was compelling
+in terms of its information.
+
+1167
+01:14:57,290 --> 01:15:02,887
+I was astounded to find that they're
+actually gonna dismantle the WTO.
+
+1168
+01:15:02,962 --> 01:15:07,695
+I was also amazed to see that there was
+a mission that perhaps had failed.
+
+1169
+01:15:07,767 --> 01:15:11,100
+It's gonna have a huge effect
+on international business
+
+1170
+01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:14,333
+and particularly for us
+as an organization, I feel.
+
+1171
+01:15:14,407 --> 01:15:18,138
+The hardest thing, I find,
+will be the balance that, let's say,
+
+1172
+01:15:18,211 --> 01:15:20,736
+the U.S., E.U., and Japan--
+
+1173
+01:15:20,813 --> 01:15:24,544
+in terms of being major components
+of the world economy--
+
+1174
+01:15:24,617 --> 01:15:28,451
+the effect--will they really change
+in terms of this new organization,
+
+1175
+01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,183
+and will there actually
+be genuine change
+
+1176
+01:15:31,257 --> 01:15:34,590
+and perhaps a benefit
+to the world's poorest countries?
+
+1177
+01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,754
+I must admit I'm a cynic
+with regards to that occurring.
+
+1178
+01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,095
+Liberalization--
+the process of liberalization
+
+1179
+01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,226
+often enables
+the knowledge of the poor
+
+1180
+01:15:43,302 --> 01:15:47,170
+to be converted into the property
+of global corporations.
+
+1181
+01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,607
+Specific statistics are rather shocking.
+
+1182
+01:15:50,676 --> 01:15:59,277
+Out of 26,000 patents
+applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001,
+
+1183
+01:15:59,352 --> 01:16:03,186
+only 31 were from residents of Africa.
+
+1184
+01:16:03,256 --> 01:16:06,089
+The rest were from residents
+of first world countries.
+
+1185
+01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,220
+31 out of 26,000 patent applications.
+
+1186
+01:16:10,296 --> 01:16:11,957
+It wasn't what I was expecting.
+
+1187
+01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,022
+I was expecting something
+on agribusiness
+
+1188
+01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,591
+and what
+the World Trade Organization does.
+
+1189
+01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:20,264
+But I'd have to say
+I believe it's fairly positive
+
+1190
+01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:24,070
+because I think that,
+as the gentleman said,
+
+1191
+01:16:24,143 --> 01:16:27,510
+the strong are getting stronger,
+and the weak are getting weaker.
+
+1192
+01:16:27,580 --> 01:16:29,411
+And you can't let that keep on going.
+
+1193
+01:16:29,482 --> 01:16:31,313
+Even we notice it here in Australia
+
+1194
+01:16:31,384 --> 01:16:34,979
+with some of the trade arrangements
+that are made.
+
+1195
+01:16:35,054 --> 01:16:37,318
+If you're powerful,
+you can get whatever you like,
+
+1196
+01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:39,221
+and if you're not, you can't.
+
+1197
+01:16:39,292 --> 01:16:42,784
+The world, with the population we've got,
+can't keep going that way.
+
+1198
+01:16:42,862 --> 01:16:44,454
+So I think it was fairly positive,
+
+1199
+01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,192
+and I think it's a very brave decision
+by an organization
+
+1200
+01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,758
+to admit that they've been going down
+the wrong track and dissolve themselves
+
+1201
+01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:54,637
+and start to look for something different.
+And I think it's fantastic.
+
+1202
+01:16:54,707 --> 01:16:57,039
+Disparity is growing
+between rich and poor.
+
+1203
+01:16:57,109 --> 01:16:59,600
+The richest fifth have 80%
+of the world's income,
+
+1204
+01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,011
+and the poorest fifth have 1%.
+
+1205
+01:17:02,081 --> 01:17:04,140
+This gap--we all know this figure,
+
+1206
+01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:09,814
+but we don't always remember that
+this gap has actually doubled since 1960.
