diff --git a/WdpF/Yes-Men-Uebersetzung/de.srt b/WdpF/Yes-Men-Uebersetzung/de.srt index 51e5848..d323f5d 100644 --- a/WdpF/Yes-Men-Uebersetzung/de.srt +++ b/WdpF/Yes-Men-Uebersetzung/de.srt @@ -1,5917 +1,5917 @@ -1 -00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:35,371 -Jeez, this is terrible. - -2 -00:00:35,449 --> 00:00:37,508 -It's the stupidest. -I can't-- - -3 -00:00:39,052 --> 00:00:41,987 -It's an hour's difference. -The time zone is different here. - -4 -00:00:42,989 --> 00:00:46,584 -Fuck. It's unbelievable. -How the fuck can that happen? - -5 -00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:48,150 -Okay. Here. - -6 -00:00:48,228 --> 00:00:50,492 -Okay, there. That's done. -Now what? - -7 -00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:51,895 -Okay. Got it. Okay. - -8 -00:00:51,965 --> 00:00:53,455 -Pull it up. - -9 -00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,967 -Okay, now let's get your... - -10 -00:01:03,710 --> 00:01:07,373 -A few years ago, we wanted to... - -11 -00:01:07,447 --> 00:01:11,042 -try to help out with some activist's -anti-corporate activities. - -12 -00:01:11,118 --> 00:01:14,281 -And we heard about this website -called rtmark.com. - -13 -00:01:14,354 --> 00:01:16,584 -And we went there, and they-- - -14 -00:01:16,656 --> 00:01:19,489 -they handed us a domain name-- -gwbush.com-- - -15 -00:01:19,559 --> 00:01:21,686 -and asked us if we might like -to make a website - -16 -00:01:21,762 --> 00:01:23,821 -that was critical of George Bush. - -17 -00:01:23,897 --> 00:01:27,628 -Because George Bush's real -domain name was georgewbush.com. - -18 -00:01:27,701 --> 00:01:31,296 -And this was 1999, -so it was just during the campaign - -19 -00:01:31,371 --> 00:01:33,498 -when he was beginning -to run for president. - -20 -00:01:33,573 --> 00:01:36,167 -And we didn't really know -quite what to do, - -21 -00:01:36,243 --> 00:01:38,575 -so we went to Bush's website -and looked at it. - -22 -00:01:38,645 --> 00:01:41,375 -And it turned out to be full -of strange hypocrisies, like, - -23 -00:01:41,448 --> 00:01:44,508 -for example, he called himself -"The environmental governor of Texas," - -24 -00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:47,678 -but we looked a little closer -at his record and found out - -25 -00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:51,212 -that he had actually created -the most polluted state in the country - -26 -00:01:51,291 --> 00:01:54,089 -because he dismantled -the Clean Air Laws while he was there. - -27 -00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:56,891 -And, actually, that's, I guess, -what he's doing now nationally. - -28 -00:01:56,963 --> 00:01:59,158 -So we thought, -"Well, this kind of hypocrisy - -29 -00:01:59,232 --> 00:02:02,395 -we can easily poke fun at -by making a satire website." - -30 -00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:05,199 -And we made this satire website -that looked exactly like Bush's - -31 -00:02:05,272 --> 00:02:07,604 -except for a few key differences. - -32 -00:02:07,674 --> 00:02:10,165 -Like there was a photo on the banner-- - -33 -00:02:10,243 --> 00:02:14,976 -instead of him and his wife -in front of the capitol building in Texas, - -34 -00:02:15,048 --> 00:02:17,915 -we showed him pointing the finger -at black people. - -35 -00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:21,579 -And this seemed to get him -a little bit angry. - -36 -00:02:21,655 --> 00:02:23,589 -So the Bush campaign -tried to shut us down - -37 -00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:25,648 -by sending us -a cease and desist letter - -38 -00:02:25,725 --> 00:02:28,125 -and by complaining -to the Federal Election Commission. - -39 -00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:30,459 -But we were able -to just take those threats - -40 -00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:32,964 -and send them to the media. - -41 -00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,092 -And immediately the New York Times -wrote an article, - -42 -00:02:35,168 --> 00:02:37,102 -and there were a whole bunch -of other articles. - -43 -00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:39,832 -In fact, one reporter -read these articles and, - -44 -00:02:39,906 --> 00:02:42,238 -at a press conference, -asked Bush, - -45 -00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:45,904 -"So, what about this website-- -gwbush.com--what do you think of that?" - -46 -00:03:10,937 --> 00:03:12,268 -So it was all over the place. - -47 -00:03:12,339 --> 00:03:13,931 -A lot of people read about it, - -48 -00:03:14,007 --> 00:03:18,000 -including a guy who had another -domain name called gatt.org. - -49 -00:03:18,078 --> 00:03:21,241 -And, of course, GATT is the -Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, - -50 -00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:24,477 -and it's the predecessor agreement -to the World Trade Organization. - -51 -00:03:24,551 --> 00:03:26,951 -And he said, -"If you could do this for Bush, - -52 -00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,955 -then maybe you can -also do this for the WTO." - -53 -00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:36,491 -The WTO is supposed to be -sort of a United Nations of commerce, - -54 -00:03:36,563 --> 00:03:40,727 -a conglomeration -of all these countries in the world... - -55 -00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,395 -that get together every now and then -to discuss trade policies - -56 -00:03:44,471 --> 00:03:50,239 -in how exactly goods will be bought -and sold throughout the world. - -57 -00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:54,076 -I'm sure, originally, -the stated purpose of the WTO - -58 -00:03:54,147 --> 00:03:57,878 -was to help these countries -who are developing - -59 -00:03:57,951 --> 00:04:02,479 -so that, you know, the world community -can help raise them out of poverty. - -60 -00:04:02,556 --> 00:04:05,787 -In fact, what it's done is -it's allowed large corporations - -61 -00:04:05,859 --> 00:04:09,351 -to go in and exploit these people -even further - -62 -00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:12,296 -so that Americans -become even wealthier - -63 -00:04:12,365 --> 00:04:16,699 -and the people in these countries -continue to struggle to get by. - -64 -00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:22,402 -And I think that's-- -at this point it's upset quite a few people. - -65 -00:04:37,557 --> 00:04:40,458 -So I gotta try -and remember where Sal lives. - -66 -00:04:40,527 --> 00:04:45,362 -It's a little bit complicated. There's, like, -this snaking road up over the hills. - -67 -00:04:45,432 --> 00:04:47,263 -And who is Sal? - -68 -00:04:47,334 --> 00:04:51,202 -Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego, - -69 -00:04:51,271 --> 00:04:55,002 -and he moved to L.A. -to work in the movie industry, - -70 -00:04:55,075 --> 00:04:59,239 -and that's why now he does, -actually, costuming professionally. - -71 -00:04:59,312 --> 00:05:01,473 -He builds, like, weird suits - -72 -00:05:01,548 --> 00:05:04,813 -out of pretty much -any material you can imagine. - -73 -00:05:04,884 --> 00:05:08,183 -And so, when we needed a costume, -I knew who to call. - -74 -00:05:18,798 --> 00:05:20,129 -Yeah, this is it. Yeah. - -75 -00:05:22,435 --> 00:05:26,838 -I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually, -as long as we're at it here. - -76 -00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:29,268 -- Yeah--I don't like it. -- Okay. - -77 -00:05:29,342 --> 00:05:34,245 -It looks too much like sex stuff -instead of--it's not very modern-looking. - -78 -00:05:34,314 --> 00:05:37,715 -Remember, this is the future. -This isn't about, like, straps and stuff. - -79 -00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:40,150 -That's like dungeons and torture -in the past. - -80 -00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,553 -The costume -is a manager's leisure suit. - -81 -00:05:43,623 --> 00:05:46,285 -And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh, - -82 -00:05:46,359 --> 00:05:48,919 -the representative -from the World Trade Organization, - -83 -00:05:48,995 --> 00:05:52,897 -is going to go and wear -this breakaway business suit - -84 -00:05:52,966 --> 00:05:54,456 -that's gonna be pulled off of him - -85 -00:05:54,534 --> 00:05:57,128 -during the middle -of the keynote address to the conference. - -86 -00:05:57,203 --> 00:06:01,435 -And then a big inflatable phallus -is going to emerge from this golden suit, - -87 -00:06:01,508 --> 00:06:03,442 -and on the end of it is a TV screen - -88 -00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,775 -that he uses -to manage sweatshops remotely. - -89 -00:06:08,048 --> 00:06:10,107 -The reason we got invited -to these things - -90 -00:06:10,183 --> 00:06:12,413 -is we have a website -called gatt.org. - -91 -00:06:12,485 --> 00:06:16,285 -The gatt.org website looks a lot -like the WTO website, - -92 -00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:19,519 -but it is critical of the WTO. - -93 -00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:21,753 -Most people, though, -who find gatt.org - -94 -00:06:21,828 --> 00:06:25,320 -by searching -for the World Trade Organization... - -95 -00:06:25,398 --> 00:06:28,890 -will go without reading it -and will send us e-mail directly. - -96 -00:06:28,968 --> 00:06:32,768 -So a lot of people ask us -weird questions about tariffs and trade, - -97 -00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,239 -and we try to answer -as accurately as we can. - -98 -00:06:35,308 --> 00:06:37,367 -And occasionally invitations come in - -99 -00:06:37,444 --> 00:06:41,175 -from official -or quasi-official organizations - -100 -00:06:41,247 --> 00:06:44,648 -asking for opinions -or asking us to attend a conference. - -101 -00:06:44,718 --> 00:06:48,381 -And so, when they ask, they really think -they're talking to the WTO, - -102 -00:06:48,455 --> 00:06:52,516 -and we respond by giving them -what we think they want-- - -103 -00:06:52,592 --> 00:06:54,992 -which is the opinions of the WTO-- - -104 -00:06:55,061 --> 00:06:57,222 -as accurately -as we can represent them. - -105 -00:06:57,297 --> 00:06:59,959 -You know what I'm thinking, -actually, looking at this... - -106 -00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:03,227 -is that maybe this is a zipper. - -107 -00:07:03,303 --> 00:07:04,361 -Yeah! Yeah, yeah. - -108 -00:07:04,437 --> 00:07:07,167 -Then he just unzips it -and pulls the thing at the same time. - -109 -00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,105 -- That could be really good. -- Because... - -110 -00:07:09,175 --> 00:07:13,168 -to have it burst out of the Velcro, -it might not be strong enough to burst out, - -111 -00:07:13,246 --> 00:07:14,941 -and then he'd have to pull it. - -112 -00:07:15,348 --> 00:07:17,213 -Part of the thing -that gives us the courage - -113 -00:07:17,283 --> 00:07:23,347 -to go to Tampere... -with this really absurd suit - -114 -00:07:23,423 --> 00:07:26,415 -is that we already went -to Salzburg, Austria, to represent - -115 -00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:30,486 -the World Trade Organization -at a conference on tariffs and trade. - -116 -00:07:30,563 --> 00:07:35,762 -There, our representative--the same guy -who is Hank Hardy Unruh here-- - -117 -00:07:35,835 --> 00:07:38,770 -was Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer there. - -118 -00:07:38,838 --> 00:07:40,772 -And he gave a lecture that focused - -119 -00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,675 -on basically doing away with -all customs in the name of free trade, - -120 -00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:49,306 -like getting rid of the siesta -in Spain and Italy - -121 -00:07:49,382 --> 00:07:52,112 -so that business hours -could be the same. - -122 -00:07:52,185 --> 00:07:55,313 -In Italy, on the other hand, -you have a totally different situation, - -123 -00:07:55,388 --> 00:08:01,054 -in which sleep is...done during -the day as much as at night almost. - -124 -00:08:01,127 --> 00:08:05,860 -And allowing people to sell their votes -over the Internet to the highest bidder - -125 -00:08:05,932 --> 00:08:10,665 -so that the barriers to free trade -and things like votes were out of the way. - -126 -00:08:10,737 --> 00:08:14,673 -One possible solution is being tested -in the field of American politics - -127 -00:08:14,741 --> 00:08:19,508 -to streamline the grotesquely -inefficient system of elections. - -128 -00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:24,573 -Vote-auction.com, in turn, -employs only four people - -129 -00:08:24,651 --> 00:08:27,085 -to transmit not merely information, - -130 -00:08:27,153 --> 00:08:30,782 -but actual money -directly to the consuming voter. - -131 -00:08:30,857 --> 00:08:37,854 -It's a--a forum for people voluntarily -to offer their vote to the highest bidder. - -132 -00:08:37,931 --> 00:08:39,865 -And despite giving what we thought - -133 -00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,266 -was a lecture that would immediately -get us booed off stage - -134 -00:08:43,336 --> 00:08:46,169 -or get Bichlbauer -maybe even thrown in jail - -135 -00:08:46,239 --> 00:08:48,639 -because people would figure out -he was an impostor, - -136 -00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,300 -the exact opposite happened. - -137 -00:08:50,376 --> 00:08:52,037 -Everybody was super polite. - -138 -00:08:52,111 --> 00:08:57,242 -It didn't seem like everybody even noticed -that what he said was so absurd. - -139 -00:09:18,938 --> 00:09:20,269 -Well, so far... - -140 -00:09:21,708 --> 00:09:24,700 -...we thought Bichlbauer -would be very extreme - -141 -00:09:24,777 --> 00:09:27,769 -and people would react to it -and we'd get shut down, - -142 -00:09:27,847 --> 00:09:30,247 -and nothing of the sort happened. - -143 -00:09:30,316 --> 00:09:34,650 -So...this time we just have to really -push it and make it totally extreme. - -144 -00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:37,053 -I mean, we keep trying -to push things further - -145 -00:09:37,123 --> 00:09:43,062 -to try to really clarify the positions -of the WTO to make them very legible. - -146 -00:09:43,129 --> 00:09:45,597 -It's one back, -but this--this is good. - -147 -00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:56,798 -Andy. - -148 -00:09:59,045 --> 00:10:00,535 -It has a terrible siren. - -149 -00:10:06,119 --> 00:10:08,110 -I have to check the Web -when we get upstairs. - -150 -00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:10,121 -Oh, my God. What are we -gonna do about this-- - -151 -00:10:10,189 --> 00:10:12,623 -we gotta watch the Patrick video. - -152 -00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:15,524 -It's weird stuff, isn't it? - -153 -00:10:16,863 --> 00:10:18,524 -That's one way of putting it. - -154 -00:10:18,598 --> 00:10:20,259 -It's really a problem. - -155 -00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:24,599 -It seems about the weirdest -I've seen from him ever, I think. - -156 -00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,871 -It looks pretty good on this. - -157 -00:10:29,776 --> 00:10:31,038 -Yeah, it's all right. - -158 -00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:39,109 -What we have here is that we have -our cyber Andy here - -159 -00:10:39,185 --> 00:10:42,120 -who's going to be wearing the suit. - -160 -00:10:42,188 --> 00:10:45,783 -And I'm going to be showing -all the different ways - -161 -00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:50,693 -in which the Management Leisure Suit -can be useful in industry today - -162 -00:10:50,763 --> 00:10:54,927 -and maximize leisure potential. - -163 -00:10:56,369 --> 00:10:59,634 -Sometimes I don't think they know -what the hell to expect out of me. - -164 -00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,103 -What I'll come up with... - -165 -00:11:04,177 --> 00:11:09,240 -is frequently not exactly -what they had in mind, - -166 -00:11:09,315 --> 00:11:12,580 -but it's...you know, - -167 -00:11:12,652 --> 00:11:16,816 -it fits in perfectly with what they're-- -what they're going to do. - -168 -00:11:17,623 --> 00:11:19,955 -Well, I came out -of a corporate environment - -169 -00:11:20,026 --> 00:11:25,760 -and a company that I really gave, -you know, a good bit of my soul to - -170 -00:11:25,832 --> 00:11:28,232 -over a long period of time progressively. - -171 -00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:31,429 -And there were a lot of downsizings -and, of course, - -172 -00:11:31,504 --> 00:11:35,099 -the company I was with I thought -was gonna take care of me. - -173 -00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:38,007 -And I realized -that the bottom line is the bottom line, - -174 -00:11:38,077 --> 00:11:42,480 -and there really isn't any humanity -in corporate structures, - -175 -00:11:42,548 --> 00:11:46,882 -so therefore I hope that maybe -being part of the Yes Men - -176 -00:11:46,953 --> 00:11:51,686 -might, in some way, help raise issues -about global work issues - -177 -00:11:51,758 --> 00:11:56,422 -and social issues that are being -brought about by globalization, etcetera. - -178 -00:11:59,098 --> 00:12:01,157 -I grew up in the suburbs here, - -179 -00:12:01,234 --> 00:12:07,537 -and then I moved to Troy six years ago -for a job at the university. - -180 -00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:11,976 -There's a place there called Rensselaer -Polytechnic Institute, and I teach there. - -181 -00:12:12,045 --> 00:12:14,377 -I was moving back home, really, -because I'd been away-- - -182 -00:12:14,447 --> 00:12:17,416 -I'd been on the West Coast -for about 12 years. - -183 -00:12:17,483 --> 00:12:18,643 -Wait, what is this? - -184 -00:12:18,718 --> 00:12:21,050 -This is--it's this... - -185 -00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,022 -...SimCopter hack. -Here it is. - -186 -00:12:25,091 --> 00:12:27,889 -I wanted to watch this tape -'cause this is the tape-- - -187 -00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,726 -I've been cleaning out the archives, -and I found this tape in there. - -188 -00:12:31,798 --> 00:12:34,892 -I met Andy through a friend, actually. -A mutual friend. - -189 -00:12:34,967 --> 00:12:38,130 -Actually, two people -that we both knew - -190 -00:12:38,204 --> 00:12:41,173 -suggested that me and Andy -get in contact with one another - -191 -00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,572 -because we'd both -done similar projects. - -192 -00:12:43,643 --> 00:12:47,977 -One of the jobs that I had was -at this games company called Maxis - -193 -00:12:48,047 --> 00:12:49,776 -that makes SimCity. - -194 -00:12:49,849 --> 00:12:54,513 -One of the games they were making -at the time was SimCopter. - -195 -00:12:54,587 --> 00:12:57,420 -I was in charge of the little people -that run around in the game. - -196 -00:12:57,490 --> 00:13:00,948 -And I made them -wearing nothing but swim trunks. - -197 -00:13:01,027 --> 00:13:04,428 -They'd all be boys, and they'd -be running around kissing each other. - -198 -00:13:04,497 --> 00:13:08,092 -So all the people who ordered -this very popular video game - -199 -00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:12,331 -suddenly were treated -to a completely different spectacle. - -200 -00:13:12,405 --> 00:13:14,600 -So he got a lot -of press attention for it, - -201 -00:13:14,674 --> 00:13:18,166 -and it was seen as a kind of-- -an activist kind of statement - -202 -00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:21,680 -about video games and the sort -of macho nature of them. - -203 -00:13:21,747 --> 00:13:23,681 -It all involves -the unexpected appearance - -204 -00:13:23,749 --> 00:13:27,150 -of some gay, kissing muscle men -every Friday the 13th. - -205 -00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:30,053 -He's becoming a celebrity of sorts -in the computer world-- - -206 -00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:32,182 -especially the gay computer world. - -207 -00:13:32,258 --> 00:13:35,523 -And then I had done a project -using Barbie dolls, - -208 -00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:39,031 -where we switched the voice boxes -of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes. - -209 -00:13:39,098 --> 00:13:43,262 -Troops! Attack that Cobra jet -with heavy firepower! - -210 -00:13:44,504 --> 00:13:48,998 -And that ended up in G.I. Joes that -said things like, "I love to shop with you," - -211 -00:13:49,075 --> 00:13:53,068 -and Barbie dolls that said things like, -"Dead men tell no lies." - -212 -00:13:53,146 --> 00:13:56,240 -And we got them back -on store shelves - -213 -00:13:56,315 --> 00:14:00,183 -all over the country in what we called -our "Shop Giving Program." - -214 -00:14:00,253 --> 00:14:02,084 -We're like Santa Claus, -only less radical, - -215 -00:14:02,155 --> 00:14:04,715 -because Santa Claus -breaks into people's houses. We don't. - -216 -00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:07,156 -So that when kids -got them at Christmas, - -217 -00:14:07,226 --> 00:14:08,955 -they were surprised to find their doll - -218 -00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,360 -saying something other -than what they expected. - -219 -00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:15,423 -And the kids thought it was hilarious. -They loved having these crazy dolls. - -220 -00:14:15,501 --> 00:14:16,991 -We sent out press releases, - -221 -00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:21,130 -so it was in the news on Christmas Day -and for the week following. - -222 -00:14:21,207 --> 00:14:26,008 -It just went through every kind -of media channel imaginable. - -223 -00:14:26,078 --> 00:14:28,842 -- The B.L.O... -- The Mission of the B.L.O... - -224 -00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:32,146 -The Barbie Liberation Organization-- -the B.L.O... - -225 -00:14:32,218 --> 00:14:36,814 -It was real funny 'cause it looks -like, "Come on, fight me. Fight me!" - -226 -00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:39,619 -- Except it says... -- I love school. Don't you? - -227 -00:14:39,692 --> 00:14:41,023 -Let's sing with the band tonight! - -228 -00:14:41,093 --> 00:14:42,754 -Now we're--with the Yes Men, - -229 -00:14:42,828 --> 00:14:46,559 -we're calling that sort of basic idea -"Identity Correction," - -230 -00:14:46,632 --> 00:14:48,361 -like saying, these things-- - -231 -00:14:48,434 --> 00:14:51,699 -these things that are not -really presenting themselves honestly - -232 -00:14:51,771 --> 00:14:55,434 -or that hide something about their nature -that's really scary, - -233 -00:14:55,508 --> 00:14:56,839 -we want to bring that out. - -234 -00:14:56,909 --> 00:14:59,241 -We want to show that. -We want to demonstrate that. - -235 -00:14:59,312 --> 00:15:02,145 -And so, like for the WTO-- - -236 -00:15:02,215 --> 00:15:04,046 -we think that the WTO - -237 -00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,778 -is doing all these terrible things -that are hurting people - -238 -00:15:06,852 --> 00:15:08,843 -and they're saying the exact opposite. - -239 -00:15:08,921 --> 00:15:11,913 -And so we're interested -in correcting their identity. - -240 -00:15:11,991 --> 00:15:15,483 -In the same way that an identity thief -steals somebody's identity - -241 -00:15:15,561 --> 00:15:19,395 -in order to basically -just engage in criminal practices, - -242 -00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:21,797 -we target people -we see as criminals, - -243 -00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,461 -and we steal their identity -to try to make them honest - -244 -00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,801 -or to try to present -a more honest face. - -245 -00:15:26,872 --> 00:15:29,864 -And so...you know, -I guess this whole thing - -246 -00:15:29,942 --> 00:15:32,433 -has its roots for both me and Andy - -247 -00:15:32,511 --> 00:15:34,843 -in stuff that we've been doing -for a long time, - -248 -00:15:34,914 --> 00:15:38,577 -which is trying to create public spectacles -that, in some kind of poetic way, - -249 -00:15:38,651 --> 00:15:43,179 -reveal something about our culture -that's profoundly a problem. - -250 -00:15:58,371 --> 00:15:59,736 -That must be Sal. - -251 -00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:04,006 -- Oh, dude. -- Are you okay? - -252 -00:16:04,076 --> 00:16:06,067 -I got fuckin' lost on that... - -253 -00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:07,476 -Oh, no. - -254 -00:16:09,515 --> 00:16:11,005 -It's been a long day. - -255 -00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:12,482 -Holy shit! - -256 -00:16:13,786 --> 00:16:18,723 -Well, I probably started it -in June or July. - -257 -00:16:19,358 --> 00:16:23,124 -So, on and off -for a good two to three months. - -258 -00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:27,131 -Just a couple more pieces -of Velcro, and that'll really be it. - -259 -00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:30,691 -And, yeah, we're... -at the end of the line. - -260 -00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:35,767 -Okay, look. -So we're making a list here. - -261 -00:16:35,841 --> 00:16:38,571 -Wednesday we leave -for Finland early, - -262 -00:16:38,644 --> 00:16:41,511 -so, Sunday... - -263 -00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,911 -make lecture. - -264 -00:16:42,982 --> 00:16:44,916 -Bigger? -Oh, no. That's a big one. - -265 -00:16:44,984 --> 00:16:51,150 -PowerPoint... -and then speech. - -266 -00:16:51,223 --> 00:16:52,281 -Finish. - -267 -00:17:04,403 --> 00:17:11,070 -It's 4:03 a.m., and I guess -I'll just keep working until morning. - -268 -00:17:11,143 --> 00:17:13,475 -I feel...somewhat awake. - -269 -00:17:13,546 --> 00:17:16,538 -And then Andy can take over again. - -270 -00:17:17,983 --> 00:17:21,475 -We can do -around-the-clock shifts, I guess. - -271 -00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:28,090 -I'm just trying to add a few slides -into the PowerPoint here. - -272 -00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,690 -Because, actually, a lot of the things -that business leaders of the world - -273 -00:17:34,767 --> 00:17:39,170 -say in relation to these issues -are actually sort of very similar - -274 -00:17:39,238 --> 00:17:40,899 -to what Unruh Hank Hardy says, - -275 -00:17:40,973 --> 00:17:44,875 -even though maybe Unruh Hank Hardy -is a little bit more frank about it. - -276 -00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:47,970 -And, in fact, -when he talked to CNBC, - -277 -00:17:48,047 --> 00:17:49,378 -when he was debating, - -278 -00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:52,440 -an activist, Barry Coates, -just sort of agreed with what he said - -279 -00:17:52,518 --> 00:17:56,352 -when he said that this is what -the WTO does, and this is our position. - -280 -00:17:56,422 --> 00:18:01,086 -And Barry Coates said, -"Well, that's funny. That's exactly right." - -281 -00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:09,090 -So...after Salzburg, we got an e-mail -asking a representative of the WTO - -282 -00:18:09,168 --> 00:18:12,228 -to appear on CNBC -MarketWrap Europe. - -283 -00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:18,971 -And the producer apparently didn't notice -that gatt.org was not the WTO site. - -284 -00:18:19,044 --> 00:18:25,347 -And Granwyth Hulatberi, which is -another name that Andy just came up with, - -285 -00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:28,012 -responded and, of course, said, - -286 -00:18:28,087 --> 00:18:31,579 -"Well, I'd be happy to go -on CNBC MarketWrap." - -287 -00:18:31,657 --> 00:18:37,493 -And the producer wanted him to debate -an anti-globalization protester. - -288 -00:18:37,563 --> 00:18:43,661 -If the WTO is serious about addressing -the issues of world poverty, - -289 -00:18:43,736 --> 00:18:47,228 -it would do things -completely differently than it is now. - -290 -00:18:47,306 --> 00:18:50,901 -Let me bring in Granwyth on that. -Is that a fair point? - -291 -00:18:52,077 --> 00:18:56,480 -Well, of course it is, but I think Barry, -as well as all the other protesters, - -292 -00:18:56,549 --> 00:19:01,646 -are simply, in a word, focused too much -on reality and on facts and figures. - -293 -00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,212 -And I think I would have to say -that this is a long-term problem - -294 -00:19:05,291 --> 00:19:07,782 -that comes down -to a problem of education. - -295 -00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:12,354 -We have to find a way to convince -perhaps not the protesters - -296 -00:19:12,431 --> 00:19:14,262 -but the protesters' children - -297 -00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:20,067 -to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman -and Darwin and--and so on, - -298 -00:19:20,139 --> 00:19:23,074 -rather than what the protesters -have been reared on-- - -299 -00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:26,202 -Trotsky and Robespierre -and Abbie Hoffman. - -300 +1 +00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:35,371 +Jeez, this is terrible. + +2 +00:00:35,449 --> 00:00:37,508 +It's the stupidest. +I can't-- + +3 +00:00:39,052 --> 00:00:41,987 +It's an hour's difference. +The time zone is different here. + +4 +00:00:42,989 --> 00:00:46,584 +Fuck. It's unbelievable. +How the fuck can that happen? + +5 +00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:48,150 +Okay. Here. + +6 +00:00:48,228 --> 00:00:50,492 +Okay, there. That's done. +Now what? + +7 +00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:51,895 +Okay. Got it. Okay. + +8 +00:00:51,965 --> 00:00:53,455 +Pull it up. + +9 +00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,967 +Okay, now let's get your... + +10 +00:01:03,710 --> 00:01:07,373 +A few years ago, we wanted to... + +11 +00:01:07,447 --> 00:01:11,042 +try to help out with some activist's +anti-corporate activities. + +12 +00:01:11,118 --> 00:01:14,281 +And we heard about this website +called rtmark.com. + +13 +00:01:14,354 --> 00:01:16,584 +And we went there, and they-- + +14 +00:01:16,656 --> 00:01:19,489 +they handed us a domain name-- +gwbush.com-- + +15 +00:01:19,559 --> 00:01:21,686 +and asked us if we might like +to make a website + +16 +00:01:21,762 --> 00:01:23,821 +that was critical of George Bush. + +17 +00:01:23,897 --> 00:01:27,628 +Because George Bush's real +domain name was georgewbush.com. + +18 +00:01:27,701 --> 00:01:31,296 +And this was 1999, +so it was just during the campaign + +19 +00:01:31,371 --> 00:01:33,498 +when he was beginning +to run for president. + +20 +00:01:33,573 --> 00:01:36,167 +And we didn't really know +quite what to do, + +21 +00:01:36,243 --> 00:01:38,575 +so we went to Bush's website +and looked at it. + +22 +00:01:38,645 --> 00:01:41,375 +And it turned out to be full +of strange hypocrisies, like, + +23 +00:01:41,448 --> 00:01:44,508 +for example, he called himself +"The environmental governor of Texas," + +24 +00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:47,678 +but we looked a little closer +at his record and found out + +25 +00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:51,212 +that he had actually created +the most polluted state in the country + +26 +00:01:51,291 --> 00:01:54,089 +because he dismantled +the Clean Air Laws while he was there. + +27 +00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:56,891 +And, actually, that's, I guess, +what he's doing now nationally. + +28 +00:01:56,963 --> 00:01:59,158 +So we thought, +"Well, this kind of hypocrisy + +29 +00:01:59,232 --> 00:02:02,395 +we can easily poke fun at +by making a satire website." + +30 +00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:05,199 +And we made this satire website +that looked exactly like Bush's + +31 +00:02:05,272 --> 00:02:07,604 +except for a few key differences. + +32 +00:02:07,674 --> 00:02:10,165 +Like there was a photo on the banner-- + +33 +00:02:10,243 --> 00:02:14,976 +instead of him and his wife +in front of the capitol building in Texas, + +34 +00:02:15,048 --> 00:02:17,915 +we showed him pointing the finger +at black people. + +35 +00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:21,579 +And this seemed to get him +a little bit angry. + +36 +00:02:21,655 --> 00:02:23,589 +So the Bush campaign +tried to shut us down + +37 +00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:25,648 +by sending us +a cease and desist letter + +38 +00:02:25,725 --> 00:02:28,125 +and by complaining +to the Federal Election Commission. + +39 +00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:30,459 +But we were able +to just take those threats + +40 +00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:32,964 +and send them to the media. + +41 +00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,092 +And immediately the New York Times +wrote an article, + +42 +00:02:35,168 --> 00:02:37,102 +and there were a whole bunch +of other articles. + +43 +00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:39,832 +In fact, one reporter +read these articles and, + +44 +00:02:39,906 --> 00:02:42,238 +at a press conference, +asked Bush, + +45 +00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:45,904 +"So, what about this website-- +gwbush.com--what do you think of that?" + +46 +00:03:10,937 --> 00:03:12,268 +So it was all over the place. + +47 +00:03:12,339 --> 00:03:13,931 +A lot of people read about it, + +48 +00:03:14,007 --> 00:03:18,000 +including a guy who had another +domain name called gatt.org. + +49 +00:03:18,078 --> 00:03:21,241 +And, of course, GATT is the +Global Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, + +50 +00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:24,477 +and it's the predecessor agreement +to the World Trade Organization. + +51 +00:03:24,551 --> 00:03:26,951 +And he said, +"If you could do this for Bush, + +52 +00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,955 +then maybe you can +also do this for the WTO." + +53 +00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:36,491 +The WTO is supposed to be +sort of a United Nations of commerce, + +54 +00:03:36,563 --> 00:03:40,727 +a conglomeration +of all these countries in the world... + +55 +00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,395 +that get together every now and then +to discuss trade policies + +56 +00:03:44,471 --> 00:03:50,239 +in how exactly goods will be bought +and sold throughout the world. + +57 +00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:54,076 +I'm sure, originally, +the stated purpose of the WTO + +58 +00:03:54,147 --> 00:03:57,878 +was to help these countries +who are developing + +59 +00:03:57,951 --> 00:04:02,479 +so that, you know, the world community +can help raise them out of poverty. + +60 +00:04:02,556 --> 00:04:05,787 +In fact, what it's done is +it's allowed large corporations + +61 +00:04:05,859 --> 00:04:09,351 +to go in and exploit these people +even further + +62 +00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:12,296 +so that Americans +become even wealthier + +63 +00:04:12,365 --> 00:04:16,699 +and the people in these countries +continue to struggle to get by. + +64 +00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:22,402 +And I think that's-- +at this point it's upset quite a few people. + +65 +00:04:37,557 --> 00:04:40,458 +So I gotta try +and remember where Sal lives. + +66 +00:04:40,527 --> 00:04:45,362 +It's a little bit complicated. There's, like, +this snaking road up over the hills. + +67 +00:04:45,432 --> 00:04:47,263 +And who is Sal? + +68 +00:04:47,334 --> 00:04:51,202 +Sal is a friend who I met in San Diego, + +69 +00:04:51,271 --> 00:04:55,002 +and he moved to L.A. +to work in the movie industry, + +70 +00:04:55,075 --> 00:04:59,239 +and that's why now he does, +actually, costuming professionally. + +71 +00:04:59,312 --> 00:05:01,473 +He builds, like, weird suits + +72 +00:05:01,548 --> 00:05:04,813 +out of pretty much +any material you can imagine. + +73 +00:05:04,884 --> 00:05:08,183 +And so, when we needed a costume, +I knew who to call. + +74 +00:05:18,798 --> 00:05:20,129 +Yeah, this is it. Yeah. + +75 +00:05:22,435 --> 00:05:26,838 +I'll maybe bring him his mail, actually, +as long as we're at it here. + +76 +00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:29,268 +- Yeah--I don't like it. +- Okay. + +77 +00:05:29,342 --> 00:05:34,245 +It looks too much like sex stuff +instead of--it's not very modern-looking. + +78 +00:05:34,314 --> 00:05:37,715 +Remember, this is the future. +This isn't about, like, straps and stuff. + +79 +00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:40,150 +That's like dungeons and torture +in the past. + +80 +00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,553 +The costume +is a manager's leisure suit. + +81 +00:05:43,623 --> 00:05:46,285 +And the idea is that Hank Hardy Unruh, + +82 +00:05:46,359 --> 00:05:48,919 +the representative +from the World Trade Organization, + +83 +00:05:48,995 --> 00:05:52,897 +is going to go and wear +this breakaway business suit + +84 +00:05:52,966 --> 00:05:54,456 +that's gonna be pulled off of him + +85 +00:05:54,534 --> 00:05:57,128 +during the middle +of the keynote address to the conference. + +86 +00:05:57,203 --> 00:06:01,435 +And then a big inflatable phallus +is going to emerge from this golden suit, + +87 +00:06:01,508 --> 00:06:03,442 +and on the end of it is a TV screen + +88 +00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,775 +that he uses +to manage sweatshops remotely. + +89 +00:06:08,048 --> 00:06:10,107 +The reason we got invited +to these things + +90 +00:06:10,183 --> 00:06:12,413 +is we have a website +called gatt.org. + +91 +00:06:12,485 --> 00:06:16,285 +The gatt.org website looks a lot +like the WTO website, + +92 +00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:19,519 +but it is critical of the WTO. + +93 +00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:21,753 +Most people, though, +who find gatt.org + +94 +00:06:21,828 --> 00:06:25,320 +by searching +for the World Trade Organization... + +95 +00:06:25,398 --> 00:06:28,890 +will go without reading it +and will send us e-mail directly. + +96 +00:06:28,968 --> 00:06:32,768 +So a lot of people ask us +weird questions about tariffs and trade, + +97 +00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,239 +and we try to answer +as accurately as we can. + +98 +00:06:35,308 --> 00:06:37,367 +And occasionally invitations come in + +99 +00:06:37,444 --> 00:06:41,175 +from official +or quasi-official organizations + +100 +00:06:41,247 --> 00:06:44,648 +asking for opinions +or asking us to attend a conference. + +101 +00:06:44,718 --> 00:06:48,381 +And so, when they ask, they really think +they're talking to the WTO, + +102 +00:06:48,455 --> 00:06:52,516 +and we respond by giving them +what we think they want-- + +103 +00:06:52,592 --> 00:06:54,992 +which is the opinions of the WTO-- + +104 +00:06:55,061 --> 00:06:57,222 +as accurately +as we can represent them. + +105 +00:06:57,297 --> 00:06:59,959 +You know what I'm thinking, +actually, looking at this... + +106 +00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:03,227 +is that maybe this is a zipper. + +107 +00:07:03,303 --> 00:07:04,361 +Yeah! Yeah, yeah. + +108 +00:07:04,437 --> 00:07:07,167 +Then he just unzips it +and pulls the thing at the same time. + +109 +00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,105 +- That could be really good. +- Because... + +110 +00:07:09,175 --> 00:07:13,168 +to have it burst out of the Velcro, +it might not be strong enough to burst out, + +111 +00:07:13,246 --> 00:07:14,941 +and then he'd have to pull it. + +112 +00:07:15,348 --> 00:07:17,213 +Part of the thing +that gives us the courage + +113 +00:07:17,283 --> 00:07:23,347 +to go to Tampere... +with this really absurd suit + +114 +00:07:23,423 --> 00:07:26,415 +is that we already went +to Salzburg, Austria, to represent + +115 +00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:30,486 +the World Trade Organization +at a conference on tariffs and trade. + +116 +00:07:30,563 --> 00:07:35,762 +There, our representative--the same guy +who is Hank Hardy Unruh here-- + +117 +00:07:35,835 --> 00:07:38,770 +was Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer there. + +118 +00:07:38,838 --> 00:07:40,772 +And he gave a lecture that focused + +119 +00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,675 +on basically doing away with +all customs in the name of free trade, + +120 +00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:49,306 +like getting rid of the siesta +in Spain and Italy + +121 +00:07:49,382 --> 00:07:52,112 +so that business hours +could be the same. + +122 +00:07:52,185 --> 00:07:55,313 +In Italy, on the other hand, +you have a totally different situation, + +123 +00:07:55,388 --> 00:08:01,054 +in which sleep is...done during +the day as much as at night almost. + +124 +00:08:01,127 --> 00:08:05,860 +And allowing people to sell their votes +over the Internet to the highest bidder + +125 +00:08:05,932 --> 00:08:10,665 +so that the barriers to free trade +and things like votes were out of the way. + +126 +00:08:10,737 --> 00:08:14,673 +One possible solution is being tested +in the field of American politics + +127 +00:08:14,741 --> 00:08:19,508 +to streamline the grotesquely +inefficient system of elections. + +128 +00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:24,573 +Vote-auction.com, in turn, +employs only four people + +129 +00:08:24,651 --> 00:08:27,085 +to transmit not merely information, + +130 +00:08:27,153 --> 00:08:30,782 +but actual money +directly to the consuming voter. + +131 +00:08:30,857 --> 00:08:37,854 +It's a--a forum for people voluntarily +to offer their vote to the highest bidder. + +132 +00:08:37,931 --> 00:08:39,865 +And despite giving what we thought + +133 +00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:43,266 +was a lecture that would immediately +get us booed off stage + +134 +00:08:43,336 --> 00:08:46,169 +or get Bichlbauer +maybe even thrown in jail + +135 +00:08:46,239 --> 00:08:48,639 +because people would figure out +he was an impostor, + +136 +00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,300 +the exact opposite happened. + +137 +00:08:50,376 --> 00:08:52,037 +Everybody was super polite. + +138 +00:08:52,111 --> 00:08:57,242 +It didn't seem like everybody even noticed +that what he said was so absurd. + +139 +00:09:18,938 --> 00:09:20,269 +Well, so far... + +140 +00:09:21,708 --> 00:09:24,700 +...we thought Bichlbauer +would be very extreme + +141 +00:09:24,777 --> 00:09:27,769 +and people would react to it +and we'd get shut down, + +142 +00:09:27,847 --> 00:09:30,247 +and nothing of the sort happened. + +143 +00:09:30,316 --> 00:09:34,650 +So...this time we just have to really +push it and make it totally extreme. + +144 +00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:37,053 +I mean, we keep trying +to push things further + +145 +00:09:37,123 --> 00:09:43,062 +to try to really clarify the positions +of the WTO to make them very legible. + +146 +00:09:43,129 --> 00:09:45,597 +It's one back, +but this--this is good. + +147 +00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:56,798 +Andy. + +148 +00:09:59,045 --> 00:10:00,535 +It has a terrible siren. + +149 +00:10:06,119 --> 00:10:08,110 +I have to check the Web +when we get upstairs. + +150 +00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:10,121 +Oh, my God. What are we +gonna do about this-- + +151 +00:10:10,189 --> 00:10:12,623 +we gotta watch the Patrick video. + +152 +00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:15,524 +It's weird stuff, isn't it? + +153 +00:10:16,863 --> 00:10:18,524 +That's one way of putting it. + +154 +00:10:18,598 --> 00:10:20,259 +It's really a problem. + +155 +00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:24,599 +It seems about the weirdest +I've seen from him ever, I think. + +156 +00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,871 +It looks pretty good on this. + +157 +00:10:29,776 --> 00:10:31,038 +Yeah, it's all right. + +158 +00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:39,109 +What we have here is that we have +our cyber Andy here + +159 +00:10:39,185 --> 00:10:42,120 +who's going to be wearing the suit. + +160 +00:10:42,188 --> 00:10:45,783 +And I'm going to be showing +all the different ways + +161 +00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:50,693 +in which the Management Leisure Suit +can be useful in industry today + +162 +00:10:50,763 --> 00:10:54,927 +and maximize leisure potential. + +163 +00:10:56,369 --> 00:10:59,634 +Sometimes I don't think they know +what the hell to expect out of me. + +164 +00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,103 +What I'll come up with... + +165 +00:11:04,177 --> 00:11:09,240 +is frequently not exactly +what they had in mind, + +166 +00:11:09,315 --> 00:11:12,580 +but it's...you know, + +167 +00:11:12,652 --> 00:11:16,816 +it fits in perfectly with what they're-- +what they're going to do. + +168 +00:11:17,623 --> 00:11:19,955 +Well, I came out +of a corporate environment + +169 +00:11:20,026 --> 00:11:25,760 +and a company that I really gave, +you know, a good bit of my soul to + +170 +00:11:25,832 --> 00:11:28,232 +over a long period of time progressively. + +171 +00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:31,429 +And there were a lot of downsizings +and, of course, + +172 +00:11:31,504 --> 00:11:35,099 +the company I was with I thought +was gonna take care of me. + +173 +00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:38,007 +And I realized +that the bottom line is the bottom line, + +174 +00:11:38,077 --> 00:11:42,480 +and there really isn't any humanity +in corporate structures, + +175 +00:11:42,548 --> 00:11:46,882 +so therefore I hope that maybe +being part of the Yes Men + +176 +00:11:46,953 --> 00:11:51,686 +might, in some way, help raise issues +about global work issues + +177 +00:11:51,758 --> 00:11:56,422 +and social issues that are being +brought about by globalization, etcetera. + +178 +00:11:59,098 --> 00:12:01,157 +I grew up in the suburbs here, + +179 +00:12:01,234 --> 00:12:07,537 +and then I moved to Troy six years ago +for a job at the university. + +180 +00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:11,976 +There's a place there called Rensselaer +Polytechnic Institute, and I teach there. + +181 +00:12:12,045 --> 00:12:14,377 +I was moving back home, really, +because I'd been away-- + +182 +00:12:14,447 --> 00:12:17,416 +I'd been on the West Coast +for about 12 years. + +183 +00:12:17,483 --> 00:12:18,643 +Wait, what is this? + +184 +00:12:18,718 --> 00:12:21,050 +This is--it's this... + +185 +00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,022 +...SimCopter hack. +Here it is. + +186 +00:12:25,091 --> 00:12:27,889 +I wanted to watch this tape +'cause this is the tape-- + +187 +00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,726 +I've been cleaning out the archives, +and I found this tape in there. + +188 +00:12:31,798 --> 00:12:34,892 +I met Andy through a friend, actually. +A mutual friend. + +189 +00:12:34,967 --> 00:12:38,130 +Actually, two people +that we both knew + +190 +00:12:38,204 --> 00:12:41,173 +suggested that me and Andy +get in contact with one another + +191 +00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,572 +because we'd both +done similar projects. + +192 +00:12:43,643 --> 00:12:47,977 +One of the jobs that I had was +at this games company called Maxis + +193 +00:12:48,047 --> 00:12:49,776 +that makes SimCity. + +194 +00:12:49,849 --> 00:12:54,513 +One of the games they were making +at the time was SimCopter. + +195 +00:12:54,587 --> 00:12:57,420 +I was in charge of the little people +that run around in the game. + +196 +00:12:57,490 --> 00:13:00,948 +And I made them +wearing nothing but swim trunks. + +197 +00:13:01,027 --> 00:13:04,428 +They'd all be boys, and they'd +be running around kissing each other. + +198 +00:13:04,497 --> 00:13:08,092 +So all the people who ordered +this very popular video game + +199 +00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:12,331 +suddenly were treated +to a completely different spectacle. + +200 +00:13:12,405 --> 00:13:14,600 +So he got a lot +of press attention for it, + +201 +00:13:14,674 --> 00:13:18,166 +and it was seen as a kind of-- +an activist kind of statement + +202 +00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:21,680 +about video games and the sort +of macho nature of them. + +203 +00:13:21,747 --> 00:13:23,681 +It all involves +the unexpected appearance + +204 +00:13:23,749 --> 00:13:27,150 +of some gay, kissing muscle men +every Friday the 13th. + +205 +00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:30,053 +He's becoming a celebrity of sorts +in the computer world-- + +206 +00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:32,182 +especially the gay computer world. + +207 +00:13:32,258 --> 00:13:35,523 +And then I had done a project +using Barbie dolls, + +208 +00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:39,031 +where we switched the voice boxes +of Barbie dolls and G.I. Joes. + +209 +00:13:39,098 --> 00:13:43,262 +Troops! Attack that Cobra jet +with heavy firepower! + +210 +00:13:44,504 --> 00:13:48,998 +And that ended up in G.I. Joes that +said things like, "I love to shop with you," + +211 +00:13:49,075 --> 00:13:53,068 +and Barbie dolls that said things like, +"Dead men tell no lies." + +212 +00:13:53,146 --> 00:13:56,240 +And we got them back +on store shelves + +213 +00:13:56,315 --> 00:14:00,183 +all over the country in what we called +our "Shop Giving Program." + +214 +00:14:00,253 --> 00:14:02,084 +We're like Santa Claus, +only less radical, + +215 +00:14:02,155 --> 00:14:04,715 +because Santa Claus +breaks into people's houses. We don't. + +216 +00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:07,156 +So that when kids +got them at Christmas, + +217 +00:14:07,226 --> 00:14:08,955 +they were surprised to find their doll + +218 +00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,360 +saying something other +than what they expected. + +219 +00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:15,423 +And the kids thought it was hilarious. +They loved having these crazy dolls. + +220 +00:14:15,501 --> 00:14:16,991 +We sent out press releases, + +221 +00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:21,130 +so it was in the news on Christmas Day +and for the week following. + +222 +00:14:21,207 --> 00:14:26,008 +It just went through every kind +of media channel imaginable. + +223 +00:14:26,078 --> 00:14:28,842 +- The B.L.O... +- The Mission of the B.L.O... + +224 +00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:32,146 +The Barbie Liberation Organization-- +the B.L.O... + +225 +00:14:32,218 --> 00:14:36,814 +It was real funny 'cause it looks +like, "Come on, fight me. Fight me!" + +226 +00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:39,619 +- Except it says... +- I love school. Don't you? + +227 +00:14:39,692 --> 00:14:41,023 +Let's sing with the band tonight! + +228 +00:14:41,093 --> 00:14:42,754 +Now we're--with the Yes Men, + +229 +00:14:42,828 --> 00:14:46,559 +we're calling that sort of basic idea +"Identity Correction," + +230 +00:14:46,632 --> 00:14:48,361 +like saying, these things-- + +231 +00:14:48,434 --> 00:14:51,699 +these things that are not +really presenting themselves honestly + +232 +00:14:51,771 --> 00:14:55,434 +or that hide something about their nature +that's really scary, + +233 +00:14:55,508 --> 00:14:56,839 +we want to bring that out. + +234 +00:14:56,909 --> 00:14:59,241 +We want to show that. +We want to demonstrate that. + +235 +00:14:59,312 --> 00:15:02,145 +And so, like for the WTO-- + +236 +00:15:02,215 --> 00:15:04,046 +we think that the WTO + +237 +00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,778 +is doing all these terrible things +that are hurting people + +238 +00:15:06,852 --> 00:15:08,843 +and they're saying the exact opposite. + +239 +00:15:08,921 --> 00:15:11,913 +And so we're interested +in correcting their identity. + +240 +00:15:11,991 --> 00:15:15,483 +In the same way that an identity thief +steals somebody's identity + +241 +00:15:15,561 --> 00:15:19,395 +in order to basically +just engage in criminal practices, + +242 +00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:21,797 +we target people +we see as criminals, + +243 +00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,461 +and we steal their identity +to try to make them honest + +244 +00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,801 +or to try to present +a more honest face. + +245 +00:15:26,872 --> 00:15:29,864 +And so...you know, +I guess this whole thing + +246 +00:15:29,942 --> 00:15:32,433 +has its roots for both me and Andy + +247 +00:15:32,511 --> 00:15:34,843 +in stuff that we've been doing +for a long time, + +248 +00:15:34,914 --> 00:15:38,577 +which is trying to create public spectacles +that, in some kind of poetic way, + +249 +00:15:38,651 --> 00:15:43,179 +reveal something about our culture +that's profoundly a problem. + +250 +00:15:58,371 --> 00:15:59,736 +That must be Sal. + +251 +00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:04,006 +- Oh, dude. +- Are you okay? + +252 +00:16:04,076 --> 00:16:06,067 +I got fuckin' lost on that... + +253 +00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:07,476 +Oh, no. + +254 +00:16:09,515 --> 00:16:11,005 +It's been a long day. + +255 +00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:12,482 +Holy shit! + +256 +00:16:13,786 --> 00:16:18,723 +Well, I probably started it +in June or July. + +257 +00:16:19,358 --> 00:16:23,124 +So, on and off +for a good two to three months. + +258 +00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:27,131 +Just a couple more pieces +of Velcro, and that'll really be it. + +259 +00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:30,691 +And, yeah, we're... +at the end of the line. + +260 +00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:35,767 +Okay, look. +So we're making a list here. + +261 +00:16:35,841 --> 00:16:38,571 +Wednesday we leave +for Finland early, + +262 +00:16:38,644 --> 00:16:41,511 +so, Sunday... + +263 +00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,911 +make lecture. + +264 +00:16:42,982 --> 00:16:44,916 +Bigger? +Oh, no. That's a big one. + +265 +00:16:44,984 --> 00:16:51,150 +PowerPoint... +and then speech. + +266 +00:16:51,223 --> 00:16:52,281 +Finish. + +267 +00:17:04,403 --> 00:17:11,070 +It's 4:03 a.m., and I guess +I'll just keep working until morning. + +268 +00:17:11,143 --> 00:17:13,475 +I feel...somewhat awake. + +269 +00:17:13,546 --> 00:17:16,538 +And then Andy can take over again. + +270 +00:17:17,983 --> 00:17:21,475 +We can do +around-the-clock shifts, I guess. + +271 +00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:28,090 +I'm just trying to add a few slides +into the PowerPoint here. + +272 +00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,690 +Because, actually, a lot of the things +that business leaders of the world + +273 +00:17:34,767 --> 00:17:39,170 +say in relation to these issues +are actually sort of very similar + +274 +00:17:39,238 --> 00:17:40,899 +to what Unruh Hank Hardy says, + +275 +00:17:40,973 --> 00:17:44,875 +even though maybe Unruh Hank Hardy +is a little bit more frank about it. + +276 +00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:47,970 +And, in fact, +when he talked to CNBC, + +277 +00:17:48,047 --> 00:17:49,378 +when he was debating, + +278 +00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:52,440 +an activist, Barry Coates, +just sort of agreed with what he said + +279 +00:17:52,518 --> 00:17:56,352 +when he said that this is what +the WTO does, and this is our position. + +280 +00:17:56,422 --> 00:18:01,086 +And Barry Coates said, +"Well, that's funny. That's exactly right." + +281 +00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:09,090 +So...after Salzburg, we got an e-mail +asking a representative of the WTO + +282 +00:18:09,168 --> 00:18:12,228 +to appear on CNBC +MarketWrap Europe. + +283 +00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:18,971 +And the producer apparently didn't notice +that gatt.org was not the WTO site. + +284 +00:18:19,044 --> 00:18:25,347 +And Granwyth Hulatberi, which is +another name that Andy just came up with, + +285 +00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:28,012 +responded and, of course, said, + +286 +00:18:28,087 --> 00:18:31,579 +"Well, I'd be happy to go +on CNBC MarketWrap." + +287 +00:18:31,657 --> 00:18:37,493 +And the producer wanted him to debate +an anti-globalization protester. + +288 +00:18:37,563 --> 00:18:43,661 +If the WTO is serious about addressing +the issues of world poverty, + +289 +00:18:43,736 --> 00:18:47,228 +it would do things +completely differently than it is now. + +290 +00:18:47,306 --> 00:18:50,901 +Let me bring in Granwyth on that. +Is that a fair point? + +291 +00:18:52,077 --> 00:18:56,480 +Well, of course it is, but I think Barry, +as well as all the other protesters, + +292 +00:18:56,549 --> 00:19:01,646 +are simply, in a word, focused too much +on reality and on facts and figures. + +293 +00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,212 +And I think I would have to say +that this is a long-term problem + +294 +00:19:05,291 --> 00:19:07,782 +that comes down +to a problem of education. + +295 +00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:12,354 +We have to find a way to convince +perhaps not the protesters + +296 +00:19:12,431 --> 00:19:14,262 +but the protesters' children + +297 +00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:20,067 +to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman +and Darwin and--and so on, + +298 +00:19:20,139 --> 00:19:23,074 +rather than what the protesters +have been reared on-- + +299 +00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:26,202 +Trotsky and Robespierre +and Abbie Hoffman. + +300 00:19:26,278 --> 00:19:30,271 Und ich glaube, dass das -Legen der Inhalte von Erziehung, - -301 -00:19:30,349 --> 00:19:33,079 +Legen der Inhalte von Erziehung, + +301 +00:19:30,349 --> 00:19:33,079 ein Legen in private Hände-- - - -302 -00:19:33,152 --> 00:19:36,246 + + +302 +00:19:33,152 --> 00:19:36,246 eine Konzentrierung der Ressourcen im privaten Sektor-- - -303 -00:19:36,322 --> 00:19:38,483 + +303 +00:19:36,322 --> 00:19:38,483 wird automatisch zu diesem Ergebnis führen, - - -304 -00:19:38,557 --> 00:19:41,048 + + +304 +00:19:38,557 --> 00:19:41,048 und wir werden die Kinder der -Protestierer erzogen sehen - -305 -00:19:41,126 --> 00:19:43,617 -mit völlig anderen Sorgen. - -306 +Protestierer erzogen sehen + +305 +00:19:41,126 --> 00:19:43,617 +mit völlig anderen Sorgen. + +306 00:19:43,696 --> 00:19:45,357 Lassen Sie mich darauf -antworten, Barry. - - -307 -00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:47,092 +antworten, Barry. + + +307 +00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:47,092 Ich-- Ich möchte nur sagen, - - -308 -00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,361 + + +308 +00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,361 dass diese vereinfachende Argumentation - - -309 -00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:53,098 + + +309 +00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:53,098 wirklich, also, zu beleidigend und un- -glaubwürdig für die meisten Menschen ist. - -310 +glaubwürdig für die meisten Menschen ist. + +310 00:19:53,172 --> 00:19:56,903 Die Tatsache, dass wir die Wahl haben -zwischen Milton Friedman und Abbie Hoffman - -311 +zwischen Milton Friedman und Abbie Hoffman + +311 00:19:56,976 --> 00:20:00,377 als unsere Quellen für ökomische Geschichte -und Philosophie.. - -312 -00:20:00,446 --> 00:20:03,438 +und Philosophie.. + +312 +00:20:00,446 --> 00:20:03,438 Es gibt viele, viele Denker in der Welt -- - -313 -00:20:03,516 --> 00:20:06,007 + +313 +00:20:03,516 --> 00:20:06,007 nur nicht die, die bei der WTO -angestellt sind-- - -314 +angestellt sind-- + +314 00:20:06,085 --> 00:20:09,953 die glauben, dass die Ansätze der -WTO sehr schädlich sind - -315 +WTO sehr schädlich sind + +315 00:20:10,022 --> 00:20:12,684 für die Entwicklungsaussichten -der ärmsten Länder - -316 +der ärmsten Länder + +316 00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:14,419 Lassen Sie mich auf Granwyth -antworten. - -317 +antworten. + +317 00:20:15,961 --> 00:20:21,558 Ja. Also ich möchte auf Granwyth' ---sorry--auf Barry's Punkt eingehen, - -318 +--sorry--auf Barry's Punkt eingehen, + +318 00:20:21,634 --> 00:20:23,124 -dass es andere Denker gibt. - -319 +dass es andere Denker gibt. + +319 00:20:23,202 --> 00:20:27,468 Nun, wer hat denn wirklich die Macht -in der Welt, wer hat also Recht - -320 -00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,201 -mit seiner Weltsicht? - -321 +in der Welt, wer hat also Recht + +320 +00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,201 +mit seiner Weltsicht? + +321 00:20:29,275 --> 00:20:31,607 Ich meine, ich denke die Antwort -ist leicht. - -322 -00:20:31,677 --> 00:20:35,511 +ist leicht. + +322 +00:20:31,677 --> 00:20:35,511 Und wenn Sie sich meine Ansichten und -die Ansichten meiner Organisation ansehen, - -323 +die Ansichten meiner Organisation ansehen, + +323 00:20:35,581 --> 00:20:39,244 und die vieler, vieler wichtiger -Entscheider in der Welt-- - -324 +Entscheider in der Welt-- + +324 00:20:39,318 --> 00:20:43,311 den mächtigen Menschen also--dann stimmen -sie mit dem ein, was ich hier erkläre. - -325 -00:20:43,389 --> 00:20:46,881 +sie mit dem ein, was ich hier erkläre. + +325 +00:20:43,389 --> 00:20:46,881 Und ich denke das ist genug zu dieser Weltsicht. - - -326 -00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,119 -Kurz, Barry. - -327 + + +326 +00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,119 +Kurz, Barry. + +327 00:20:48,193 --> 00:20:49,990 -Also, ich meine--was wir hier haben - - -328 +Also, ich meine--was wir hier haben + + +328 00:20:50,062 --> 00:20:53,657 ist ein Bild der Reichen und Mächtigen, die -bestimmte Ansichten haben, - -329 +bestimmte Ansichten haben, + +329 00:20:53,732 --> 00:20:57,065 die sie dann durch die -Institutionen propagieren - -330 +Institutionen propagieren + +330 00:20:57,136 --> 00:20:58,728 -in denen sie eine starke Stimme haben. - - -331 -00:20:58,804 --> 00:21:02,205 +in denen sie eine starke Stimme haben. + + +331 +00:20:58,804 --> 00:21:02,205 Und ich denke das ist exakt das Modell, -das in Frage gestellt wird. - -332 +das in Frage gestellt wird. + +332 00:21:02,274 --> 00:21:07,211 Und zwar von einer sehr grossen, -weiter wachsenden Anzahl - -333 +weiter wachsenden Anzahl + +333 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:09,611 von Menschen, die beunruhigt wegen -dieser Regelungen sind. - -334 +dieser Regelungen sind. + +334 00:21:09,682 --> 00:21:12,742 Die Menschen auf den Strassen -von Genua und Seattle - -335 -00:21:12,818 --> 00:21:15,286 +von Genua und Seattle + +335 +00:21:12,818 --> 00:21:15,286 sind nicht die gesamte Bewegung. - -336 -00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:16,946 + +336 +00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:16,946 Sie sind nur die Spitze des -Eisbergs. - -337 -00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:20,856 +Eisbergs. + +337 +00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:20,856 Wir haben letztes Jahr in einer Studie -die Entwicklungsländer angesehen, - -338 +die Entwicklungsländer angesehen, + +338 00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:24,020 und haben herausgefunden, dass inner- -halb eines Jahres in 50 Demonstrationen - -339 +halb eines Jahres in 50 Demonstrationen + +339 00:21:24,096 --> 00:21:26,929 über eine Million Mensch aus -Entwicklungsländern - -340 +Entwicklungsländern + +340 00:21:26,999 --> 00:21:29,661 dabei waren, zu versuchen, die -Regeln zu verändern, - -341 +Regeln zu verändern, + +341 00:21:29,735 --> 00:21:32,465 die ihnen von der Weltbank und dem -IWF aufgezwungen - -342 +IWF aufgezwungen + +342 00:21:32,538 --> 00:21:35,200 und durch die WTO festgelegt -wurden. - -343 -00:21:35,274 --> 00:21:38,141 +wurden. + +343 +00:21:35,274 --> 00:21:38,141 Danke. Wir müssen zum Ende kommen. Barry -Coates, danke für ihre Teilnahme. - -344 +Coates, danke für ihre Teilnahme. + +344 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:42,044 -Danke auch an Granwyth Hulatberi und -Vernon Ellis in New York. - -345 -00:22:08,807 --> 00:22:10,206 +Danke auch an Granwyth Hulatberi und +Vernon Ellis in New York. + +345 +00:22:08,807 --> 00:22:10,206 Abschnitt drei? - - -346 -00:22:13,412 --> 00:22:14,572 -Naja... - -347 -00:22:14,647 --> 00:22:17,980 + + +346 +00:22:13,412 --> 00:22:14,572 +Naja... + +347 +00:22:14,647 --> 00:22:17,980 Es ist nicht wirklich ein Kleider- -sack, aber, ähm... - -348 +sack, aber, ähm... + +348 00:22:19,018 --> 00:22:20,349 -...es wird schon gehen. - -349 -00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,150 +...es wird schon gehen. + +349 +00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,150 Ja? Glaubst du das ist sehr -geschäftsmässig? - -350 -00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:26,885 +geschäftsmässig? + +350 +00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:26,885 So richtig offiziell? - - -351 -00:22:26,959 --> 00:22:29,018 -Sehr...sehr dickes Geld. - -352 + + +351 +00:22:26,959 --> 00:22:29,018 +Sehr...sehr dickes Geld. + +352 00:22:29,094 --> 00:22:32,894 Okay, gut. Genau das brauchen wir. -Ich brauche eine protzige Uhr. - -353 -00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:38,697 +Ich brauche eine protzige Uhr. + +353 +00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:38,697 Warst du nervös, als du nach -Salzburg gefahren bist? - -354 -00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:41,171 +Salzburg gefahren bist? + +354 +00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:41,171 Die Sache ist, dass, selbst mit -dieser Salzburg-Sache, - -355 -00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,970 +dieser Salzburg-Sache, + +355 +00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,970 waren wir so irgendwie... - - -356 -00:22:44,043 --> 00:22:47,843 + + +356 +00:22:44,043 --> 00:22:47,843 --wir waren schon sehr nervös, -aber die ganze Zeit über-- - -357 -00:22:47,913 --> 00:22:50,575 +aber die ganze Zeit über-- + +357 +00:22:47,913 --> 00:22:50,575 es wird einem nicht bewusst, bis -man wirklich dort ist. - -358 -00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:51,775 -Stimmt. - -359 +man wirklich dort ist. + +358 +00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:51,775 +Stimmt. + +359 00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:55,251 Nun, nachdem, was ich von der -Rede gesehen habe - -360 -00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,721 -fängt es ganz normal an, - -361 -00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:01,282 +Rede gesehen habe + +360 +00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,721 +fängt es ganz normal an, + +361 +00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:01,282 so dass die Leute sich entspannen -können-- - -362 -00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,524 +können-- + +362 +00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,524 er kann sich sozusagen langsam -reinarbeiten. - -363 +reinarbeiten. + +363 00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,257 -Sohn einer verdammten Hure. - -364 -00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,501 -Scheisse. - -365 -00:23:13,505 --> 00:23:16,633 -Ja, hast du einen Lappen? Fuck. - -366 -00:23:17,276 --> 00:23:21,474 +Sohn einer verdammten Hure. + +364 +00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,501 +Scheisse. + +365 +00:23:13,505 --> 00:23:16,633 +Ja, hast du einen Lappen? Fuck. + +366 +00:23:17,276 --> 00:23:21,474 Scheisse. Ich hab einen mit Schuhpoli- -tur drauf, der wird nicht gehen, oder? - -367 -00:23:24,383 --> 00:23:26,715 +tur drauf, der wird nicht gehen, oder? + +367 +00:23:24,383 --> 00:23:26,715 - Der Bildschirm hat etwas Farbe abgekriegt? -- Jepp. - -368 -00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:37,652 -- Das hört sich wie ein Rasenmäher an. -- Das ist ein bisschen laut, stimmt. - -369 -00:23:38,997 --> 00:23:40,328 -- Das ist nicht gut. -- Vergiss es. - -370 -00:23:50,142 --> 00:23:53,305 +- Jepp. + +368 +00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:37,652 +- Das hört sich wie ein Rasenmäher an. +- Das ist ein bisschen laut, stimmt. + +369 +00:23:38,997 --> 00:23:40,328 +- Das ist nicht gut. +- Vergiss es. + +370 +00:23:50,142 --> 00:23:53,305 Guck mal, es macht ein neues Geräusch. Gut. Gut. Gut. Toll. - -371 -00:23:53,378 --> 00:23:54,970 -- Ist das nicht toll? -- Probiers aus. - -372 -00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,639 -Jetzt funktioniert es nicht. - -373 -00:23:56,715 --> 00:23:58,546 -- Oh, Hör zu! Yeah. -- So muss es sein! - -374 -00:23:59,451 --> 00:24:00,782 -Wir müssen uns beeilen! - -375 -00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,863 -Okay, zehn Minuten. -Sie sind beide da. - -376 -00:24:18,337 --> 00:24:19,827 -Hey, Sal. - -377 -00:24:21,073 --> 00:24:22,131 -Danke. - -378 -00:24:23,976 --> 00:24:25,136 -Viel Glück. - -379 -00:24:26,478 --> 00:24:28,309 -- Wir werden sehen, wie es läuft. -- Danke für alles. - -380 -00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,974 -Ja, schlaf gut. -Viel Vergnügen. - -381 -00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:33,611 -- Viel Spass. -- Bis bald. - -382 -00:24:33,685 --> 00:24:36,210 -Zieh in meinen Raum. -Entspann dich. - -383 -00:24:36,288 --> 00:24:37,448 -Okay. - -384 -00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:43,158 -Ist das alles? -Wow. Wie effizient. - -385 -00:24:43,228 --> 00:24:44,388 -Okay. - -386 -00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:48,664 + +371 +00:23:53,378 --> 00:23:54,970 +- Ist das nicht toll? +- Probiers aus. + +372 +00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,639 +Jetzt funktioniert es nicht. + +373 +00:23:56,715 --> 00:23:58,546 +- Oh, Hör zu! Yeah. +- So muss es sein! + +374 +00:23:59,451 --> 00:24:00,782 +Wir müssen uns beeilen! + +375 +00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,863 +Okay, zehn Minuten. +Sie sind beide da. + +376 +00:24:18,337 --> 00:24:19,827 +Hey, Sal. + +377 +00:24:21,073 --> 00:24:22,131 +Danke. + +378 +00:24:23,976 --> 00:24:25,136 +Viel Glück. + +379 +00:24:26,478 --> 00:24:28,309 +- Wir werden sehen, wie es läuft. +- Danke für alles. + +380 +00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,974 +Ja, schlaf gut. +Viel Vergnügen. + +381 +00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:33,611 +- Viel Spass. +- Bis bald. + +382 +00:24:33,685 --> 00:24:36,210 +Zieh in meinen Raum. +Entspann dich. + +383 +00:24:36,288 --> 00:24:37,448 +Okay. + +384 +00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:43,158 +Ist das alles? +Wow. Wie effizient. + +385 +00:24:43,228 --> 00:24:44,388 +Okay. + +386 +00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:48,664 Effizient. -Ein Paradebeispiel an Effizienz. - - -387 -00:24:51,804 --> 00:24:55,240 +Ein Paradebeispiel an Effizienz. + + +387 +00:24:51,804 --> 00:24:55,240 Du hast etwas in deinem Gesicht. -Nein, hier. - -388 -00:24:57,075 --> 00:24:58,133 -So ist es besser. - -389 -00:25:30,576 --> 00:25:32,407 -Wir sind letzte Nacht angekommen. - -390 -00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:34,809 -Du musstest ein Nickerchen machen. -Du brauchtest etwas Schlaf. - -391 -00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,211 -Ich war einfach fertig, stimmt. - -392 -00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:40,115 +Nein, hier. + +388 +00:24:57,075 --> 00:24:58,133 +So ist es besser. + +389 +00:25:30,576 --> 00:25:32,407 +Wir sind letzte Nacht angekommen. + +390 +00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:34,809 +Du musstest ein Nickerchen machen. +Du brauchtest etwas Schlaf. + +391 +00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,211 +Ich war einfach fertig, stimmt. + +392 +00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:40,115 Und ich bin los und hab mir den -Konferenzraum angesehen. - -393 -00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,586 +Konferenzraum angesehen. + +393 +00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,586 Es gab ein Schild an der Tür, darauf -stand "Textilien der Zukunft." - -394 -00:25:43,655 --> 00:25:47,591 -Unruh Hank Hardy war der erste -Redner--Hank Hardy Unruh. - -395 -00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,059 +stand "Textilien der Zukunft." + +394 +00:25:43,655 --> 00:25:47,591 +Unruh Hank Hardy war der erste +Redner--Hank Hardy Unruh. + +395 +00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,059 Und, weisst du, alles -wirkte irgendwie offiziell. - -396 -00:25:50,128 --> 00:25:52,790 -Die Kaffeetassen waren schon da. - -397 -00:25:52,865 --> 00:25:54,856 -Und ich dachte, -"Das ist toll. Ich bin bereit. - -398 -00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,094 +wirkte irgendwie offiziell. + +396 +00:25:50,128 --> 00:25:52,790 +Die Kaffeetassen waren schon da. + +397 +00:25:52,865 --> 00:25:54,856 +Und ich dachte, +"Das ist toll. Ich bin bereit. + +398 +00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,094 Ich weiss exakt wo das ist. -Wir können da hin." - -399 -00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:59,569 +Wir können da hin." + +399 +00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:59,569 Ich hatte einen Ablauf-- Ich habe -einen kleinen Ablaufplan aufgestellt, - -400 -00:25:59,638 --> 00:26:03,836 +einen kleinen Ablaufplan aufgestellt, + +400 +00:25:59,638 --> 00:26:03,836 Ich hatte Karten des Orts und die -aktuellsten Konferenz-Flyer. - -401 -00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,940 -Bin dann wieder hergekommen. -Dann sind wir früh schlafen gegangen. - -402 -00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:13,007 -Hank hat sofort geschnarcht, -aber ich konnte überhaupt nicht schlafen. - -403 -00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:14,780 -Ich lag nur wach im Bett, - -404 -00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:18,516 +aktuellsten Konferenz-Flyer. + +401 +00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,940 +Bin dann wieder hergekommen. +Dann sind wir früh schlafen gegangen. + +402 +00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:13,007 +Hank hat sofort geschnarcht, +aber ich konnte überhaupt nicht schlafen. + +403 +00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:14,780 +Ich lag nur wach im Bett, + +404 +00:26:14,853 --> 00:26:18,516 und ab und zu bin ich ins Bad oder hab das -Licht angemacht und etwas gelesen, - -405 -00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,491 +Licht angemacht und etwas gelesen, + +405 +00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,491 denn ich war einfach unfähig zu -schlafen. - -406 -00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,893 +schlafen. + +406 +00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,893 Und irgendwann bin ich dann doch ein- -geschlafen, kurz vor dem Aufwachen. - -407 -00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:29,894 -Toll. - -408 -00:26:32,671 --> 00:26:35,401 -Ich lass meine Brieftasche hier. - -409 -00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,234 -Okay, los gehts. - -410 -00:26:43,849 --> 00:26:45,510 -- Warte. -- Es ist 8:00. - -411 -00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,575 +geschlafen, kurz vor dem Aufwachen. + +407 +00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:29,894 +Toll. + +408 +00:26:32,671 --> 00:26:35,401 +Ich lass meine Brieftasche hier. + +409 +00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,234 +Okay, los gehts. + +410 +00:26:43,849 --> 00:26:45,510 +- Warte. +- Es ist 8:00. + +411 +00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,575 Ich denke ich werde sie wirklich -hierlassen. - -412 -00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:54,924 -Kommst du? - -413 -00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,922 +hierlassen. + +412 +00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:54,924 +Kommst du? + +413 +00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,922 Hank, es ist ein bisschen früh, -um aufzustehen. - -414 -00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:06,499 -- Das geht schon ok so. -- Ich meine, ich dachte wir machen Urlaub. - -415 -00:27:06,571 --> 00:27:08,232 -- Wie Bitte? -- Urlaub. - -416 -00:27:08,307 --> 00:27:09,706 -Ich weiss. - -417 -00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,437 -- Ich würde gern Urlaub machen. -- Und sie bringen mich nach Finnland... - -418 -00:27:17,349 --> 00:27:20,682 +um aufzustehen. + +414 +00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:06,499 +- Das geht schon ok so. +- Ich meine, ich dachte wir machen Urlaub. + +415 +00:27:06,571 --> 00:27:08,232 +- Wie Bitte? +- Urlaub. + +416 +00:27:08,307 --> 00:27:09,706 +Ich weiss. + +417 +00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,437 +- Ich würde gern Urlaub machen. +- Und sie bringen mich nach Finnland... + +418 +00:27:17,349 --> 00:27:20,682 Gib mir das Ei. -Ich werde es dir pellen. - -419 -00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,413 -Das wäre nett. Danke. - -420 -00:27:27,292 --> 00:27:29,783 -- Aber wir sind spät dran. -- Sind wir? - -421 -00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:35,026 +Ich werde es dir pellen. + +419 +00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,413 +Das wäre nett. Danke. + +420 +00:27:27,292 --> 00:27:29,783 +- Aber wir sind spät dran. +- Sind wir? + +421 +00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:35,026 Ein bisschen. Es ist nach 8:00, und ich wollte eigentlich um 8:00 am Tagungsort ein. - -422 -00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,761 -- Okay. -- Das klappt schon. - -423 -00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,996 -- Ist es nach 8:00? -- Es ist nach 8:00. - -424 -00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:40,231 -Ja. - -425 -00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:44,969 -Weisst du, tu so, als ob... - -426 -00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,383 -Toll, wir sind pünktlich. - -427 -00:27:56,455 --> 00:27:57,615 -Oh, gut. - -428 -00:28:00,192 --> 00:28:03,025 -Hallo, Ich bin Hank Hardy Unruh. -Ich bin von der-- - -429 -00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,495 -- Oh, Klar. Freut mich, Sie kennenzulernen. -- Freut mich, Sie kennenzulernen. - -430 -00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,725 -- Wir haben sie schon erwartet. -- Oh, gut. - -431 -00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,428 + +422 +00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,761 +- Okay. +- Das klappt schon. + +423 +00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,996 +- Ist es nach 8:00? +- Es ist nach 8:00. + +424 +00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:40,231 +Ja. + +425 +00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:44,969 +Weisst du, tu so, als ob... + +426 +00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,383 +Toll, wir sind pünktlich. + +427 +00:27:56,455 --> 00:27:57,615 +Oh, gut. + +428 +00:28:00,192 --> 00:28:03,025 +Hallo, Ich bin Hank Hardy Unruh. +Ich bin von der-- + +429 +00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,495 +- Oh, Klar. Freut mich, Sie kennenzulernen. +- Freut mich, Sie kennenzulernen. + +430 +00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,725 +- Wir haben sie schon erwartet. +- Oh, gut. + +431 +00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,428 Es ist nicht 9:50--nein. -Es ist 8:30, oder? - -432 -00:28:12,237 --> 00:28:16,071 -- Aber du wirst... -- Es ist jetzt 8:30...oder? - -433 -00:28:16,141 --> 00:28:20,475 -Es...ist...es ist 9:30, ja. - -434 -00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:21,876 -- Jetzt? -- Ja. - -435 -00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:24,108 -- Ja. -- Es ist 9:30? - -436 -00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:25,581 -- Ja. -- Ja. Fast. - -437 -00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,380 -- Ich bin dran um... -- Es ist im Moment 27 nach 9:00. - -438 -00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,944 -Oh mein Gott. -Wir sind eine Stunde zu spät. - -439 -00:28:31,023 --> 00:28:33,014 -- Oh mein Gott. Danke. -- Gern geschehen. - -440 -00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:36,458 -- Nun, wir müssen-- wir fangen in 3-- -- Jedenfalls, schön sie kennenzulernen. - -441 -00:28:36,528 --> 00:28:38,462 +Es ist 8:30, oder? + +432 +00:28:12,237 --> 00:28:16,071 +- Aber du wirst... +- Es ist jetzt 8:30...oder? + +433 +00:28:16,141 --> 00:28:20,475 +Es...ist...es ist 9:30, ja. + +434 +00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:21,876 +- Jetzt? +- Ja. + +435 +00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:24,108 +- Ja. +- Es ist 9:30? + +436 +00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:25,581 +- Ja. +- Ja. Fast. + +437 +00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:28,380 +- Ich bin dran um... +- Es ist im Moment 27 nach 9:00. + +438 +00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,944 +Oh mein Gott. +Wir sind eine Stunde zu spät. + +439 +00:28:31,023 --> 00:28:33,014 +- Oh mein Gott. Danke. +- Gern geschehen. + +440 +00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:36,458 +- Nun, wir müssen-- wir fangen in 3-- +- Jedenfalls, schön sie kennenzulernen. + +441 +00:28:36,528 --> 00:28:38,462 Wissen sie, -dass er gerade dran ist? - - -442 -00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:41,124 -Ja--naja, -...haben sie erwartet. - -443 -00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:43,258 -- Oh, Jesus. Okay. -- Okay, wir... - -444 -00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,667 -Kommen sie auch? -Sind sie registriert? - -445 -00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:53,166 -Ich bin sein Assistent. -Wir arbeiten beide mit ihm. - -446 -00:28:53,245 --> 00:28:55,736 -Wir müssen uns jetzt um eine Dinge -kümmern. - -447 -00:28:55,814 --> 00:28:57,543 -- Hier ist es. -- Okay. - -448 -00:28:57,616 --> 00:29:00,608 -- Möchten Sie am Dinner teilnehmen? -- Ja, bitte. - -449 -00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:03,279 -- Sind damit Kosten verbunden, oder... -- Nein, das ist inklusive. - -450 -00:29:03,355 --> 00:29:06,620 +dass er gerade dran ist? + + +442 +00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:41,124 +Ja--naja, +...haben sie erwartet. + +443 +00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:43,258 +- Oh, Jesus. Okay. +- Okay, wir... + +444 +00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,667 +Kommen sie auch? +Sind sie registriert? + +445 +00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:53,166 +Ich bin sein Assistent. +Wir arbeiten beide mit ihm. + +446 +00:28:53,245 --> 00:28:55,736 +Wir müssen uns jetzt um eine Dinge +kümmern. + +447 +00:28:55,814 --> 00:28:57,543 +- Hier ist es. +- Okay. + +448 +00:28:57,616 --> 00:29:00,608 +- Möchten Sie am Dinner teilnehmen? +- Ja, bitte. + +449 +00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:03,279 +- Sind damit Kosten verbunden, oder... +- Nein, das ist inklusive. + +450 +00:29:03,355 --> 00:29:06,620 Okay. Ja, wir-- wir werden am Dinner teilnehmen. Das ist toll. - - -451 -00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,357 -- Wow. -- Ich glaube, wir