+
+1207
+01:17:09,889 --> 01:17:13,222
+More and more thinkers
+are therefore noting
+
+1208
+01:17:13,292 --> 01:17:16,784
+that there is no evidence
+that liberalization favors growth
+
+1209
+01:17:16,863 --> 01:17:18,592
+or benefits the poor.
+
+1210
+01:17:18,664 --> 01:17:21,326
+I think we're all generally aware
+of increases in poverty
+
+1211
+01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,494
+and low living standards and issues
+faced by developing countries.
+
+1212
+01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:28,734
+And what Mr. Sprat had to say today
+really is a terrific sign of hope
+
+1213
+01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:31,834
+for what I think we all aspire to,
+
+1214
+01:17:31,911 --> 01:17:35,847
+and that's a global economy
+that benefits all people.
+
+1215
+01:17:44,056 --> 01:17:47,958
+Now, after protected, protracted,
+and detailed review
+
+1216
+01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:51,793
+of current trade policy,
+the World Trade Organization has decided
+
+1217
+01:17:51,864 --> 01:17:54,856
+to affect a cessation of all operations
+
+1218
+01:17:54,934 --> 01:17:57,425
+to be accomplished
+over the next four months
+
+1219
+01:17:57,503 --> 01:18:00,939
+culminating by the end of September...
+
+1220
+01:18:01,007 --> 01:18:03,840
+Well, I think that the Yes Men
+
+1221
+01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:05,639
+have kind of played out their course
+
+1222
+01:18:05,711 --> 01:18:08,874
+in relation to the World Trade
+Organization for the moment.
+
+1223
+01:18:08,948 --> 01:18:12,145
+You never know when we
+might get another invitation.
+
+1224
+01:18:12,218 --> 01:18:17,520
+We were lucky to be able to provide a sort
+of sense of closure by ending the WTO.
+
+1225
+01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,582
+We also hope that other people
+will just start doing the same things
+
+1226
+01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:22,491
+in all kinds of different contexts--
+
+1227
+01:18:22,561 --> 01:18:28,022
+impersonating whoever holds power
+that needs to be criticized.
+
+1228
+01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,160
+So if the opportunity arises,
+we're just gonna keep doing it.
+
+1229
+01:18:31,237 --> 01:18:34,638
+We're gonna go and...
+be the Yes Men again,
+
+1230
+01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,642
+or I should say,
+be the WTO again in another event.
+
+1231
+01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,543
+The future's bright for the Yes Men.
+
+1232
+01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,549
+The future of the world
+is a different story.
+
+1233
+01:19:19,185 --> 01:19:22,586
+No, this isn't the way
+he usually dresses.
+
+1234
+01:19:22,655 --> 01:19:26,182
+He works for the World Trade
+Organization--you know, the WTO.
+
+1235
+01:19:26,258 --> 01:19:29,421
+He works--
+see, we're at a conference,
+
+1236
+01:19:29,495 --> 01:19:33,261
+and he's demonstrating
+a new kind of technology.
+
+1237
+01:19:33,332 --> 01:19:38,292
+This is--well, it's a device
+to measure employee working
+
+1238
+01:19:38,371 --> 01:19:40,498
+in less developed countries.
+
+1239
+01:19:40,573 --> 01:19:44,304
+There's a thing here where...
+
+1240
+01:19:44,377 --> 01:19:48,279
+on this screen I can see...
+
+1241
+01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:51,316
+See, he watches people working there.
+
+1242
+01:19:51,384 --> 01:19:54,444
+And they have little devices
+that give them shocks.
+
+1243
+01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,511
+It's just regular fabric.
+
+1244
+01:19:56,589 --> 01:19:59,922
+In the future,
+it'll be sensitive-smart fabric.
+
+1245
+01:19:59,992 --> 01:20:01,584
+It's a little hot, but...
+
+1246
+01:20:02,862 --> 01:20:04,193
+That one looks better.
+