müssen uns beeilen. - -452 -00:29:09,428 --> 00:29:12,022 -- Ja. Ich werde dich begleiten. -- Ja. Bitte. - -453 -00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,696 + + +451 +00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:09,357 +- Wow. +- Ich glaube, wir müssen uns beeilen. + +452 +00:29:09,428 --> 00:29:12,022 +- Ja. Ich werde dich begleiten. +- Ja. Bitte. + +453 +00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,696 Wobei, nein, Sie können jetzt nicht -reingehen, - -454 -00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,099 +reingehen, + +454 +00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,099 weil Sie sich vorher noch darum -kümmern müssen. - -455 -00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,662 +kümmern müssen. + +455 +00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,662 Wir sind eine Stunde--- -Wir sind eine Stunde zu spät. - -456 -00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,402 -- Ich muss etwas erledigen. -- Ja. - -457 -00:29:24,476 --> 00:29:26,808 +Wir sind eine Stunde zu spät. + +456 +00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,402 +- Ich muss etwas erledigen. +- Ja. + +457 +00:29:24,476 --> 00:29:26,808 Er muss jetzt gleich einen sehr -wichtigen Anruf tätigen. - -458 -00:29:26,878 --> 00:29:28,709 -- Ich brauche dafür 5 Minuten. -- Jetzt gleich? - -459 -00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,838 -Tut mir leid. - -460 -00:29:29,915 --> 00:29:32,748 +wichtigen Anruf tätigen. + +458 +00:29:26,878 --> 00:29:28,709 +- Ich brauche dafür 5 Minuten. +- Jetzt gleich? + +459 +00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,838 +Tut mir leid. + +460 +00:29:29,915 --> 00:29:32,748 Aber Sie müssen Ihre Präsentation -in 2 Minuten beginne. - -461 -00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:35,309 +in 2 Minuten beginne. + +461 +00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:35,309 Bitte sagen Sie ihm, dass ich -3 Minuten später komme. - -462 -00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,288 -Nun, es gibt da noch ein Detail. - -463 -00:29:43,361 --> 00:29:46,524 -Jesus. Fuck. -Wieso wussten wir das nicht? - -464 -00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:48,759 -Keine Ahnung. -Das ist wirklich unglaublich. - -465 -00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:52,292 -- Komm schon. -- Okay. Los gehts. - -466 -00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:55,766 -Oh Mann, das ist schrecklich. - -467 -00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,105 -Das ist das blödeste-- -Ich kann nicht... - -468 -00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:02,044 +3 Minuten später komme. + +462 +00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,288 +Nun, es gibt da noch ein Detail. + +463 +00:29:43,361 --> 00:29:46,524 +Jesus. Fuck. +Wieso wussten wir das nicht? + +464 +00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:48,759 +Keine Ahnung. +Das ist wirklich unglaublich. + +465 +00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:52,292 +- Komm schon. +- Okay. Los gehts. + +466 +00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:55,766 +Oh Mann, das ist schrecklich. + +467 +00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,105 +Das ist das blödeste-- +Ich kann nicht... + +468 +00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:02,044 Das ist--ist eine Stunde Unterschied. -Hier ist eine andere Zeitzone. - -469 -00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:08,147 -Das ist unglaublich. -Wie zur Hölle kann das passieren? - -470 -00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,054 -- Okay, so. Das ist erledigt. -- Meine Damen und Herren... - -471 -00:30:12,124 --> 00:30:14,524 -Okay, schnell, -das Shirt--die Unterwäsche. - -472 -00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,256 -Die goldene Unterwäsche. - -473 -00:30:17,329 --> 00:30:18,591 -Okay... - -474 -00:30:19,998 --> 00:30:21,989 -Muss ich da was durchstecken? - -475 -00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:23,728 -- Nein. -- Okay. - -476 -00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:24,962 -Brauchst du Hilfe? - -477 -00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,238 -- Hängen deine Hoden raus? -- Aehm, ja.. - -478 -00:30:31,209 --> 00:30:32,267 -Okay. - -479 -00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,504 -Los gehts. - -480 -00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:35,939 -Okay. Gut. - -481 -00:30:37,916 --> 00:30:41,647 -Oh Gott. -Okay...Gut. - -482 -00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,188 -- Hier ist ein bisschen Luft drin. -- Okay, jetzt die Hosen. - -483 -00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,847 -Beeil dich. - -484 -00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:53,094 +Hier ist eine andere Zeitzone. + +469 +00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:08,147 +Das ist unglaublich. +Wie zur Hölle kann das passieren? + +470 +00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,054 +- Okay, so. Das ist erledigt. +- Meine Damen und Herren... + +471 +00:30:12,124 --> 00:30:14,524 +Okay, schnell, +das Shirt--die Unterwäsche. + +472 +00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,256 +Die goldene Unterwäsche. + +473 +00:30:17,329 --> 00:30:18,591 +Okay... + +474 +00:30:19,998 --> 00:30:21,989 +Muss ich da was durchstecken? + +475 +00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:23,728 +- Nein. +- Okay. + +476 +00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:24,962 +Brauchst du Hilfe? + +477 +00:30:26,838 --> 00:30:29,238 +- Hängen deine Hoden raus? +- Aehm, ja.. + +478 +00:30:31,209 --> 00:30:32,267 +Okay. + +479 +00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,504 +Los gehts. + +480 +00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:35,939 +Okay. Gut. + +481 +00:30:37,916 --> 00:30:41,647 +Oh Gott. +Okay...Gut. + +482 +00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,188 +- Hier ist ein bisschen Luft drin. +- Okay, jetzt die Hosen. + +483 +00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,847 +Beeil dich. + +484 +00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:53,094 Oh, Hi. Schön, Sie kennenzulernen. -Es tut mir so leid. - -485 -00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:13,348 -Danke. -Es tut mir schrecklich leid-- - -486 -00:31:15,787 --> 00:31:17,618 +Es tut mir so leid. + +485 +00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:13,348 +Danke. +Es tut mir schrecklich leid-- + +486 +00:31:15,787 --> 00:31:17,618 Ja, ich werde die Präsentation -halten. - -487 -00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:20,788 -Tut mir schrecklich leid. - -488 -00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:24,727 +halten. + +487 +00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:20,788 +Tut mir schrecklich leid. + +488 +00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:24,727 Ich denke die Welthandelsorganistion sollte über Zeitzonen Bescheid wissen, aber... - -489 -00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,922 + +489 +00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,922 Jemand sagte, -"Ist dort nicht eine andere Zeitzone?" - -490 -00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,096 +"Ist dort nicht eine andere Zeitzone?" + +490 +00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,096 Und ich sagte, "Nein. Ganz Europa -hat die gleiche Zeitzone." - -491 -00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,004 -- Und das hat uns alle überzeugt. -- Mich auch. - -492 -00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:40,238 +hat die gleiche Zeitzone." + +491 +00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,004 +- Und das hat uns alle überzeugt. +- Mich auch. + +492 +00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:40,238 Wir waren überzeugt, dass es die richtige -Zeit ist, und dann sind wir heute Morgen... - -493 -00:31:40,312 --> 00:31:43,440 -5 oder 10 Minuten zu spät aufgewacht, - -494 -00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:47,474 +Zeit ist, und dann sind wir heute Morgen... + +493 +00:31:40,312 --> 00:31:43,440 +5 oder 10 Minuten zu spät aufgewacht, + +494 +00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:47,474 und haben dann bemerkt, dass der Laptop -nicht funktioniert. - -495 -00:31:47,552 --> 00:31:49,952 +nicht funktioniert. + +495 +00:31:47,552 --> 00:31:49,952 Nein, vielleicht können wir die -Reihenfolge ändern. - -496 -00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,353 +Reihenfolge ändern. + +496 +00:31:50,021 --> 00:31:52,353 Können wir jemand anders vorziehen, -und ich bin später dran? - -497 -00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,153 +und ich bin später dran? + +497 +00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,153 Sie sagten, "Ich denke, das können -wir machen." - -498 -00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,320 +wir machen." + +498 +00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,320 Sie haben dann die Kaffee-Leute -angerufen und mit ihnen gesprochen, - -499 -00:31:57,395 --> 00:31:58,953 -um zu sehen, das mit dem Kaffee klappt. - -500 -00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,019 -Das wars. - -501 -00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,538 -Vielen Dank. - -502 -00:33:15,106 --> 00:33:16,368 -Dieser hier... - -503 +angerufen und mit ihnen gesprochen, + +499 +00:31:57,395 --> 00:31:58,953 +um zu sehen, das mit dem Kaffee klappt. + +500 +00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,019 +Das wars. + +501 +00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,538 +Vielen Dank. + +502 +00:33:15,106 --> 00:33:16,368 +Dieser hier... + +503 00:33:17,642 --> 00:33:21,373 Es ist mir eine Ehre, hier in Tampere -sein zu können, und vor Ihnen zu reden, - -504 -00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:25,177 +sein zu können, und vor Ihnen zu reden, + +504 +00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:25,177 den herausragendsten Textilarbeitern -der Welt. - -505 -00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:30,451 +der Welt. + +505 +00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:30,451 Ich sehe hier in allen Gesichern einen ergreifenden, kindlichen Eifer, - -506 -00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:34,390 + +506 +00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:34,390 die grössten Textil-Fragen der Welt -in Angriff zu nehmen. - -507 -00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:36,791 -Wie passt die WTO da hinein? - -508 -00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:41,355 +in Angriff zu nehmen. + +507 +00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:36,791 +Wie passt die WTO da hinein? + +508 +00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:41,355 Was wir bei von WTO machen wollen, ist Ihnen zu helfen, ihre Profitziele -zu erreichen. - -509 -00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,697 +zu erreichen. + +509 +00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,697 Und in nur 20 Minuten von jetzt an - - -510 -00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:48,000 + + +510 +00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:48,000 werde ich Ihnen die Lösungen der WTO - - -511 -00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:51,804 + + +511 +00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:51,804 zu zwei der grössten Managementprobleme -vorstellen. - -512 -00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,107 -One--maintaining rapport -with distant workforce, - -513 -00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,014 -and two--maintaining -healthful amounts of leisure. - -514 -00:33:59,084 --> 00:34:03,282 -This solution, appropriately enough, -is based in textiles. - -515 -00:34:05,824 --> 00:34:09,191 -But how did workers -ever get to be a problem? - -516 -00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:12,227 -Before unveiling our solution, - -517 -00:34:12,297 --> 00:34:17,291 -I'd like to talk a bit about the history -of the worker management problem. - -518 -00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:21,032 -We all know about the American -Civil War--at least in the U.S. - -519 -00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:25,270 -It was the bloodiest, least-profitable war -in the history of our country. - -520 -00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:27,709 -A war in which unbelievably -huge amounts of money - -521 -00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:30,942 -went right down the drain-- -and all for textiles. - -522 -00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:35,952 -By the 1860s, the South -was utterly flush with cash. - -523 -00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,511 -It had recently benefited -from the cotton gin-- - -524 -00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:41,058 -an invention that took -the seeds out of cotton - -525 -00:34:41,126 --> 00:34:44,095 -and the South -out of its pre-industrial past. - -526 -00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,823 -Hundreds of thousands of workers - -527 -00:34:45,897 --> 00:34:48,331 -previously unemployed -in their countries of origin - -528 -00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,391 -were given useful jobs in textiles. - -529 -00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,162 -Into this rosy picture of freedom -and boom stepped--you guessed it-- - -530 -00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,231 -the North. - -531 -00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:01,301 -Now, some Civil War apologists have said -that the Civil War, for all its faults, - -532 -00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:03,609 -at least had the effect of outlawing - -533 -00:35:03,681 --> 00:35:06,616 -an involuntarily imported -workforce model of work. - -534 -00:35:06,684 --> 00:35:09,278 -Now, this model is, of course, -a terrible thing. - -535 -00:35:09,354 --> 00:35:11,345 -I myself am an abolitionist. - -536 -00:35:11,423 --> 00:35:15,757 -But, in fact, there is no doubt -that, left to their own devices, - -537 -00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:20,423 -markets would've eventually replaced -slavery with cleaner sources of labor. - -538 -00:35:21,065 --> 00:35:23,363 -To prove my point, -please join me - -539 -00:35:23,435 --> 00:35:26,768 -on what Albert Einstein used to call -a thought experiment. - -540 -00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:32,006 -Suppose involuntarily imported labor -had never been outlawed. - -541 -00:35:32,076 --> 00:35:35,671 -That slaves still existed, -and that it were easy to own one. - -542 -00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:39,581 -What do you think it would cost today -to profitably maintain a slave, - -543 -00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:41,642 -say, here in Tampere? - -544 -00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,123 -Let's see...a finished clothing set -costs $50 at the very least. - -545 -00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,923 -Two meals from McDonald's -cost about $10.00. - -546 -00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:54,988 -The cheapest small room -probably runs for about $250 a month. - -547 -00:35:55,066 --> 00:35:58,001 -To function well, you have to pay -for your slave's health care. - -548 -00:35:58,069 --> 00:36:02,130 -If its country of origin was polluted, -for example, that might run expensively. - -549 -00:36:02,207 --> 00:36:05,199 -And, of course, what with -child labor laws here in Finland, - -550 -00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,109 -much of the youth market -is simply not available. - -551 -00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:13,150 -Now leave the same slave -back at home. Let's say Gabon. - -552 -00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:17,086 -In Gabon, $10 pays -for two weeks of food. - -553 -00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:22,218 -$250 pays for two years -of housing, not a month, at best. - -554 -00:36:22,293 --> 00:36:25,956 -$50 pays for a lifetime -of budget clothing. - -555 -00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,964 -And health care is, -of course, cheaper. - -556 -00:36:28,032 --> 00:36:32,867 -On top of it all...youth can be -gainfully employed without restriction. - -557 -00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,428 -The biggest benefit -of the remote labor system, though, - -558 -00:36:35,507 --> 00:36:37,668 -is to the slave him or herself, - -559 -00:36:37,742 --> 00:36:42,008 -because in Gabon there is no need -for the slave not to be free. - -560 -00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,479 -This is primarily because - -561 -00:36:43,548 --> 00:36:46,483 -there are no one-time -slave transport costs to recoup - -562 -00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,542 -and so the potential losses -from fleeing - -563 -00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,919 -are limited to the slave's -rudimentary training. - -564 -00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,049 -Since the slave can be free, - -565 -00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,617 -he or she suddenly becomes -a worker rather than a slave. - -566 -00:36:57,695 --> 00:37:01,290 -Also terrific for morale -is that slaves--workers-- - -567 -00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:03,766 -have the luxury of remaining -in their native habitat - -568 -00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:06,702 -and don't have to relocate to places -where they would be subject - -569 -00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:10,263 -to such unpleasantries -as homesickness and racism. - -570 -00:37:11,009 --> 00:37:14,172 -I think it's clear -from our little thought experiment - -571 -00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:17,737 -that if the North and South -had simply let the market sort it out - -572 -00:37:17,815 --> 00:37:19,612 -without protectionist tariffs, - -573 -00:37:19,684 --> 00:37:23,745 -they would've quickly given up slavery -for something more efficient anyhow. - -574 -00:37:23,821 --> 00:37:25,152 -By forcing the issue, - -575 -00:37:25,223 --> 00:37:29,159 -the North not only committed a terrible -injustice against the freedom of the South, - -576 -00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,161 -but also deprived slavery - -577 -00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:34,426 -of its natural development -into remote labor. - -578 -00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:38,324 -Had the leaders -of the 1860s United States - -579 -00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:40,963 -understood what our leaders -understand today, - -580 -00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,303 -the Civil War -would never have happened. - -581 -00:37:44,142 --> 00:37:47,009 -In a world where the headquarters -of a company might be in New York, - -582 -00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,342 -Hong Kong, or Espoo, Finland, - -583 -00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:53,578 -and the workers are in Gabon, -Rangoon, or Estonia, - -584 -00:37:53,651 --> 00:37:56,984 -how does a manager maintain -proper rapport with the workers, - -585 -00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,216 -and how does he or she -ensure from a distance - -586 -00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:02,350 -that workers perform their work -in an ethical fashion? - -587 -00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:05,790 -I'm about to show you -an actual prototype - -588 -00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:10,323 -of the WTO's solution to two major -management problems of today. - -589 -00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,234 -Now, we all know that not even -the best workplace design - -590 -00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:16,967 -can help even the most -astute manager keep track of workers. - -591 -00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:22,308 -What you need is a solution that enables -complete rapport with workers-- - -592 -00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,871 -especially when they're -located far away. - -593 -00:38:26,084 --> 00:38:28,245 -Mike, would you help me a moment? - -594 -00:38:50,775 --> 00:38:52,106 -Thank you. - -595 -00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,906 -This is much better. -Much more comfortable. - -596 -00:38:56,414 --> 00:39:00,578 -This is the WTO's answer to two -of the major management problems, - -597 -00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:03,712 -and we're calling it -the Management Leisure Suit. - -598 -00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,120 -It's--the two problems again-- - -599 -00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:09,023 -how to maintain close rapport -with distant workers - -600 -00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:13,928 -und wie man die Gemütlichkeit bewahrt -und die entspannenden Aktivitäten verschönert. - -601 -00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,831 -Wie funktioniert -der Management-Entspannungs-Anzug? - -602 -00:39:16,901 --> 00:39:20,064 -Ich versichere ihnen, -dass er aussergewöhnlich bequem ist. - -603 -00:39:20,138 --> 00:39:23,904 -Nun ja, lassen sie mich seine wichtigsten -Austattungsmerkmale erläutern. - -604 -00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,625 -Dies ... - -605 -00:39:50,702 --> 00:39:54,103 -Dies ist das A.V.A.-- - -606 -00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:58,040 -das Mitarbeiter-Visualisierungs-Anhängsel. - -607 -00:39:58,109 --> 00:40:01,476 -Es ist ein sofort einsetzbares -Hüft-montiertes Gerät - -608 -00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:04,606 -komplett freihändig steuerbar ... - -609 -00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:09,016 -das dem Manager gestattet, -seine Mitarbeiter genau hier zu beobachten. - -610 -00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:13,490 -Informationen über den genauen Umfang -und die Qualität der körperlichen Arbeit - -611 -00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:15,651 -werden übertragen -und sind nicht nur einfach sichtbar, - -612 -00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:21,359 -sondern werden durch elektrische Leitungen -direkt in den Manager hineingeschickt. - -613 -00:40:21,432 --> 00:40:25,766 -Die Arbeiter sind dafür mit -einem passenden Sende-Chip ausgestattet - -614 -00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:29,637 -die direkt in ihre Schulter -implantiert wurden. - -615 -00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:32,699 -Die andere - und ebenso nützliche - Errungenschaft -des Management-Entspannungs-Anzugs (MEA) - -616 -00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,438 -hat etwas mit der Entspannung zu tun. - -617 -00:40:34,512 --> 00:40:38,312 -In den USA hat sich die Entspannung -(ein Synonym für Freiheit) - -618 -00:40:38,382 --> 00:40:42,284 -seit den 70er Jahren -kontinuierlich verringert. - -619 -00:40:42,353 --> 00:40:45,948 -Der Management-Entspannungs-Anzug -gestattet dem Manager diesen Trend umzukehren - -620 -00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,321 -indem er seine Arbeit überall machen kann - -621 -00:40:48,392 --> 00:40:51,486 -und trotzdem den direkten Kontakt -zu seinen Mitarbeitern bewahrt, - -622 -00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:55,225 -und körperlich wahrnimmt was seine -Arbeitskräfte tun. - -623 -00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:58,234 -Dies wird durch Elektroden ermöglicht, -die direkt in den Manager implantiert sind. - -624 -00:40:58,302 --> 00:41:01,135 -TODO Again, the manager -sees the employees, - -625 -00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:03,366 -but also feels what they're feeling - -626 -00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,775 -and can select where to focus -in the workplace environment. - -627 -00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,011 -So, in conclusion, - -628 -00:41:11,082 --> 00:41:14,745 -I'd like to ask, -is this a science-fiction scenario? - -629 -00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:21,914 -The answer is no. - -630 -00:41:22,927 --> 00:41:25,452 -Everything we've seen here, -everything we've been talking about - -631 -00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:27,020 -is entirely possible today. - -632 -00:41:27,832 --> 00:41:31,233 -We can always look forward -on the highways of progress - -633 -00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:33,361 -towards ever-new horizons - -634 -00:41:33,437 --> 00:41:37,703 -with cooperation and mutual delight -in the fruits of prosperity. - -635 -00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:40,835 -I'm very excited to be here. -Thank you very much. - -636 -00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,098 -Something we're trying -to do more and more as... - -637 -00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:32,620 -I wasn't depressed -by people not reacting, - -638 -00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,098 -I wasn't depressed by people just -swallowing it and not asking questions - -639 -00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:40,661 -because I thought, "Well, that shows -that you need some sort of control," - -640 -00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:44,071 -because the WTO--me-- -can come in - -641 -00:42:44,141 --> 00:42:48,407 -and say these amazingly hideous things -to this group of the most educated people, - -642 -00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:52,210 -like the top .1% education-wise people -in the entire world - -643 -00:42:52,283 --> 00:42:54,148 -in a developed country -like Finland-- - -644 -00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,686 -these people all have PhDs -or advanced degrees-- - -645 -00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,745 -and you can say -the most atrocious things - -646 -00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:02,315 -and nobody will really react -and nobody will really care. - -647 -00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:06,921 -It's like, you know, -what can't corporations get away with? - -648 -00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,641 -So, where are we? - -649 -00:43:20,711 --> 00:43:23,305 -Well, we're arriving -in Helsinki right now. - -650 -00:43:24,482 --> 00:43:26,416 -We left the conference this morning. - -651 -00:43:26,484 --> 00:43:31,478 -It was just--it had driven us -completely mad after dinner last night. - -652 -00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:33,955 -I think we had our fill with dinner. - -653 -00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,084 -I had to actually leave -a little bit early. - -654 -00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,494 -I went over to the table where Unruh-- - -655 -00:43:40,564 --> 00:43:44,694 -Hank Hardy had to sit -with the big men and eat, - -656 -00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:47,101 -and I told him -that we needed to leave - -657 -00:43:47,171 --> 00:43:51,835 -because we had a telephone meeting -with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately. - -658 -00:43:53,878 --> 00:43:55,209 -- Great. -- Hi. - -659 -00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:56,610 -Sorry to butt in a minute, - -660 -00:43:56,681 --> 00:43:59,013 -but we're supposed to meet -Manduka Djubango... - -661 -00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:00,812 -- Oh, God. -- ...at 10:00. - -662 -00:44:00,885 --> 00:44:02,716 -And then we both started laughing, - -663 -00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:05,984 -which was really not convenient -for the context. - -664 -00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:10,016 -So we left, and we just decided -that, basically, - -665 -00:44:10,094 --> 00:44:14,497 -we couldn't figure out what else -we could possibly do at this conference, - -666 -00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:18,228 -so we just thought, "Well, -let's go to Helsinki instead." - -667 -00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:20,665 -So, this is the paper. - -668 -00:44:20,738 --> 00:44:23,070 -On the front page-- -I just discovered it-- - -669 -00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,473 -it says there's a seminar -at the university - -670 -00:44:26,544 --> 00:44:30,878 -and that somebody talked -about controlling remote workers - -671 -00:44:30,948 --> 00:44:34,111 -with electrical impulsions. - -672 -00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:37,018 -And then you turn to the page, and... - -673 -00:44:38,356 --> 00:44:39,846 -...and that's what you get. - -674 -00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:45,794 -And this right here represents -the World Trade Organization. - -675 -00:44:45,863 --> 00:44:50,891 -This... is -the World Trade Organization. - -676 -00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:59,600 -I went down to these -Mexican border towns in the mid '80s. - -677 -00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,508 -They were called "Maquilladoras" - -678 -00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:04,173 -when they had -the first trade agreements - -679 -00:45:04,248 --> 00:45:06,944 -between Mexico and the United States. - -680 -00:45:07,018 --> 00:45:10,283 -And everyone was saying, "This is -gonna raise Mexico out of poverty," - -681 -00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:12,845 -and things were gonna be so great, -and within ten years, - -682 -00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,517 -they'd all be driving -shiny new cars in Mexico. - -683 -00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:18,528 -And I went down there and saw this-- - -684 -00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,430 -the incredible poverty -in these Mexican border towns. - -685 -00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,402 -Fifteen years later, I went back. -Not a damn thing had changed. - -686 -00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:29,928 -Here's all these workers working -for all these American corporations, - -687 -00:45:30,007 --> 00:45:32,532 -and you just go across the street - -688 -00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:35,704 -and you found people -living in the same horrid conditions, - -689 -00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:37,771 -the same poverty existing. - -690 -00:45:37,848 --> 00:45:41,579 -And you had to ask, -"Well, who's benefiting from this?" - -691 -00:45:41,652 --> 00:45:44,143 -Who benefited were -these American corporations. - -692 -00:45:44,221 --> 00:45:46,712 -During the 1990s, -they became even more wealthy, - -693 -00:45:46,791 --> 00:45:49,954 -they posted record profits-- -larger record profits, - -694 -00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,757 -and the people in Mexico -just continued to suffer. - -695 -00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:55,390 -It was all a big scam. - -696 -00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,949 -Is this the one? - -697 -00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:17,419 -No. You got the wrong one. - -698 -00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:18,648 -Shit. - -699 -00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:21,681 -"Will WTO stand up?" - -700 -00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:24,751 -Oh, my God. It's got pictures. -They're nice, too. - -701 -00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:26,820 -Yeah, they actually look okay -at that size. - -702 -00:46:26,897 --> 00:46:30,560 -"Bichlbaum isn't... -but he plays one on TV." - -703 -00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:33,034 -This is basically the core -of what we do. - -704 -00:46:33,104 --> 00:46:36,801 -All of these newspapers -and magazines have articles - -705 -00:46:36,874 --> 00:46:38,603 -on the Yes Men, - -706 -00:46:38,676 --> 00:46:42,168 -and this is why -we are doing these things. - -707 -00:46:42,246 --> 00:46:44,237 -This is why we go -and do these conferences. - -708 -00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:46,647 -It's not for the 200 people -or the hundred people - -709 -00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,878 -that might see us give the lecture. - -710 -00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:50,784 -Although we'd like them to come away - -711 -00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:53,517 -with an interesting experience -from the lecture, - -712 -00:46:53,591 --> 00:46:57,994 -the reason we do it is so that people -who read Bizarre magazine - -713 -00:46:58,062 --> 00:47:00,860 -or the New York Times -or Fortune or Harper's - -714 -00:47:00,931 --> 00:47:03,593 -can read about it -in the mainstream press. - -715 -00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:06,192 -This is how millions of people -could read about it - -716 -00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:11,572 -and potentially get turned on -to some of the ideas of anti-globalization. - -717 -00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:14,805 -One of the problems -with the Fortune thing - -718 -00:47:14,879 --> 00:47:18,610 -is that it's in this-- -well, Fortune-- - -719 -00:47:18,682 --> 00:47:22,846 -it's read by business people -and accountants and that kind of thing. - -720 -00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,758 -And that's exactly who we're supposed -to be talking to in Australia in May. - -721 -00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:31,658 -It's an accounting conference. - -722 -00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:34,721 -It's a little... -a little worrisome. - -723 -00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,743 -You need a new shirt? -One that's not wrinkled? - -724 -00:47:47,811 --> 00:47:48,800 -Yeah. - -725 -00:47:48,879 --> 00:47:50,710 -Will that be good with your thing? - -726 -00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:53,213 -Do you think it'll work -with your suit? - -727 -00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:56,776 -This one's extra large. Yeah, they'll all -work with my suit. It's terrible. - -728 -00:47:56,854 --> 00:47:59,186 -- It's striped, though. Is that okay? -- Yeah. - -729 -00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:02,489 -- Sure it's okay. -- Why don't you go get a shirt, then? - -730 -00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,893 -I'll just get this. Wait. -Oh, it's not very much cotton. - -731 -00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,624 -- How much is it? -- I hate that. - -732 -00:48:07,698 --> 00:48:10,360 -- 35%? -- It's 35%. It's like... - -733 -00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:11,526 -No, it's fine for-- - -734 -00:48:11,602 --> 00:48:13,536 -It doesn't wrinkle much-- -that's nice about that. - -735 -00:48:13,604 --> 00:48:16,164 -I'll just wear it. All right. - -736 -00:48:22,846 --> 00:48:25,508 -The thing is, there's a question -of whether he's-- - -737 -00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:28,313 -at what point he recognizes you -doesn't really matter. - -738 -00:48:28,385 --> 00:48:31,877 -What we want is that moment -when he does recognize you. - -739 -00:48:31,956 --> 00:48:34,948 -So if he recognizes you here -and sees that you're in the room, - -740 -00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:38,290 -then he'll be looking back and forth -at you, at the screen. - -741 -00:48:38,362 --> 00:48:41,695 -At that point, if he recognizes you, -we better say something. - -742 -00:48:45,536 --> 00:48:47,868 -No, I think it's down here, -but I don't know. - -743 -00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,801 -It must be right down Morris. - -744 -00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,035 -Remember we walked... - -745 -00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,442 -It's on the end of this line here. - -746 -00:49:11,228 --> 00:49:12,286 -Thanks. - -747 -00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:18,260 -- Andy, hi. How're you doing? -- Barry. Nice to meet you. - -748 -00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:20,963 -- Good to meet you. -- Good. Great. - -749 -00:49:21,038 --> 00:49:22,198 -We're in London, - -750 -00:49:22,273 --> 00:49:26,266 -and we were just at the offices -of the World Development Movement - -751 -00:49:26,343 --> 00:49:27,833 -where we talked to Barry Coates, - -752 -00:49:27,911 --> 00:49:30,072 -who's the director -of the World Development Movement - -753 -00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,140 -and who showed up -on CNBC MarketWrap Europe - -754 -00:49:34,218 --> 00:49:37,881 -debating our friend here-- -Granwyth Hulatberi-- - -755 -00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:42,289 -about the prospects of WTO -and globalization. - -756 -00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:46,022 -We kind of expected him maybe to have -a glimmer of recognition immediately, - -757 -00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,358 -and he didn't--okay. - -758 -00:49:47,431 --> 00:49:50,025 -Then we put on the tape and... - -759 -00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,264 -he laughed -at how horribly stupid it was, - -760 -00:49:54,338 --> 00:49:55,999 -but he never realized - -761 -00:49:56,073 --> 00:49:59,406 -that this wasn't really -a representative of the WTO. - -762 -00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:02,070 -Even when he saw me -like this right next to him, - -763 -00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:05,172 -and then we switched seats -and he still didn't notice. - -764 -00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,707 -Then I had to put my face -next to the thing and go... - -765 -00:50:08,786 --> 00:50:10,913 -Yeah, let's just pause it here. - -766 -00:50:10,988 --> 00:50:13,149 -- Okay. Hit stop. -- Is there a pause? - -767 -00:50:13,223 --> 00:50:15,054 -- Stop button. -- There's no pause. - -768 -00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:18,754 -I don't know what I could've said -after that clip. - -769 -00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:20,558 -I mean...really... - -770 -00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:26,129 -"Where did they get this guy from?" -might've been my first comment. - -771 -00:50:26,203 --> 00:50:28,865 -So did you ever figure out -where they got the guy from? - -772 -00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:36,136 -I understood that he was in the External -Relations Department for the WTO. - -773 -00:50:36,213 --> 00:50:39,080 -- That's what they thought, too. -- That's what they thought, as well. - -774 -00:50:39,783 --> 00:50:40,943 -- But... -- But... - -775 -00:50:41,018 --> 00:50:44,010 -- ...as it happens, he wasn't. -- Yeah. - -776 -00:50:44,088 --> 00:50:47,057 -- In fact-- -- Just take one more close look. - -777 -00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:50,854 -Wait, can we--is this reverse? - -778 -00:50:54,398 --> 00:50:55,888 -No! - -779 -00:50:59,269 --> 00:51:01,533 -I wasn't gonna mention the likeness. - -780 -00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,565 -You were being very polite, -weren't you? Yeah. - -781 -00:51:06,577 --> 00:51:08,238 -- Yeah. -- You did it as a spoof? - -782 -00:51:08,379 --> 00:51:10,108 -- Yeah. -- Yeah. Basically... - -783 -00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:14,644 -That's good. We weren't sure -how you would react. - -784 -00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:18,313 -We were really hoping you wouldn't be -too offended. We were like, "Oh, no!" - -785 -00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:20,721 -Hell, no. That's great. -That's really-- - -786 -00:51:20,791 --> 00:51:23,624 -I was wondering, -'cause I hadn't seen that guy before, - -787 -00:51:23,694 --> 00:51:27,095 -and I did know some of the WTO -External Relations people, - -788 -00:51:27,164 --> 00:51:31,260 -and I was thinking, "My God, -they really put up a right one this time." - -789 -00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,997 -We wanted to talk -to Barry Coates as well - -790 -00:51:34,071 --> 00:51:39,008 -because he has a lot of statistics -and information about globalization - -791 -00:51:39,076 --> 00:51:42,443 -that we thought would be useful -for the lecture in Australia. - -792 -00:51:42,513 --> 00:51:45,004 -All of the WTO agreements bar one - -793 -00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:48,347 -are all about restricting -what governments can do. - -794 -00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:53,015 -And so, essentially, the whole -trading system is built on the premise - -795 -00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:58,255 -that the companies trading internationally, -investing internationally, - -796 -00:51:58,328 --> 00:52:03,322 -are going to be preyed upon -by nasty governments. - -797 -00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,732 -And, really, what we have - -798 -00:52:05,803 --> 00:52:08,738 -is an international system -that is entirely the reverse. - -799 -00:52:08,806 --> 00:52:11,001 -What's got squeezed out of the system - -800 -00:52:11,074 --> 00:52:14,066 -is democracy, -is development, is environment, - -801 -00:52:14,144 --> 00:52:17,136 -is the kind of human values - -802 -00:52:17,214 --> 00:52:20,650 -which really ought to be the center -of what we're trying to do. - -803 -00:52:20,717 --> 00:52:24,209 -We don't live to trade, you know. - -804 -00:52:24,288 --> 00:52:27,121 -We live to have decent lives. - -805 -00:52:27,191 --> 00:52:29,682 -And that ought to be the goal -of our trade policy, - -806 -00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,788 -not maximizing trade -or getting rid of any impediments to it. - -807 -00:53:00,224 --> 00:53:02,351 -Looks good. -I've got that. - -808 -00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,721 -Need to get the video... - -809 -00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,929 -...and we'll be off. - -810 -00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:10,432 -Let's see... - -811 -00:53:13,237 --> 00:53:16,070 -One of the big reasons -why I'm up here - -812 -00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:20,098 -is that we have the Australia gig -for the Yes Men. - -813 -00:53:20,177 --> 00:53:24,170 -I did an animation about the recycling -of post-consumer waste - -814 -00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:27,979 -into hamburgers and fast food. - -815 -00:53:28,051 --> 00:53:30,281 -So...here we go. - -816 -00:53:30,921 --> 00:53:34,516 -The answer to the world's -sustainable food future is in recycling. - -817 -00:53:35,826 --> 00:53:38,420 -Since over half our nutrients -taken in are eliminated, - -818 -00:53:38,495 --> 00:53:39,894 -valuable resources are at risk. - -819 -00:53:39,963 --> 00:53:43,364 -By using post-consumer waste, -reBurger allows essential nutrients - -820 -00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:46,732 -to be offered to developing countries -for greatly reduced cost. - -821 -00:53:48,038 --> 00:53:49,699 -Okay... - -822 -00:53:54,411 --> 00:53:56,072 -It gets better. - -823 -00:53:57,314 --> 00:53:58,576 -- Wait. -- What was that? - -824 -00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:01,140 -- Was that in outer space? -- What the hell was that? - -825 -00:54:01,785 --> 00:54:04,720 -I think it does the job. -I think it does the job. - -826 -00:54:07,624 --> 00:54:11,617 -We're here in New York -because Herb Alpert, - -827 -00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:14,687 -of Herb Alpert -and the Tijuana Brass, - -828 -00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:16,926 -gave us this award. - -829 -00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,664 -A bunch of money to do -the kind of stuff that we do. - -830 -00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:24,229 -So we had to come here -and have dinner with him - -831 -00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:26,970 -and get the money -and thank everybody. - -832 -00:54:27,044 --> 00:54:29,877 -It was very nice -and very surprising. - -833 -00:54:29,947 --> 00:54:33,280 -But we're very pleased. -I think we can say we're very pleased. - -834 -00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:35,845 -Yeah, it was a big chunk of money. - -835 -00:54:35,919 --> 00:54:39,753 -It's gonna bankroll a lot -of future activities like going to Australia. - -836 -00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,949 -Yeah, so we got -this chunk of money but, - -837 -00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:45,358 -of course, now we're -also using this opportunity - -838 -00:54:45,429 --> 00:54:48,091 -and this hotel room here in New York -to meet up with Matt - -839 -00:54:48,165 --> 00:54:51,157 -who's been working on the PowerPoint -presentation for Australia, - -840 -00:54:51,234 --> 00:54:52,826 -and to meet up with Patrick - -841 -00:54:52,903 --> 00:54:56,498 -who's been working on animations -for Australia as well. - -842 -00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:00,703 -Fortunately we were lucky, too, -because Snafu was in town. - -843 -00:55:00,777 --> 00:55:03,507 -He's sort of a European Yes Man. - -844 -00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:05,673 -He's been circulating -in the European scene - -845 -00:55:05,749 --> 00:55:08,240 -doing Yes Men-type activities. - -846 -00:55:08,318 --> 00:55:11,253 -But it's a good thing -he's here in the States - -847 -00:55:11,321 --> 00:55:13,653 -so he could go -to Plattsburgh with us. - -848 -00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:16,215 -Yes, trade liberalization -is a religious undertaking. - -849 -00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,853 -A project of faith, a crusade of sorts, -and it has been - -850 -00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:22,296 -ever since its founders declared -that financial success comes from God - -851 -00:55:22,366 --> 00:55:25,358 -and that wealth -is a sign of divine favor. - -852 -00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:29,667 -Now, why is starvation a problem? -First, the facts. - -853 -00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,834 -As we all know, investment -and exports have been on the rise... - -854 -00:55:35,646 --> 00:55:37,307 -There's some bad news. - -855 -00:55:37,381 --> 00:55:40,646 -There's some really bad news -that came down in the last two days. - -856 -00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:43,984 -The conference in Australia-- - -857 -00:55:44,054 --> 00:55:46,716 -the people from the conference -in Australia wrote an e-mail - -858 -00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:51,454 -saying that the conference has been -canceled because of low enrollment. - -859 -00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:54,190 -In some ways -it's really kind of, I guess, - -860 -00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:56,596 -a nice thing -that there was underenrollment - -861 -00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:58,828 -because it was really -a hideous conference - -862 -00:55:58,902 --> 00:56:00,961 -and it seemed like a really dire thing - -863 -00:56:01,038 --> 00:56:03,871 -that people would actually -want to go to that thing. - -864 -00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,272 -And so, it's really -encouraging for humanity - -865 -00:56:06,343 --> 00:56:08,743 -that the conference -actually has been canceled. - -866 -00:56:08,812 --> 00:56:12,839 -But at the same time, it's really -made things difficult for us. - -867 -00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:14,907 -So I wrote back to them -as Hildegard West - -868 -00:56:14,985 --> 00:56:18,648 -and I asked them if they -would please set up another venue - -869 -00:56:18,722 --> 00:56:22,317 -because Kinnithrung Sprat -is already en route to Australia. - -870 -00:56:22,392 --> 00:56:25,793 -So right now I'm waiting to see -if they come back to us - -871 -00:56:25,862 --> 00:56:29,696 -with a suggestion that they'll actually -have a public presentation, - -872 -00:56:29,766 --> 00:56:32,496 -but since the conference -has been canceled, - -873 -00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:38,098 -now the event in Plattsburgh might be -the only venue we have for this lecture. - -874 -00:56:38,175 --> 00:56:41,611 -So it's really important now that we get -the lecture done and sort of together. - -875 -00:56:41,678 --> 00:56:48,413 -So it's no longer a dress rehearsal. -It's actually, like, the final production. - -876 -00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:51,317 -It's about time. - -877 -00:56:51,388 --> 00:56:53,481 -I was so worried about your shoes. - -878 -00:56:53,557 --> 00:56:56,355 -This guy brought -real shoes for you. Look. - -879 -00:56:56,426 --> 00:56:58,257 -Do we have the hamburgers yet? - -880 -00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,121 -- We have to pick them up. -- You mentioned-- - -881 -00:57:01,198 --> 00:57:03,530 -They're ordered. -Richard ordered them already. - -882 -00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,431 -- That's fantastic. -- We pick them up? - -883 -00:57:05,502 --> 00:57:08,562 -Basically, there's this guy -named Richard Robbins who I met - -884 -00:57:08,638 --> 00:57:10,629 -at a conference -about a month ago, - -885 -00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:15,508 -and he has written -several books on globalization. - -886 -00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,843 -He was interested -in having the WTO - -887 -00:57:18,915 --> 00:57:21,315 -come speak -at the Economics Department. - -888 -00:57:21,384 --> 00:57:24,785 -Only he really knows that this -isn't really the WTO. - -889 -00:57:24,855 --> 00:57:27,119 -Everybody else will think -that it's the WTO. - -890 -00:57:27,741 --> 00:57:30,437 -But another good thing is -that it will be a hungry audience, - -891 -00:57:30,511 --> 00:57:33,503 -so there's a good chance -they are going to eat those hamburgers, - -892 -00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,741 -which we weren't sure -was actually gonna happen - -893 -00:57:35,816 --> 00:57:38,148 -with the accountants in Australia. - -894 -00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,513 -I think, for look, -I should probably carry these in. - -895 -00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,581 -Okay. Can you do it? - -896 -00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:49,493 -I'm thinking that you probably shouldn't -be associated with the hamburgers. - -897 -00:57:49,563 --> 00:57:50,825 -Okay. - -898 -00:57:50,898 --> 00:57:53,298 -I'd like to thank everybody for coming. - -899 -00:57:53,367 --> 00:57:59,033 -You have many education choices, -and we're all grateful at the WTO - -900 -00:57:59,106 --> 00:58:02,075 -that you have chosen -to listen to us for an hour - -901 -00:58:02,142 --> 00:58:05,475 -and to our messages about things -that will impact everyone. - -902 -00:58:05,546 --> 00:58:07,878 -I'd like to say that, -by joining us here, - -903 -00:58:07,948 --> 00:58:11,008 -you're essentially embarking -with us on a mission. - -904 -00:58:12,052 --> 00:58:14,646 -I'd like to start right at the beginning. - -905 -00:58:14,722 --> 00:58:16,383 -As I was saying, - -906 -00:58:16,457 --> 00:58:20,518 -trade liberalization is a project of faith; -it's a crusade. - -907 -00:58:20,594 --> 00:58:22,653 -And in any crusade, -there are problems. - -908 -00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,392 -There are invading armies, -there are big blockades. - -909 -00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,301 -And one of the problems -that we run into in this crusade - -910 -00:58:30,370 --> 00:58:32,065 -is starvation in the Third World. - -911 -00:58:32,139 --> 00:58:35,472 -You may recognize that symbol -from those green bins you see... - -912 -00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:37,737 -where cans, bottles, blah, blah. - -913 -00:58:37,811 --> 00:58:41,645 -The kind of recycling I'm talking about -that we have developed at the WTO - -914 -00:58:41,715 --> 00:58:46,778 -is...not--not really -this irrelevant kind of recycling - -915 -00:58:46,854 --> 00:58:50,017 -where the target-- -individual consumers like you and me - -916 -00:58:50,090 --> 00:58:55,585 -or of non-edible industrial products-- -is such a tiny part of the problem. - -917 -00:58:55,662 --> 00:59:00,861 -Rather, we're talking about really -recycling what counts where it counts. - -918 -00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:03,095 -To begin to understand -the theory behind this, - -919 -00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:06,867 -you must first realize that the human body -is not really very efficient. - -920 -00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:11,434 -When ingesting heavy foods, -only about 20% of the nutrients - -921 -00:59:11,512 --> 00:59:14,276 -are absorbed -by the alimentary passageway - -922 -00:59:14,348 --> 00:59:18,341 -while the other 80% finds itself -expelled in post-consumer byproducts. - -923 -00:59:18,418 --> 00:59:19,908 -Already 20 years ago, - -924 -00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:23,821 -NASA scientists began -to tap into this nutritional gold mine - -925 -00:59:23,891 --> 00:59:27,383 -by developing filters that could -transform their astronauts' waste - -926 -00:59:27,461 --> 00:59:31,591 -into healthy, hygienic, -and even delicious food once again. - -927 -00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:33,326 -With the use of this technology, - -928 -00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,393 -a single hamburger, for example, -can be eaten more than ten times, - -929 -00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:42,374 -providing a cumulative total -of three times the nutritional value - -930 -00:59:42,442 --> 00:59:44,603 -of the original fresh hamburger. - -931 -00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:48,478 -Now, again, a certain amount -of cultural openness is required - -932 -00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:51,382 -as we investigate solutions. - -933 -00:59:51,451 --> 00:59:53,476 -And I'd love to take any questions. - -934 -00:59:53,554 --> 00:59:54,612 -Yes, you've been-- - -935 -00:59:54,688 --> 00:59:56,519 -Coming from a Third World country, - -936 -00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,424 -I found most of what you said -pretty offensive. - -937 -01:00:00,494 --> 01:00:05,329 -It's as if everyone is equal, -but some are more equal than others. - -938 -01:00:05,399 --> 01:00:07,390 -And...who is to say - -939 -01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,664 -whether people in the Third World -want a burger? - -940 -01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,900 -You know, I, in my heart, -sometimes find it to agree - -941 -01:00:13,974 --> 01:00:17,637 -that cultures deserve -an equal consideration - -942 -01:00:17,711 --> 01:00:19,645 -perhaps to develop on their own terms, - -943 -01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:21,044 -but we're different. - -944 -01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,776 -We're culturally different. -We're rich, they're poor. - -945 -01:00:23,851 --> 01:00:26,319 -This is the most humane solution -we can come up with - -946 -01:00:26,386 --> 01:00:28,081 -that stays within the market logic. - -947 -01:00:28,155 --> 01:00:31,818 -If it's all right, I could answer -a portion of that question, as well. - -948 -01:00:31,892 --> 01:00:35,919 -And this answers the question -about desire for the product - -949 -01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:39,329 -because the biggest growth areas -are the developing world. - -950 -01:00:39,399 --> 01:00:43,392 -And so, in fact, -people do want the product. - -951 -01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:48,635 -We do have a kind of video presentation -about this that I came prepared to show. - -952 -01:00:48,709 --> 01:00:53,339 -It's not--the program isn't actually -completely ready yet. - -953 -01:00:55,549 --> 01:01:00,953 -So, as you can see here, -there's a consumer in the First World - -954 -01:01:01,021 --> 01:01:04,684 -entering McDonald's -and consuming a hamburger. - -955 -01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:11,023 -And, afterward, this is the process -we're all familiar with. - -956 -01:01:11,098 --> 01:01:13,225 -I don't need -to explain it to anyone. - -957 -01:01:15,269 --> 01:01:17,430 -But... - -958 -01:01:17,504 --> 01:01:20,029 -You see, it's rendered out -in this style - -959 -01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:24,476 -because studies have shown -that consumers are most responsive - -960 -01:01:24,544 --> 01:01:28,640 -to 3-D animation right now, -particularly in developing cultures. - -961 -01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:32,779 -So, as you can see, -it goes through a piping system, - -962 -01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,514 -and this isn't unusual. - -963 -01:01:34,588 --> 01:01:38,080 -We do this for oil. -We could do this for food, as well. - -964 -01:01:38,158 --> 01:01:42,288 -And, as you can see, -it goes back up through the plumbing... - -965 -01:01:42,362 --> 01:01:45,354 -and emerges in a McDonald's. - -966 -01:01:45,432 --> 01:01:49,095 -Now, the part of this video that isn't -completed yet is the filtering process. - -967 -01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:53,663 -There will be -a very well-rendered filtering... - -968 -01:02:04,518 --> 01:02:08,079 -As you can see--this might answer -somebody's question from before, - -969 -01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,715 -but at the McDonald's -in a developing country - -970 -01:02:10,791 --> 01:02:12,782 -and, in fact, -in this country as well, - -971 -01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:15,350 -you would be able to choose-- -the number one, number two, - -972 -01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,294 -number three, -number four, number five - -973 -01:02:17,364 --> 01:02:19,992 -would no longer refer -to combinations of food, - -974 -01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:23,628 -but rather just the number of times -the product had been recycled. - -975 -01:02:25,472 --> 01:02:29,067 -We're lucky to be able to partner with -the World Trade Organization which, - -976 -01:02:29,142 --> 01:02:31,042 -you know, has slightly different goals. - -977 -01:02:31,111 --> 01:02:34,103 -Of course, McDonald's goals -are to profit and grow, - -978 -01:02:34,181 --> 01:02:35,842 -and we hope that we can provide - -979 -01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:38,407 -a nutritious and tasty product -in the process. - -980 -01:02:38,485 --> 01:02:42,649 -Our goals are to help McDonald's profit -and grow, and all other corporations. - -981 -01:02:42,723 --> 01:02:45,556 -I think you guys-- -like, the WTO-- - -982 -01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:49,686 -is kind of lacking kind of, like, -a human element, you know? - -983 -01:02:49,763 --> 01:02:55,633 -Like...if you saw-- -have you ever seen starving people? - -984 -01:02:55,702 --> 01:02:57,533 -In pictures. Yes. - -985 -01:02:58,405 --> 01:03:01,465 -So, tell me, if you saw -somebody starving to death, - -986 -01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,702 -you would probably think a lot-- - -987 -01:03:03,777 --> 01:03:08,976 -like, that would kind of hit you -in a sensitive place to say, - -988 -01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:13,884 -"Oh, maybe markets and money -and this and that don't really mean as much, - -989 -01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:16,946 -and, actually, feeding people -means a little bit more." - -990 -01:03:17,024 --> 01:03:19,959 -Well, it is true that there's -a personal side of it that-- - -991 -01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,188 -I have to say, in the WTO - -992 -01:03:22,262 --> 01:03:25,925 -there are questions that we have -about this as human beings, - -993 -01:03:25,999 --> 01:03:28,797 -but we're not as subject-- - -994 -01:03:28,869 --> 01:03:30,860 -we have a kind -of firmer grasp on theory. - -995 -01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:33,770 -We are able, fortunately, - -996 -01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,674 -to simply direct world trade -in a much more theoretical way... - -997 -01:03:37,744 --> 01:03:41,407 -in collaboration with our colleagues -at the largest corporations. - -998 -01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:47,317 -So...you know. Yes, probably, -if I went to these countries, - -999 -01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:53,121 -I'd feel...l'd think about things -a little differently, perhaps. - -1000 -01:03:53,193 --> 01:03:56,685 -But, at the same time, I don't think -I would forget all my schooling. - -1001 -01:03:56,763 --> 01:03:59,596 -I don't think I would forget -all these theories and so on. - -1002 -01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:02,999 -So, perhaps one day I'll do that. - -1003 -01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:05,368 -This is a money-maker, correct? - -1004 -01:04:05,439 --> 01:04:09,307 -Yes. Well, it's a money-maker, -starvation-solver, sure. - -1005 -01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:12,812 -How much did McDonald's pay you to -come here and speak this garbage to us? - -1006 -01:04:12,879 --> 01:04:15,973 -Did I see a mouse with an ear -growing out of its back? - -1007 -01:04:16,049 --> 01:04:19,382 -How are you going to get around -the cultural and legal implications - -1008 -01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,354 -of cannibalism and basically -asking us to recycle shit? - -1009 -01:04:51,151 --> 01:04:55,178 -The reality is that we already -treat people in the Third World - -1010 -01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,723 -far worse than we treat -our domestic animals. - -1011 -01:04:57,791 --> 01:05:02,125 -That's--that's not saying it's right. -It's just saying that's the reality. - -1012 -01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,902 -Well, after thinking about it -for a little while, - -1013 -01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,306 -it seems the Plattsburgh lecture -just went great, - -1014 -01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:20,210 -and it went exactly the way we -originally expected these lectures to work, - -1015 -01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,545 -which is that, at a certain point, -it was like a light bulb's going off - -1016 -01:05:23,617 --> 01:05:26,017 -in the heads of the different people -in the audience, - -1017 -01:05:26,086 --> 01:05:29,681 -and they were realizing that it -was just too crazy to be real, - -1018 -01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:31,917 -and yet it was -sort of based in reality. - -1019 -01:05:31,992 --> 01:05:35,428 -So, you know, -they started throwing globes at us, - -1020 -01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:37,759 -they got angry, -they got frustrated. - -1021 -01:05:37,831 --> 01:05:40,095 -It worked exactly -like we thought it would. - -1022 -01:05:43,837 --> 01:05:45,270 -They don't ask if you believe in it. - -1023 -01:05:45,338 --> 01:05:48,432 -You don't get to vote -on World Trade Organization treaties. - -1024 -01:05:48,508 --> 01:05:51,102 -They don't let you vote on it. -They don't give you a say. - -1025 -01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:54,079 -They let you listen -to the one-sided propaganda. - -1026 -01:05:54,147 --> 01:05:57,639 -Name me a single columnist in America -who doesn't stand up and cheer - -1027 -01:05:57,717 --> 01:05:59,878 -under the banner -of so-called free trade. - -1028 -01:05:59,953 --> 01:06:01,511 -There's no public discussion, - -1029 -01:06:01,588 --> 01:06:05,422 -there's no dissent -in any of the political parties. - -1030 -01:06:05,492 --> 01:06:08,655 -There's no debate, -there's no discussion, there's no vote. - -1031 -01:06:08,728 --> 01:06:13,665 -In fact, the only nation -which has called for a vote is Brazil, - -1032 -01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:18,397 -which is saying that it -will not sign any more trade treaties - -1033 -01:06:18,471 --> 01:06:20,598 -without a plebiscite of its people. - -1034 -01:06:20,674 --> 01:06:24,337 -And the world trade barons -are losing their damn minds - -1035 -01:06:24,411 --> 01:06:29,246 -trying to prevent this type of democracy -from spreading planet-wide, - -1036 -01:06:29,316 --> 01:06:32,979 -'cause once people know what this stuff -is about and get to vote on it, - -1037 -01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,783 -no one's gonna vote themselves -into poverty. - -1038 -01:06:39,826 --> 01:06:42,488 -Here we go. -"Australia country code." - -1039 -01:06:45,332 --> 01:06:47,129 -Australia, 61. -It's 61. - -1040 -01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,360 -Sixty-one. - -1041 -01:06:53,473 --> 01:06:57,466 -Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat -from the WTO. - -1042 -01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,206 -- Hello. how are you? -- Good, thanks. How are you? - -1043 -01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,443 -- Where are you now? -- I'm in New York at the moment. - -1044 -01:07:03,516 --> 01:07:05,677 -- In New York, are you? -- Yes. - -1045 -01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:11,156 -Kinnithrung Sprat just called the person -who's coordinating Sprat's visit. - -1046 -01:07:11,224 --> 01:07:15,160 -I'm due in Hong Kong -the week after this, - -1047 -01:07:15,228 --> 01:07:17,219 -and that date is firm, - -1048 -01:07:17,297 --> 01:07:22,030 -but my travel to Australia -is as yet not firm. Yeah. - -1049 -01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,265 -She's actually, it turns out, -been e-mailing all these people - -1050 -01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:27,670 -and basically calling journalists - -1051 -01:07:27,741 --> 01:07:29,936 -and getting people -to attend his lecture. - -1052 -01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:34,174 -She fully expects him to attend because -she had spoken to Hildegard West, - -1053 -01:07:34,247 --> 01:07:37,375 -Sprat's assistant, -and Hildegard West had told her - -1054 -01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:40,510 -that everything was on -and Sprat was definitely going. - -1055 -01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:43,078 -So now we've just decided -we really have to go - -1056 -01:07:43,156 --> 01:07:46,592 -to honor this arrangement -with Australia. - -1057 -01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,652 -So it's back on now -after we totally thought it was off. - -1058 -01:07:49,729 --> 01:07:53,790 -And instead of giving this lecture that -we've been planning for, like, nine months, - -1059 -01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:57,803 -we're gonna, like, you know, -just disband the WTO. - -1060 -01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,503 -Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes -that actually are reasonable? - -1061 -01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:06,909 -They just don't look like dress shoes. -They look like wrestling shoes. - -1062 -01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,414 -There are no shoes here -for you. Never mind. - -1063 -01:08:09,482 --> 01:08:11,450 -No. Shoes are out. - -1064 -01:08:11,518 --> 01:08:12,507 -A tie. - -1065 -01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:14,915 -Around, then... - -1066 -01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:18,580 -Wait--did you try this? - -1067 -01:08:20,193 --> 01:08:21,455 -Yeah. - -1068 -01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:27,627 -I did a set of these with inkjet, -and they just don't look as real. - -1069 -01:08:27,701 --> 01:08:29,635 -Something about them. -They look... - -1070 -01:08:29,703 --> 01:08:31,637 -- These look perfect. -- ...kind of handmade. - -1071 -01:08:32,305 --> 01:08:34,136 -I printed off some letterhead for you. - -1072 -01:08:34,207 --> 01:08:35,868 -- Nice. -- You guys already saw that. - -1073 -01:08:35,942 --> 01:08:38,308 -- And I just kept it real simple... -- It's perfect. - -1074 -01:08:38,378 --> 01:08:40,778 -...so that it would show up well -on the fax. - -1075 -01:08:41,748 --> 01:08:44,046 -That is the most ridiculous photo. - -1076 -01:08:44,117 --> 01:08:48,349 -There's something really weird -about this maniacal public relations guy. - -1077 -01:08:48,421 --> 01:08:51,322 -- A little magnetic strip on the back. -- A logo of the WTO. - -1078 -01:08:51,391 --> 01:08:52,585 -Really beautiful. - -1079 -01:08:54,327 --> 01:08:57,490 -You know what I did? -I went to Google... - -1080 -01:08:57,564 --> 01:09:02,399 -and I went to Google image search -and I typed in, "I.D. card." - -1081 -01:09:02,469 --> 01:09:05,961 -And you wouldn't believe -the number of pictures of I.D. cards - -1082 -01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,870 -that show up on the Web. - -1083 -01:09:07,941 --> 01:09:10,808 -And I just went through -and took a little bit from each one. - -1084 -01:09:10,877 --> 01:09:14,040 -I said, "All right, this one's got -a little bar code at the bottom, - -1085 -01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:16,344 -and this one uses -the logo over here." - -1086 -01:09:16,416 --> 01:09:18,407 -That is so nice. - -1087 -01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:32,190 -- I know. -- Wow. Airplane. - -1088 -01:09:34,534 --> 01:09:36,229 -Where's the rental car area? - -1089 -01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,313 -No, I don't know. -I'm just really nervous - -1090 -01:09:58,391 --> 01:10:01,883 -'cause this feels different from all -the other things that we've done. - -1091 -01:10:01,961 --> 01:10:08,696 -It's not like the same kind of play, -fun, crazy, weird, impossible stuff. - -1092 -01:10:08,768 --> 01:10:10,258 -This is sincere, you know. - -1093 -01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,203 -It's about replacing the WTO -with something better. - -1094 -01:10:13,273 --> 01:10:16,333 -- Do you think that satire is more fun? -- Yeah, definitely. - -1095 -01:10:16,409 --> 01:10:19,640 -I got this feeling that it's-- -for some reason-- - -1096 -01:10:19,712 --> 01:10:22,203 -maybe it's less fun to be sincere. - -1097 -01:10:22,282 --> 01:10:24,273 -But it is less fun, isn't it? - -1098 -01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,181 -In a way, yeah. - -1099 -01:10:26,252 --> 01:10:31,849 -Maybe it's more fun -to be satirical than serious. - -1100 -01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:33,085 -Yeah. - -1101 -01:10:37,697 --> 01:10:39,790 -It's about 9:00 in the morning, - -1102 -01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,426 -and this is the big day -for Kinnithrung Sprat - -1103 -01:10:42,502 --> 01:10:44,402 -to go talk to CPA Australia - -1104 -01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,632 -and close down the WTO. - -1105 -01:10:46,706 --> 01:10:51,905 -It's kind of an exciting day for us -'cause we finally get to shut it down. - -1106 -01:11:06,226 --> 01:11:10,720 -I'm writing the local phone number -for this cell phone on the business cards. - -1107 -01:11:10,797 --> 01:11:13,732 -So if we give these to journalists -or anybody else - -1108 -01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,533 -who wants to contact Mr. Sprat--they'll be -able to do it in the next couple days. - -1109 -01:11:20,974 --> 01:11:23,135 -We have to leave -in ten minutes, though. - -1110 -01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:24,642 -I know. - -1111 -01:11:24,711 --> 01:11:27,544 -I'm just gonna do -as little as possible. - -1112 -01:11:30,683 --> 01:11:34,175 -Okay, let's just go by there. -We have some time yet. - -1113 -01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:36,586 -Let's just keep walking. -Just walk straight. - -1114 -01:11:36,723 --> 01:11:40,716 -Don't look. -Don't turn left. Don't... - -1115 -01:11:40,793 --> 01:11:43,819 -Hey, no. Don't. -Don't do that. - -1116 -01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:46,825 -Answer it. - -1117 -01:11:47,767 --> 01:11:49,598 -Hello, Michael Bonanno here. - -1118 -01:11:52,505 --> 01:11:54,063 -Hi, Jane. How are you? - -1119 -01:11:55,675 --> 01:11:59,111 -All right, then. I guess -we'll see you in just a few minutes. - -1120 -01:11:59,178 --> 01:12:01,510 -And we just come up -to level three, then? - -1121 -01:12:01,581 --> 01:12:04,846 -Great. Thank you very much. -All right. Bye-bye. - -1122 -01:12:04,918 --> 01:12:06,010 -Run! - -1123 -01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,687 -Oh, wait. Shit! -This is the building! - -1124 -01:12:13,192 --> 01:12:14,887 -- Thank you for coming. -- Thank you for having us. - -1125 -01:12:14,961 --> 01:12:18,692 -Sorry for the confusion -and problems and everything else. - -1126 -01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,926 -It's to be expected -these days, I think. - -1127 -01:12:21,901 --> 01:12:26,167 -No. Thanks for going out of your way -to arrange this. This is really terrific. - -1128 -01:12:31,811 --> 01:12:34,336 -Thank you all for coming. -I'd like to... - -1129 -01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:38,983 -I'd like to thank the organizers -for going out of their way - -1130 -01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:43,853 -to create this panel, -this luncheon, - -1131 -01:12:43,923 --> 01:12:48,019 -in the face of some odds--the conference -having been canceled, of course. - -1132 -01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:50,756 -And I'd especially like to begin - -1133 -01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,664 -by apologizing for a rather sudden -change in the program, - -1134 -01:12:54,734 --> 01:13:01,003 -consequent upon a rather dramatic -development in Geneva yesterday. - -1135 -01:13:01,074 --> 01:13:04,908 -I originally intended to transmit today -an upbeat report - -1136 -01:13:04,978 --> 01:13:09,915 -on some new technologies that affect -agribusiness in a global sense. - -1137 -01:13:09,983 --> 01:13:14,920 -Instead, I find myself the messenger -of some rather disturbing news. - -1138 -01:13:14,988 --> 01:13:17,718 -The WTO will be issuing -a public statement - -1139 -01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:19,985 -in detail by the end of the week. - -1140 -01:13:20,059 --> 01:13:22,050 -But the die has been cast. - -1141 -01:13:22,128 --> 01:13:24,289 -As of September 2002, - -1142 -01:13:24,364 --> 01:13:26,958 -having seen the effects of policies - -1143 -01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:30,560 -whose only intent was to bring -greater prosperity and peace, - -1144 -01:13:30,637 --> 01:13:35,438 -the World Trade Organization, -in its present form, will cease to exist. - -1145 -01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,866 -Over the next two years, - -1146 -01:13:37,944 --> 01:13:43,007 -we at the WTO will endeavor to re-found -our organization along different lines, - -1147 -01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:47,143 -based in a different understanding -of the purposes of world trade. - -1148 -01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,178 -The new organization will have -as its foundation and basis - -1149 -01:13:51,257 --> 01:13:55,091 -the United Nations' -Universal Declaration of Human Rights, - -1150 -01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:59,564 -upon which we feel -we can make a good foundation - -1151 -01:13:59,632 --> 01:14:02,294 -to ensuring that the organization -will have human - -1152 -01:14:02,368 --> 01:14:05,303 -rather than business interests -as its bottom line. - -1153 -01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,202 -My reaction was one of total surprise. - -1154 -01:14:07,273 --> 01:14:09,104 -We were expecting -a speech more based - -1155 -01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:13,111 -on what the World Trade Organization -does in its relation to Australian trade. - -1156 -01:14:13,179 --> 01:14:16,171 -It sort of blew me out of the water -when the announcement was made - -1157 -01:14:16,249 --> 01:14:19,980 -that the World Trade Organization -is significantly reinventing itself - -1158 -01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:25,787 -to focus on issues relating to people -as opposed to economics-- - -1159 -01:14:25,858 --> 01:14:28,691 -something that hopefully could be -of significant benefit - -1160 -01:14:28,761 --> 01:14:33,095 -to the poor and needy throughout -the world in all developing countries. - -1161 -01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:37,330 -The U.N. estimates that poor countries-- -the poorest countries in the world-- - -1162 -01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:43,069 -lose approximately $2 billion a day -because of unjust trade rules, - -1163 -01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:46,407 -many of them instituted -by our own organization. - -1164 -01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,743 -And this is 14 times the amount - -1165 -01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:51,545 -that they receive in aid -from developed countries. - -1166 -01:14:52,552 --> 01:14:57,216 -I thought the speech itself was compelling -in terms of its information. - -1167 -01:14:57,290 --> 01:15:02,887 -I was astounded to find that they're -actually gonna dismantle the WTO. - -1168 -01:15:02,962 --> 01:15:07,695 -I was also amazed to see that there was -a mission that perhaps had failed. - -1169 -01:15:07,767 --> 01:15:11,100 -It's gonna have a huge effect -on international business - -1170 -01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:14,333 -and particularly for us -as an organization, I feel. - -1171 -01:15:14,407 --> 01:15:18,138 -The hardest thing, I find, -will be the balance that, let's say, - -1172 -01:15:18,211 --> 01:15:20,736 -the U.S., E.U., and Japan-- - -1173 -01:15:20,813 --> 01:15:24,544 -in terms of being major components -of the world economy-- - -1174 -01:15:24,617 --> 01:15:28,451 -the effect--will they really change -in terms of this new organization, - -1175 -01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,183 -and will there actually -be genuine change - -1176 -01:15:31,257 --> 01:15:34,590 -and perhaps a benefit -to the world's poorest countries? - -1177 -01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,754 -I must admit I'm a cynic -with regards to that occurring. - -1178 -01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,095 -Liberalization-- -the process of liberalization - -1179 -01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,226 -often enables -the knowledge of the poor - -1180 -01:15:43,302 --> 01:15:47,170 -to be converted into the property -of global corporations. - -1181 -01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,607 -Specific statistics are rather shocking. - -1182 -01:15:50,676 --> 01:15:59,277 -Out of 26,000 patents -applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001, - -1183 -01:15:59,352 --> 01:16:03,186 -only 31 were from residents of Africa. - -1184 -01:16:03,256 --> 01:16:06,089 -The rest were from residents -of first world countries. - -1185 -01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,220 -31 out of 26,000 patent applications. - -1186 -01:16:10,296 --> 01:16:11,957 -It wasn't what I was expecting. - -1187 -01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,022 -I was expecting something -on agribusiness - -1188 -01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,591 -and what -the World Trade Organization does. - -1189 -01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:20,264 -But I'd have to say -I believe it's fairly positive - -1190 -01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:24,070 -because I think that, -as the gentleman said, - -1191 -01:16:24,143 --> 01:16:27,510 -the strong are getting stronger, -and the weak are getting weaker. - -1192 -01:16:27,580 --> 01:16:29,411 -And you can't let that keep on going. - -1193 -01:16:29,482 --> 01:16:31,313 -Even we notice it here in Australia - -1194 -01:16:31,384 --> 01:16:34,979 -with some of the trade arrangements -that are made. - -1195 -01:16:35,054 --> 01:16:37,318 -If you're powerful, -you can get whatever you like, - -1196 -01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:39,221 -and if you're not, you can't. - -1197 -01:16:39,292 --> 01:16:42,784 -The world, with the population we've got, -can't keep going that way. - -1198 -01:16:42,862 --> 01:16:44,454 -So I think it was fairly positive, - -1199 -01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,192 -and I think it's a very brave decision -by an organization - -1200 -01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,758 -to admit that they've been going down -the wrong track and dissolve themselves - -1201 -01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:54,637 -and start to look for something different. -And I think it's fantastic. - -1202 -01:16:54,707 --> 01:16:57,039 -Disparity is growing -between rich and poor. - -1203 -01:16:57,109 --> 01:16:59,600 -The richest fifth have 80% -of the world's income, - -1204 -01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,011 -and the poorest fifth have 1%. - -1205 -01:17:02,081 --> 01:17:04,140 -This gap--we all know this figure, - -1206 -01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:09,814 -but we don't always remember that -this gap has actually doubled since 1960. - -1207 -01:17:09,889 --> 01:17:13,222 -More and more thinkers -are therefore noting - -1208 -01:17:13,292 --> 01:17:16,784 -that there is no evidence -that liberalization favors growth - -1209 -01:17:16,863 --> 01:17:18,592 -or benefits the poor. - -1210 -01:17:18,664 --> 01:17:21,326 -I think we're all generally aware -of increases in poverty - -1211 -01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,494 -and low living standards and issues -faced by developing countries. - -1212 -01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:28,734 -And what Mr. Sprat had to say today -really is a terrific sign of hope - -1213 -01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:31,834 -for what I think we all aspire to, - -1214 -01:17:31,911 --> 01:17:35,847 -and that's a global economy -that benefits all people. - -1215 -01:17:44,056 --> 01:17:47,958 -Now, after protected, protracted, -and detailed review - -1216 -01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:51,793 -of current trade policy, -the World Trade Organization has decided - -1217 -01:17:51,864 --> 01:17:54,856 -to affect a cessation of all operations - -1218 -01:17:54,934 --> 01:17:57,425 -to be accomplished -over the next four months - -1219 -01:17:57,503 --> 01:18:00,939 -culminating by the end of September... - -1220 -01:18:01,007 --> 01:18:03,840 -Well, I think that the Yes Men - -1221 -01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:05,639 -have kind of played out their course - -1222 -01:18:05,711 --> 01:18:08,874 -in relation to the World Trade -Organization for the moment. - -1223 -01:18:08,948 --> 01:18:12,145 -You never know when we -might get another invitation. - -1224 -01:18:12,218 --> 01:18:17,520 -We were lucky to be able to provide a sort -of sense of closure by ending the WTO. - -1225 -01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,582 -We also hope that other people -will just start doing the same things - -1226 -01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:22,491 -in all kinds of different contexts-- - -1227 -01:18:22,561 --> 01:18:28,022 -impersonating whoever holds power -that needs to be criticized. - -1228 -01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,160 -So if the opportunity arises, -we're just gonna keep doing it. - -1229 -01:18:31,237 --> 01:18:34,638 -We're gonna go and... -be the Yes Men again, - -1230 -01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,642 -or I should say, -be the WTO again in another event. - -1231 -01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,543 -The future's bright for the Yes Men. - -1232 -01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,549 -The future of the world -is a different story. - -1233 -01:19:19,185 --> 01:19:22,586 -No, this isn't the way -he usually dresses. - -1234 -01:19:22,655 --> 01:19:26,182 -He works for the World Trade -Organization--you know, the WTO. - -1235 -01:19:26,258 --> 01:19:29,421 -He works-- -see, we're at a conference, - -1236 -01:19:29,495 --> 01:19:33,261 -and he's demonstrating -a new kind of technology. - -1237 -01:19:33,332 --> 01:19:38,292 -This is--well, it's a device -to measure employee working - -1238 -01:19:38,371 --> 01:19:40,498 -in less developed countries. - -1239 -01:19:40,573 --> 01:19:44,304 -There's a thing here where... - -1240 -01:19:44,377 --> 01:19:48,279 -on this screen I can see... - -1241 -01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:51,316 -See, he watches people working there. - -1242 -01:19:51,384 --> 01:19:54,444 -And they have little devices -that give them shocks. - -1243 -01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,511 -It's just regular fabric. - -1244 -01:19:56,589 --> 01:19:59,922 -In the future, -it'll be sensitive-smart fabric. - -1245 -01:19:59,992 --> 01:20:01,584 -It's a little hot, but... - -1246 -01:20:02,862 --> 01:20:04,193 -That one looks better. - +vorstellen. + +512 +00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,107 +One--maintaining rapport +with distant workforce, + +513 +00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,014 +and two--maintaining +healthful amounts of leisure. + +514 +00:33:59,084 --> 00:34:03,282 +This solution, appropriately enough, +is based in textiles. + +515 +00:34:05,824 --> 00:34:09,191 +But how did workers +ever get to be a problem? + +516 +00:34:10,362 --> 00:34:12,227 +Before unveiling our solution, + +517 +00:34:12,297 --> 00:34:17,291 +I'd like to talk a bit about the history +of the worker management problem. + +518 +00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:21,032 +We all know about the American +Civil War--at least in the U.S. + +519 +00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:25,270 +It was the bloodiest, least-profitable war +in the history of our country. + +520 +00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:27,709 +A war in which unbelievably +huge amounts of money + +521 +00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:30,942 +went right down the drain-- +and all for textiles. + +522 +00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:35,952 +By the 1860s, the South +was utterly flush with cash. + +523 +00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,511 +It had recently benefited +from the cotton gin-- + +524 +00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:41,058 +an invention that took +the seeds out of cotton + +525 +00:34:41,126 --> 00:34:44,095 +and the South +out of its pre-industrial past. + +526 +00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,823 +Hundreds of thousands of workers + +527 +00:34:45,897 --> 00:34:48,331 +previously unemployed +in their countries of origin + +528 +00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,391 +were given useful jobs in textiles. + +529 +00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,162 +Into this rosy picture of freedom +and boom stepped--you guessed it-- + +530 +00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,231 +the North. + +531 +00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:01,301 +Now, some Civil War apologists have said +that the Civil War, for all its faults, + +532 +00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:03,609 +at least had the effect of outlawing + +533 +00:35:03,681 --> 00:35:06,616 +an involuntarily imported +workforce model of work. + +534 +00:35:06,684 --> 00:35:09,278 +Now, this model is, of course, +a terrible thing. + +535 +00:35:09,354 --> 00:35:11,345 +I myself am an abolitionist. + +536 +00:35:11,423 --> 00:35:15,757 +But, in fact, there is no doubt +that, left to their own devices, + +537 +00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:20,423 +markets would've eventually replaced +slavery with cleaner sources of labor. + +538 +00:35:21,065 --> 00:35:23,363 +To prove my point, +please join me + +539 +00:35:23,435 --> 00:35:26,768 +on what Albert Einstein used to call +a thought experiment. + +540 +00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:32,006 +Suppose involuntarily imported labor +had never been outlawed. + +541 +00:35:32,076 --> 00:35:35,671 +That slaves still existed, +and that it were easy to own one. + +542 +00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:39,581 +What do you think it would cost today +to profitably maintain a slave, + +543 +00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:41,642 +say, here in Tampere? + +544 +00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,123 +Let's see...a finished clothing set +costs $50 at the very least. + +545 +00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,923 +Two meals from McDonald's +cost about $10.00. + +546 +00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:54,988 +The cheapest small room +probably runs for about $250 a month. + +547 +00:35:55,066 --> 00:35:58,001 +To function well, you have to pay +for your slave's health care. + +548 +00:35:58,069 --> 00:36:02,130 +If its country of origin was polluted, +for example, that might run expensively. + +549 +00:36:02,207 --> 00:36:05,199 +And, of course, what with +child labor laws here in Finland, + +550 +00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,109 +much of the youth market +is simply not available. + +551 +00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:13,150 +Now leave the same slave +back at home. Let's say Gabon. + +552 +00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:17,086 +In Gabon, $10 pays +for two weeks of food. + +553 +00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:22,218 +$250 pays for two years +of housing, not a month, at best. + +554 +00:36:22,293 --> 00:36:25,956 +$50 pays for a lifetime +of budget clothing. + +555 +00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,964 +And health care is, +of course, cheaper. + +556 +00:36:28,032 --> 00:36:32,867 +On top of it all...youth can be +gainfully employed without restriction. + +557 +00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,428 +The biggest benefit +of the remote labor system, though, + +558 +00:36:35,507 --> 00:36:37,668 +is to the slave him or herself, + +559 +00:36:37,742 --> 00:36:42,008 +because in Gabon there is no need +for the slave not to be free. + +560 +00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,479 +This is primarily because + +561 +00:36:43,548 --> 00:36:46,483 +there are no one-time +slave transport costs to recoup + +562 +00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,542 +and so the potential losses +from fleeing + +563 +00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,919 +are limited to the slave's +rudimentary training. + +564 +00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:54,049 +Since the slave can be free, + +565 +00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,617 +he or she suddenly becomes +a worker rather than a slave. + +566 +00:36:57,695 --> 00:37:01,290 +Also terrific for morale +is that slaves--workers-- + +567 +00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:03,766 +have the luxury of remaining +in their native habitat + +568 +00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:06,702 +and don't have to relocate to places +where they would be subject + +569 +00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:10,263 +to such unpleasantries +as homesickness and racism. + +570 +00:37:11,009 --> 00:37:14,172 +I think it's clear +from our little thought experiment + +571 +00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:17,737 +that if the North and South +had simply let the market sort it out + +572 +00:37:17,815 --> 00:37:19,612 +without protectionist tariffs, + +573 +00:37:19,684 --> 00:37:23,745 +they would've quickly given up slavery +for something more efficient anyhow. + +574 +00:37:23,821 --> 00:37:25,152 +By forcing the issue, + +575 +00:37:25,223 --> 00:37:29,159 +the North not only committed a terrible +injustice against the freedom of the South, + +576 +00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,161 +but also deprived slavery + +577 +00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:34,426 +of its natural development +into remote labor. + +578 +00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:38,324 +Had the leaders +of the 1860s United States + +579 +00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:40,963 +understood what our leaders +understand today, + +580 +00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,303 +the Civil War +would never have happened. + +581 +00:37:44,142 --> 00:37:47,009 +In a world where the headquarters +of a company might be in New York, + +582 +00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,342 +Hong Kong, or Espoo, Finland, + +583 +00:37:49,414 --> 00:37:53,578 +and the workers are in Gabon, +Rangoon, or Estonia, + +584 +00:37:53,651 --> 00:37:56,984 +how does a manager maintain +proper rapport with the workers, + +585 +00:37:57,055 --> 00:37:59,216 +and how does he or she +ensure from a distance + +586 +00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:02,350 +that workers perform their work +in an ethical fashion? + +587 +00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:05,790 +I'm about to show you +an actual prototype + +588 +00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:10,323 +of the WTO's solution to two major +management problems of today. + +589 +00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,234 +Now, we all know that not even +the best workplace design + +590 +00:38:13,304 --> 00:38:16,967 +can help even the most +astute manager keep track of workers. + +591 +00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:22,308 +What you need is a solution that enables +complete rapport with workers-- + +592 +00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,871 +especially when they're +located far away. + +593 +00:38:26,084 --> 00:38:28,245 +Mike, would you help me a moment? + +594 +00:38:50,775 --> 00:38:52,106 +Thank you. + +595 +00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,906 +This is much better. +Much more comfortable. + +596 +00:38:56,414 --> 00:39:00,578 +This is the WTO's answer to two +of the major management problems, + +597 +00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:03,712 +and we're calling it +the Management Leisure Suit. + +598 +00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,120 +It's--the two problems again-- + +599 +00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:09,023 +how to maintain close rapport +with distant workers + +600 +00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:13,928 +und wie man die Gemütlichkeit bewahrt +und die entspannenden Aktivitäten verschönert. + +601 +00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,831 +Wie funktioniert +der Management-Entspannungs-Anzug? + +602 +00:39:16,901 --> 00:39:20,064 +Ich versichere ihnen, +dass er aussergewöhnlich bequem ist. + +603 +00:39:20,138 --> 00:39:23,904 +Nun ja, lassen sie mich seine wichtigsten +Austattungsmerkmale erläutern. + +604 +00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,625 +Dies ... + +605 +00:39:50,702 --> 00:39:54,103 +Dies ist das A.V.A.-- + +606 +00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:58,040 +das Mitarbeiter-Visualisierungs-Anhängsel. + +607 +00:39:58,109 --> 00:40:01,476 +Es ist ein sofort einsetzbares +Hüft-montiertes Gerät + +608 +00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:04,606 +komplett freihändig steuerbar ... + +609 +00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:09,016 +das dem Manager gestattet, +seine Mitarbeiter genau hier zu beobachten. + +610 +00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:13,490 +Informationen über den genauen Umfang +und die Qualität der körperlichen Arbeit + +611 +00:40:13,558 --> 00:40:15,651 +werden übertragen +und sind nicht nur einfach sichtbar, + +612 +00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:21,359 +sondern werden durch elektrische Leitungen +direkt in den Manager hineingeschickt. + +613 +00:40:21,432 --> 00:40:25,766 +Die Arbeiter sind dafür mit +einem passenden Sende-Chip ausgestattet + +614 +00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:29,637 +die direkt in ihre Schulter +implantiert wurden. + +615 +00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:32,699 +Die andere - und ebenso nützliche - Errungenschaft +des Management-Entspannungs-Anzugs (MEA) + +616 +00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,438 +hat etwas mit der Entspannung zu tun. + +617 +00:40:34,512 --> 00:40:38,312 +In den USA hat sich die Entspannung +(ein Synonym für Freiheit) + +618 +00:40:38,382 --> 00:40:42,284 +seit den 70er Jahren +kontinuierlich verringert. + +619 +00:40:42,353 --> 00:40:45,948 +Der Management-Entspannungs-Anzug +gestattet dem Manager diesen Trend umzukehren + +620 +00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,321 +indem er seine Arbeit überall machen kann + +621 +00:40:48,392 --> 00:40:51,486 +und trotzdem den direkten Kontakt +zu seinen Mitarbeitern bewahrt, + +622 +00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:55,225 +und körperlich wahrnimmt was seine +Arbeitskräfte tun. + +623 +00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:58,234 +Dies wird durch Elektroden ermöglicht, +die direkt in den Manager implantiert sind. + +624 +00:40:58,302 --> 00:41:01,135 +TODO Again, the manager +sees the employees, + +625 +00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:03,366 +but also feels what they're feeling + +626 +00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,775 +and can select where to focus +in the workplace environment. + +627 +00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,011 +So, in conclusion, + +628 +00:41:11,082 --> 00:41:14,745 +I'd like to ask, +is this a science-fiction scenario? + +629 +00:41:20,424 --> 00:41:21,914 +The answer is no. + +630 +00:41:22,927 --> 00:41:25,452 +Everything we've seen here, +everything we've been talking about + +631 +00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:27,020 +is entirely possible today. + +632 +00:41:27,832 --> 00:41:31,233 +We can always look forward +on the highways of progress + +633 +00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:33,361 +towards ever-new horizons + +634 +00:41:33,437 --> 00:41:37,703 +with cooperation and mutual delight +in the fruits of prosperity. + +635 +00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:40,835 +I'm very excited to be here. +Thank you very much. + +636 +00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,098 +Something we're trying +to do more and more as... + +637 +00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:32,620 +I wasn't depressed +by people not reacting, + +638 +00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,098 +I wasn't depressed by people just +swallowing it and not asking questions + +639 +00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:40,661 +because I thought, "Well, that shows +that you need some sort of control," + +640 +00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:44,071 +because the WTO--me-- +can come in + +641 +00:42:44,141 --> 00:42:48,407 +and say these amazingly hideous things +to this group of the most educated people, + +642 +00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:52,210 +like the top .1% education-wise people +in the entire world + +643 +00:42:52,283 --> 00:42:54,148 +in a developed country +like Finland-- + +644 +00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,686 +these people all have PhDs +or advanced degrees-- + +645 +00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,745 +and you can say +the most atrocious things + +646 +00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:02,315 +and nobody will really react +and nobody will really care. + +647 +00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:06,921 +It's like, you know, +what can't corporations get away with? + +648 +00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,641 +So, where are we? + +649 +00:43:20,711 --> 00:43:23,305 +Well, we're arriving +in Helsinki right now. + +650 +00:43:24,482 --> 00:43:26,416 +We left the conference this morning. + +651 +00:43:26,484 --> 00:43:31,478 +It was just--it had driven us +completely mad after dinner last night. + +652 +00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:33,955 +I think we had our fill with dinner. + +653 +00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,084 +I had to actually leave +a little bit early. + +654 +00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,494 +I went over to the table where Unruh-- + +655 +00:43:40,564 --> 00:43:44,694 +Hank Hardy had to sit +with the big men and eat, + +656 +00:43:44,769 --> 00:43:47,101 +and I told him +that we needed to leave + +657 +00:43:47,171 --> 00:43:51,835 +because we had a telephone meeting +with Mobutu Oblongatu immediately. + +658 +00:43:53,878 --> 00:43:55,209 +- Great. +- Hi. + +659 +00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:56,610 +Sorry to butt in a minute, + +660 +00:43:56,681 --> 00:43:59,013 +but we're supposed to meet +Manduka Djubango... + +661 +00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:00,812 +- Oh, God. +- ...at 10:00. + +662 +00:44:00,885 --> 00:44:02,716 +And then we both started laughing, + +663 +00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:05,984 +which was really not convenient +for the context. + +664 +00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:10,016 +So we left, and we just decided +that, basically, + +665 +00:44:10,094 --> 00:44:14,497 +we couldn't figure out what else +we could possibly do at this conference, + +666 +00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:18,228 +so we just thought, "Well, +let's go to Helsinki instead." + +667 +00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:20,665 +So, this is the paper. + +668 +00:44:20,738 --> 00:44:23,070 +On the front page-- +I just discovered it-- + +669 +00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,473 +it says there's a seminar +at the university + +670 +00:44:26,544 --> 00:44:30,878 +and that somebody talked +about controlling remote workers + +671 +00:44:30,948 --> 00:44:34,111 +with electrical impulsions. + +672 +00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:37,018 +And then you turn to the page, and... + +673 +00:44:38,356 --> 00:44:39,846 +...and that's what you get. + +674 +00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:45,794 +And this right here represents +the World Trade Organization. + +675 +00:44:45,863 --> 00:44:50,891 +This... is +the World Trade Organization. + +676 +00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:59,600 +I went down to these +Mexican border towns in the mid '80s. + +677 +00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,508 +They were called "Maquilladoras" + +678 +00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:04,173 +when they had +the first trade agreements + +679 +00:45:04,248 --> 00:45:06,944 +between Mexico and the United States. + +680 +00:45:07,018 --> 00:45:10,283 +And everyone was saying, "This is +gonna raise Mexico out of poverty," + +681 +00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:12,845 +and things were gonna be so great, +and within ten years, + +682 +00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,517 +they'd all be driving +shiny new cars in Mexico. + +683 +00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:18,528 +And I went down there and saw this-- + +684 +00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,430 +the incredible poverty +in these Mexican border towns. + +685 +00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,402 +Fifteen years later, I went back. +Not a damn thing had changed. + +686 +00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:29,928 +Here's all these workers working +for all these American corporations, + +687 +00:45:30,007 --> 00:45:32,532 +and you just go across the street + +688 +00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:35,704 +and you found people +living in the same horrid conditions, + +689 +00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:37,771 +the same poverty existing. + +690 +00:45:37,848 --> 00:45:41,579 +And you had to ask, +"Well, who's benefiting from this?" + +691 +00:45:41,652 --> 00:45:44,143 +Who benefited were +these American corporations. + +692 +00:45:44,221 --> 00:45:46,712 +During the 1990s, +they became even more wealthy, + +693 +00:45:46,791 --> 00:45:49,954 +they posted record profits-- +larger record profits, + +694 +00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,757 +and the people in Mexico +just continued to suffer. + +695 +00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:55,390 +It was all a big scam. + +696 +00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,949 +Is this the one? + +697 +00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:17,419 +No. You got the wrong one. + +698 +00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:18,648 +Shit. + +699 +00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:21,681 +"Will WTO stand up?" + +700 +00:46:21,759 --> 00:46:24,751 +Oh, my God. It's got pictures. +They're nice, too. + +701 +00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:26,820 +Yeah, they actually look okay +at that size. + +702 +00:46:26,897 --> 00:46:30,560 +"Bichlbaum isn't... +but he plays one on TV." + +703 +00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:33,034 +This is basically the core +of what we do. + +704 +00:46:33,104 --> 00:46:36,801 +All of these newspapers +and magazines have articles + +705 +00:46:36,874 --> 00:46:38,603 +on the Yes Men, + +706 +00:46:38,676 --> 00:46:42,168 +and this is why +we are doing these things. + +707 +00:46:42,246 --> 00:46:44,237 +This is why we go +and do these conferences. + +708 +00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:46,647 +It's not for the 200 people +or the hundred people + +709 +00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,878 +that might see us give the lecture. + +710 +00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:50,784 +Although we'd like them to come away + +711 +00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:53,517 +with an interesting experience +from the lecture, + +712 +00:46:53,591 --> 00:46:57,994 +the reason we do it is so that people +who read Bizarre magazine + +713 +00:46:58,062 --> 00:47:00,860 +or the New York Times +or Fortune or Harper's + +714 +00:47:00,931 --> 00:47:03,593 +can read about it +in the mainstream press. + +715 +00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:06,192 +This is how millions of people +could read about it + +716 +00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:11,572 +and potentially get turned on +to some of the ideas of anti-globalization. + +717 +00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:14,805 +One of the problems +with the Fortune thing + +718 +00:47:14,879 --> 00:47:18,610 +is that it's in this-- +well, Fortune-- + +719 +00:47:18,682 --> 00:47:22,846 +it's read by business people +and accountants and that kind of thing. + +720 +00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,758 +And that's exactly who we're supposed +to be talking to in Australia in May. + +721 +00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:31,658 +It's an accounting conference. + +722 +00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:34,721 +It's a little... +a little worrisome. + +723 +00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,743 +You need a new shirt? +One that's not wrinkled? + +724 +00:47:47,811 --> 00:47:48,800 +Yeah. + +725 +00:47:48,879 --> 00:47:50,710 +Will that be good with your thing? + +726 +00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:53,213 +Do you think it'll work +with your suit? + +727 +00:47:53,284 --> 00:47:56,776 +This one's extra large. Yeah, they'll all +work with my suit. It's terrible. + +728 +00:47:56,854 --> 00:47:59,186 +- It's striped, though. Is that okay? +- Yeah. + +729 +00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:02,489 +- Sure it's okay. +- Why don't you go get a shirt, then? + +730 +00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,893 +I'll just get this. Wait. +Oh, it's not very much cotton. + +731 +00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,624 +- How much is it? +- I hate that. + +732 +00:48:07,698 --> 00:48:10,360 +- 35%? +- It's 35%. It's like... + +733 +00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:11,526 +No, it's fine for-- + +734 +00:48:11,602 --> 00:48:13,536 +It doesn't wrinkle much-- +that's nice about that. + +735 +00:48:13,604 --> 00:48:16,164 +I'll just wear it. All right. + +736 +00:48:22,846 --> 00:48:25,508 +The thing is, there's a question +of whether he's-- + +737 +00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:28,313 +at what point he recognizes you +doesn't really matter. + +738 +00:48:28,385 --> 00:48:31,877 +What we want is that moment +when he does recognize you. + +739 +00:48:31,956 --> 00:48:34,948 +So if he recognizes you here +and sees that you're in the room, + +740 +00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:38,290 +then he'll be looking back and forth +at you, at the screen. + +741 +00:48:38,362 --> 00:48:41,695 +At that point, if he recognizes you, +we better say something. + +742 +00:48:45,536 --> 00:48:47,868 +No, I think it's down here, +but I don't know. + +743 +00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:51,801 +It must be right down Morris. + +744 +00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,035 +Remember we walked... + +745 +00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,442 +It's on the end of this line here. + +746 +00:49:11,228 --> 00:49:12,286 +Thanks. + +747 +00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:18,260 +- Andy, hi. How're you doing? +- Barry. Nice to meet you. + +748 +00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:20,963 +- Good to meet you. +- Good. Great. + +749 +00:49:21,038 --> 00:49:22,198 +We're in London, + +750 +00:49:22,273 --> 00:49:26,266 +and we were just at the offices +of the World Development Movement + +751 +00:49:26,343 --> 00:49:27,833 +where we talked to Barry Coates, + +752 +00:49:27,911 --> 00:49:30,072 +who's the director +of the World Development Movement + +753 +00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,140 +and who showed up +on CNBC MarketWrap Europe + +754 +00:49:34,218 --> 00:49:37,881 +debating our friend here-- +Granwyth Hulatberi-- + +755 +00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:42,289 +about the prospects of WTO +and globalization. + +756 +00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:46,022 +We kind of expected him maybe to have +a glimmer of recognition immediately, + +757 +00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,358 +and he didn't--okay. + +758 +00:49:47,431 --> 00:49:50,025 +Then we put on the tape and... + +759 +00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,264 +he laughed +at how horribly stupid it was, + +760 +00:49:54,338 --> 00:49:55,999 +but he never realized + +761 +00:49:56,073 --> 00:49:59,406 +that this wasn't really +a representative of the WTO. + +762 +00:49:59,476 --> 00:50:02,070 +Even when he saw me +like this right next to him, + +763 +00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:05,172 +and then we switched seats +and he still didn't notice. + +764 +00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,707 +Then I had to put my face +next to the thing and go... + +765 +00:50:08,786 --> 00:50:10,913 +Yeah, let's just pause it here. + +766 +00:50:10,988 --> 00:50:13,149 +- Okay. Hit stop. +- Is there a pause? + +767 +00:50:13,223 --> 00:50:15,054 +- Stop button. +- There's no pause. + +768 +00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:18,754 +I don't know what I could've said +after that clip. + +769 +00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:20,558 +I mean...really... + +770 +00:50:21,965 --> 00:50:26,129 +"Where did they get this guy from?" +might've been my first comment. + +771 +00:50:26,203 --> 00:50:28,865 +So did you ever figure out +where they got the guy from? + +772 +00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:36,136 +I understood that he was in the External +Relations Department for the WTO. + +773 +00:50:36,213 --> 00:50:39,080 +- That's what they thought, too. +- That's what they thought, as well. + +774 +00:50:39,783 --> 00:50:40,943 +- But... +- But... + +775 +00:50:41,018 --> 00:50:44,010 +- ...as it happens, he wasn't. +- Yeah. + +776 +00:50:44,088 --> 00:50:47,057 +- In fact-- +- Just take one more close look. + +777 +00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:50,854 +Wait, can we--is this reverse? + +778 +00:50:54,398 --> 00:50:55,888 +No! + +779 +00:50:59,269 --> 00:51:01,533 +I wasn't gonna mention the likeness. + +780 +00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,565 +You were being very polite, +weren't you? Yeah. + +781 +00:51:06,577 --> 00:51:08,238 +- Yeah. +- You did it as a spoof? + +782 +00:51:08,379 --> 00:51:10,108 +- Yeah. +- Yeah. Basically... + +783 +00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:14,644 +That's good. We weren't sure +how you would react. + +784 +00:51:14,718 --> 00:51:18,313 +We were really hoping you wouldn't be +too offended. We were like, "Oh, no!" + +785 +00:51:18,389 --> 00:51:20,721 +Hell, no. That's great. +That's really-- + +786 +00:51:20,791 --> 00:51:23,624 +I was wondering, +'cause I hadn't seen that guy before, + +787 +00:51:23,694 --> 00:51:27,095 +and I did know some of the WTO +External Relations people, + +788 +00:51:27,164 --> 00:51:31,260 +and I was thinking, "My God, +they really put up a right one this time." + +789 +00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,997 +We wanted to talk +to Barry Coates as well + +790 +00:51:34,071 --> 00:51:39,008 +because he has a lot of statistics +and information about globalization + +791 +00:51:39,076 --> 00:51:42,443 +that we thought would be useful +for the lecture in Australia. + +792 +00:51:42,513 --> 00:51:45,004 +All of the WTO agreements bar one + +793 +00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:48,347 +are all about restricting +what governments can do. + +794 +00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:53,015 +And so, essentially, the whole +trading system is built on the premise + +795 +00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:58,255 +that the companies trading internationally, +investing internationally, + +796 +00:51:58,328 --> 00:52:03,322 +are going to be preyed upon +by nasty governments. + +797 +00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,732 +And, really, what we have + +798 +00:52:05,803 --> 00:52:08,738 +is an international system +that is entirely the reverse. + +799 +00:52:08,806 --> 00:52:11,001 +What's got squeezed out of the system + +800 +00:52:11,074 --> 00:52:14,066 +is democracy, +is development, is environment, + +801 +00:52:14,144 --> 00:52:17,136 +is the kind of human values + +802 +00:52:17,214 --> 00:52:20,650 +which really ought to be the center +of what we're trying to do. + +803 +00:52:20,717 --> 00:52:24,209 +We don't live to trade, you know. + +804 +00:52:24,288 --> 00:52:27,121 +We live to have decent lives. + +805 +00:52:27,191 --> 00:52:29,682 +And that ought to be the goal +of our trade policy, + +806 +00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,788 +not maximizing trade +or getting rid of any impediments to it. + +807 +00:53:00,224 --> 00:53:02,351 +Looks good. +I've got that. + +808 +00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,721 +Need to get the video... + +809 +00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,929 +...and we'll be off. + +810 +00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:10,432 +Let's see... + +811 +00:53:13,237 --> 00:53:16,070 +One of the big reasons +why I'm up here + +812 +00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:20,098 +is that we have the Australia gig +for the Yes Men. + +813 +00:53:20,177 --> 00:53:24,170 +I did an animation about the recycling +of post-consumer waste + +814 +00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:27,979 +into hamburgers and fast food. + +815 +00:53:28,051 --> 00:53:30,281 +So...here we go. + +816 +00:53:30,921 --> 00:53:34,516 +The answer to the world's +sustainable food future is in recycling. + +817 +00:53:35,826 --> 00:53:38,420 +Since over half our nutrients +taken in are eliminated, + +818 +00:53:38,495 --> 00:53:39,894 +valuable resources are at risk. + +819 +00:53:39,963 --> 00:53:43,364 +By using post-consumer waste, +reBurger allows essential nutrients + +820 +00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:46,732 +to be offered to developing countries +for greatly reduced cost. + +821 +00:53:48,038 --> 00:53:49,699 +Okay... + +822 +00:53:54,411 --> 00:53:56,072 +It gets better. + +823 +00:53:57,314 --> 00:53:58,576 +- Wait. +- What was that? + +824 +00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:01,140 +- Was that in outer space? +- What the hell was that? + +825 +00:54:01,785 --> 00:54:04,720 +I think it does the job. +I think it does the job. + +826 +00:54:07,624 --> 00:54:11,617 +We're here in New York +because Herb Alpert, + +827 +00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:14,687 +of Herb Alpert +and the Tijuana Brass, + +828 +00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:16,926 +gave us this award. + +829 +00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,664 +A bunch of money to do +the kind of stuff that we do. + +830 +00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:24,229 +So we had to come here +and have dinner with him + +831 +00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:26,970 +and get the money +and thank everybody. + +832 +00:54:27,044 --> 00:54:29,877 +It was very nice +and very surprising. + +833 +00:54:29,947 --> 00:54:33,280 +But we're very pleased. +I think we can say we're very pleased. + +834 +00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:35,845 +Yeah, it was a big chunk of money. + +835 +00:54:35,919 --> 00:54:39,753 +It's gonna bankroll a lot +of future activities like going to Australia. + +836 +00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,949 +Yeah, so we got +this chunk of money but, + +837 +00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:45,358 +of course, now we're +also using this opportunity + +838 +00:54:45,429 --> 00:54:48,091 +and this hotel room here in New York +to meet up with Matt + +839 +00:54:48,165 --> 00:54:51,157 +who's been working on the PowerPoint +presentation for Australia, + +840 +00:54:51,234 --> 00:54:52,826 +and to meet up with Patrick + +841 +00:54:52,903 --> 00:54:56,498 +who's been working on animations +for Australia as well. + +842 +00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:00,703 +Fortunately we were lucky, too, +because Snafu was in town. + +843 +00:55:00,777 --> 00:55:03,507 +He's sort of a European Yes Man. + +844 +00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:05,673 +He's been circulating +in the European scene + +845 +00:55:05,749 --> 00:55:08,240 +doing Yes Men-type activities. + +846 +00:55:08,318 --> 00:55:11,253 +But it's a good thing +he's here in the States + +847 +00:55:11,321 --> 00:55:13,653 +so he could go +to Plattsburgh with us. + +848 +00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:16,215 +Yes, trade liberalization +is a religious undertaking. + +849 +00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:18,853 +A project of faith, a crusade of sorts, +and it has been + +850 +00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:22,296 +ever since its founders declared +that financial success comes from God + +851 +00:55:22,366 --> 00:55:25,358 +and that wealth +is a sign of divine favor. + +852 +00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:29,667 +Now, why is starvation a problem? +First, the facts. + +853 +00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,834 +As we all know, investment +and exports have been on the rise... + +854 +00:55:35,646 --> 00:55:37,307 +There's some bad news. + +855 +00:55:37,381 --> 00:55:40,646 +There's some really bad news +that came down in the last two days. + +856 +00:55:41,652 --> 00:55:43,984 +The conference in Australia-- + +857 +00:55:44,054 --> 00:55:46,716 +the people from the conference +in Australia wrote an e-mail + +858 +00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:51,454 +saying that the conference has been +canceled because of low enrollment. + +859 +00:55:51,528 --> 00:55:54,190 +In some ways +it's really kind of, I guess, + +860 +00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:56,596 +a nice thing +that there was underenrollment + +861 +00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:58,828 +because it was really +a hideous conference + +862 +00:55:58,902 --> 00:56:00,961 +and it seemed like a really dire thing + +863 +00:56:01,038 --> 00:56:03,871 +that people would actually +want to go to that thing. + +864 +00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,272 +And so, it's really +encouraging for humanity + +865 +00:56:06,343 --> 00:56:08,743 +that the conference +actually has been canceled. + +866 +00:56:08,812 --> 00:56:12,839 +But at the same time, it's really +made things difficult for us. + +867 +00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:14,907 +So I wrote back to them +as Hildegard West + +868 +00:56:14,985 --> 00:56:18,648 +and I asked them if they +would please set up another venue + +869 +00:56:18,722 --> 00:56:22,317 +because Kinnithrung Sprat +is already en route to Australia. + +870 +00:56:22,392 --> 00:56:25,793 +So right now I'm waiting to see +if they come back to us + +871 +00:56:25,862 --> 00:56:29,696 +with a suggestion that they'll actually +have a public presentation, + +872 +00:56:29,766 --> 00:56:32,496 +but since the conference +has been canceled, + +873 +00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:38,098 +now the event in Plattsburgh might be +the only venue we have for this lecture. + +874 +00:56:38,175 --> 00:56:41,611 +So it's really important now that we get +the lecture done and sort of together. + +875 +00:56:41,678 --> 00:56:48,413 +So it's no longer a dress rehearsal. +It's actually, like, the final production. + +876 +00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:51,317 +It's about time. + +877 +00:56:51,388 --> 00:56:53,481 +I was so worried about your shoes. + +878 +00:56:53,557 --> 00:56:56,355 +This guy brought +real shoes for you. Look. + +879 +00:56:56,426 --> 00:56:58,257 +Do we have the hamburgers yet? + +880 +00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,121 +- We have to pick them up. +- You mentioned-- + +881 +00:57:01,198 --> 00:57:03,530 +They're ordered. +Richard ordered them already. + +882 +00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,431 +- That's fantastic. +- We pick them up? + +883 +00:57:05,502 --> 00:57:08,562 +Basically, there's this guy +named Richard Robbins who I met + +884 +00:57:08,638 --> 00:57:10,629 +at a conference +about a month ago, + +885 +00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:15,508 +and he has written +several books on globalization. + +886 +00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,843 +He was interested +in having the WTO + +887 +00:57:18,915 --> 00:57:21,315 +come speak +at the Economics Department. + +888 +00:57:21,384 --> 00:57:24,785 +Only he really knows that this +isn't really the WTO. + +889 +00:57:24,855 --> 00:57:27,119 +Everybody else will think +that it's the WTO. + +890 +00:57:27,741 --> 00:57:30,437 +But another good thing is +that it will be a hungry audience, + +891 +00:57:30,511 --> 00:57:33,503 +so there's a good chance +they are going to eat those hamburgers, + +892 +00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,741 +which we weren't sure +was actually gonna happen + +893 +00:57:35,816 --> 00:57:38,148 +with the accountants in Australia. + +894 +00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,513 +I think, for look, +I should probably carry these in. + +895 +00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,581 +Okay. Can you do it? + +896 +00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:49,493 +I'm thinking that you probably shouldn't +be associated with the hamburgers. + +897 +00:57:49,563 --> 00:57:50,825 +Okay. + +898 +00:57:50,898 --> 00:57:53,298 +I'd like to thank everybody for coming. + +899 +00:57:53,367 --> 00:57:59,033 +You have many education choices, +and we're all grateful at the WTO + +900 +00:57:59,106 --> 00:58:02,075 +that you have chosen +to listen to us for an hour + +901 +00:58:02,142 --> 00:58:05,475 +and to our messages about things +that will impact everyone. + +902 +00:58:05,546 --> 00:58:07,878 +I'd like to say that, +by joining us here, + +903 +00:58:07,948 --> 00:58:11,008 +you're essentially embarking +with us on a mission. + +904 +00:58:12,052 --> 00:58:14,646 +I'd like to start right at the beginning. + +905 +00:58:14,722 --> 00:58:16,383 +As I was saying, + +906 +00:58:16,457 --> 00:58:20,518 +trade liberalization is a project of faith; +it's a crusade. + +907 +00:58:20,594 --> 00:58:22,653 +And in any crusade, +there are problems. + +908 +00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,392 +There are invading armies, +there are big blockades. + +909 +00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,301 +And one of the problems +that we run into in this crusade + +910 +00:58:30,370 --> 00:58:32,065 +is starvation in the Third World. + +911 +00:58:32,139 --> 00:58:35,472 +You may recognize that symbol +from those green bins you see... + +912 +00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:37,737 +where cans, bottles, blah, blah. + +913 +00:58:37,811 --> 00:58:41,645 +The kind of recycling I'm talking about +that we have developed at the WTO + +914 +00:58:41,715 --> 00:58:46,778 +is...not--not really +this irrelevant kind of recycling + +915 +00:58:46,854 --> 00:58:50,017 +where the target-- +individual consumers like you and me + +916 +00:58:50,090 --> 00:58:55,585 +or of non-edible industrial products-- +is such a tiny part of the problem. + +917 +00:58:55,662 --> 00:59:00,861 +Rather, we're talking about really +recycling what counts where it counts. + +918 +00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:03,095 +To begin to understand +the theory behind this, + +919 +00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:06,867 +you must first realize that the human body +is not really very efficient. + +920 +00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:11,434 +When ingesting heavy foods, +only about 20% of the nutrients + +921 +00:59:11,512 --> 00:59:14,276 +are absorbed +by the alimentary passageway + +922 +00:59:14,348 --> 00:59:18,341 +while the other 80% finds itself +expelled in post-consumer byproducts. + +923 +00:59:18,418 --> 00:59:19,908 +Already 20 years ago, + +924 +00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:23,821 +NASA scientists began +to tap into this nutritional gold mine + +925 +00:59:23,891 --> 00:59:27,383 +by developing filters that could +transform their astronauts' waste + +926 +00:59:27,461 --> 00:59:31,591 +into healthy, hygienic, +and even delicious food once again. + +927 +00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:33,326 +With the use of this technology, + +928 +00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,393 +a single hamburger, for example, +can be eaten more than ten times, + +929 +00:59:37,471 --> 00:59:42,374 +providing a cumulative total +of three times the nutritional value + +930 +00:59:42,442 --> 00:59:44,603 +of the original fresh hamburger. + +931 +00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:48,478 +Now, again, a certain amount +of cultural openness is required + +932 +00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:51,382 +as we investigate solutions. + +933 +00:59:51,451 --> 00:59:53,476 +And I'd love to take any questions. + +934 +00:59:53,554 --> 00:59:54,612 +Yes, you've been-- + +935 +00:59:54,688 --> 00:59:56,519 +Coming from a Third World country, + +936 +00:59:56,590 --> 01:00:00,424 +I found most of what you said +pretty offensive. + +937 +01:00:00,494 --> 01:00:05,329 +It's as if everyone is equal, +but some are more equal than others. + +938 +01:00:05,399 --> 01:00:07,390 +And...who is to say + +939 +01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,664 +whether people in the Third World +want a burger? + +940 +01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,900 +You know, I, in my heart, +sometimes find it to agree + +941 +01:00:13,974 --> 01:00:17,637 +that cultures deserve +an equal consideration + +942 +01:00:17,711 --> 01:00:19,645 +perhaps to develop on their own terms, + +943 +01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:21,044 +but we're different. + +944 +01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,776 +We're culturally different. +We're rich, they're poor. + +945 +01:00:23,851 --> 01:00:26,319 +This is the most humane solution +we can come up with + +946 +01:00:26,386 --> 01:00:28,081 +that stays within the market logic. + +947 +01:00:28,155 --> 01:00:31,818 +If it's all right, I could answer +a portion of that question, as well. + +948 +01:00:31,892 --> 01:00:35,919 +And this answers the question +about desire for the product + +949 +01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:39,329 +because the biggest growth areas +are the developing world. + +950 +01:00:39,399 --> 01:00:43,392 +And so, in fact, +people do want the product. + +951 +01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:48,635 +We do have a kind of video presentation +about this that I came prepared to show. + +952 +01:00:48,709 --> 01:00:53,339 +It's not--the program isn't actually +completely ready yet. + +953 +01:00:55,549 --> 01:01:00,953 +So, as you can see here, +there's a consumer in the First World + +954 +01:01:01,021 --> 01:01:04,684 +entering McDonald's +and consuming a hamburger. + +955 +01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:11,023 +And, afterward, this is the process +we're all familiar with. + +956 +01:01:11,098 --> 01:01:13,225 +I don't need +to explain it to anyone. + +957 +01:01:15,269 --> 01:01:17,430 +But... + +958 +01:01:17,504 --> 01:01:20,029 +You see, it's rendered out +in this style + +959 +01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:24,476 +because studies have shown +that consumers are most responsive + +960 +01:01:24,544 --> 01:01:28,640 +to 3-D animation right now, +particularly in developing cultures. + +961 +01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:32,779 +So, as you can see, +it goes through a piping system, + +962 +01:01:32,853 --> 01:01:34,514 +and this isn't unusual. + +963 +01:01:34,588 --> 01:01:38,080 +We do this for oil. +We could do this for food, as well. + +964 +01:01:38,158 --> 01:01:42,288 +And, as you can see, +it goes back up through the plumbing... + +965 +01:01:42,362 --> 01:01:45,354 +and emerges in a McDonald's. + +966 +01:01:45,432 --> 01:01:49,095 +Now, the part of this video that isn't +completed yet is the filtering process. + +967 +01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:53,663 +There will be +a very well-rendered filtering... + +968 +01:02:04,518 --> 01:02:08,079 +As you can see--this might answer +somebody's question from before, + +969 +01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,715 +but at the McDonald's +in a developing country + +970 +01:02:10,791 --> 01:02:12,782 +and, in fact, +in this country as well, + +971 +01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:15,350 +you would be able to choose-- +the number one, number two, + +972 +01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,294 +number three, +number four, number five + +973 +01:02:17,364 --> 01:02:19,992 +would no longer refer +to combinations of food, + +974 +01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:23,628 +but rather just the number of times +the product had been recycled. + +975 +01:02:25,472 --> 01:02:29,067 +We're lucky to be able to partner with +the World Trade Organization which, + +976 +01:02:29,142 --> 01:02:31,042 +you know, has slightly different goals. + +977 +01:02:31,111 --> 01:02:34,103 +Of course, McDonald's goals +are to profit and grow, + +978 +01:02:34,181 --> 01:02:35,842 +and we hope that we can provide + +979 +01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:38,407 +a nutritious and tasty product +in the process. + +980 +01:02:38,485 --> 01:02:42,649 +Our goals are to help McDonald's profit +and grow, and all other corporations. + +981 +01:02:42,723 --> 01:02:45,556 +I think you guys-- +like, the WTO-- + +982 +01:02:45,625 --> 01:02:49,686 +is kind of lacking kind of, like, +a human element, you know? + +983 +01:02:49,763 --> 01:02:55,633 +Like...if you saw-- +have you ever seen starving people? + +984 +01:02:55,702 --> 01:02:57,533 +In pictures. Yes. + +985 +01:02:58,405 --> 01:03:01,465 +So, tell me, if you saw +somebody starving to death, + +986 +01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,702 +you would probably think a lot-- + +987 +01:03:03,777 --> 01:03:08,976 +like, that would kind of hit you +in a sensitive place to say, + +988 +01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:13,884 +"Oh, maybe markets and money +and this and that don't really mean as much, + +989 +01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:16,946 +and, actually, feeding people +means a little bit more." + +990 +01:03:17,024 --> 01:03:19,959 +Well, it is true that there's +a personal side of it that-- + +991 +01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,188 +I have to say, in the WTO + +992 +01:03:22,262 --> 01:03:25,925 +there are questions that we have +about this as human beings, + +993 +01:03:25,999 --> 01:03:28,797 +but we're not as subject-- + +994 +01:03:28,869 --> 01:03:30,860 +we have a kind +of firmer grasp on theory. + +995 +01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:33,770 +We are able, fortunately, + +996 +01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,674 +to simply direct world trade +in a much more theoretical way... + +997 +01:03:37,744 --> 01:03:41,407 +in collaboration with our colleagues +at the largest corporations. + +998 +01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:47,317 +So...you know. Yes, probably, +if I went to these countries, + +999 +01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:53,121 +I'd feel...l'd think about things +a little differently, perhaps. + +1000 +01:03:53,193 --> 01:03:56,685 +But, at the same time, I don't think +I would forget all my schooling. + +1001 +01:03:56,763 --> 01:03:59,596 +I don't think I would forget +all these theories and so on. + +1002 +01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:02,999 +So, perhaps one day I'll do that. + +1003 +01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:05,368 +This is a money-maker, correct? + +1004 +01:04:05,439 --> 01:04:09,307 +Yes. Well, it's a money-maker, +starvation-solver, sure. + +1005 +01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:12,812 +How much did McDonald's pay you to +come here and speak this garbage to us? + +1006 +01:04:12,879 --> 01:04:15,973 +Did I see a mouse with an ear +growing out of its back? + +1007 +01:04:16,049 --> 01:04:19,382 +How are you going to get around +the cultural and legal implications + +1008 +01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,354 +of cannibalism and basically +asking us to recycle shit? + +1009 +01:04:51,151 --> 01:04:55,178 +The reality is that we already +treat people in the Third World + +1010 +01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,723 +far worse than we treat +our domestic animals. + +1011 +01:04:57,791 --> 01:05:02,125 +That's--that's not saying it's right. +It's just saying that's the reality. + +1012 +01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,902 +Well, after thinking about it +for a little while, + +1013 +01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,306 +it seems the Plattsburgh lecture +just went great, + +1014 +01:05:16,376 --> 01:05:20,210 +and it went exactly the way we +originally expected these lectures to work, + +1015 +01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,545 +which is that, at a certain point, +it was like a light bulb's going off + +1016 +01:05:23,617 --> 01:05:26,017 +in the heads of the different people +in the audience, + +1017 +01:05:26,086 --> 01:05:29,681 +and they were realizing that it +was just too crazy to be real, + +1018 +01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:31,917 +and yet it was +sort of based in reality. + +1019 +01:05:31,992 --> 01:05:35,428 +So, you know, +they started throwing globes at us, + +1020 +01:05:35,495 --> 01:05:37,759 +they got angry, +they got frustrated. + +1021 +01:05:37,831 --> 01:05:40,095 +It worked exactly +like we thought it would. + +1022 +01:05:43,837 --> 01:05:45,270 +They don't ask if you believe in it. + +1023 +01:05:45,338 --> 01:05:48,432 +You don't get to vote +on World Trade Organization treaties. + +1024 +01:05:48,508 --> 01:05:51,102 +They don't let you vote on it. +They don't give you a say. + +1025 +01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:54,079 +They let you listen +to the one-sided propaganda. + +1026 +01:05:54,147 --> 01:05:57,639 +Name me a single columnist in America +who doesn't stand up and cheer + +1027 +01:05:57,717 --> 01:05:59,878 +under the banner +of so-called free trade. + +1028 +01:05:59,953 --> 01:06:01,511 +There's no public discussion, + +1029 +01:06:01,588 --> 01:06:05,422 +there's no dissent +in any of the political parties. + +1030 +01:06:05,492 --> 01:06:08,655 +There's no debate, +there's no discussion, there's no vote. + +1031 +01:06:08,728 --> 01:06:13,665 +In fact, the only nation +which has called for a vote is Brazil, + +1032 +01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:18,397 +which is saying that it +will not sign any more trade treaties + +1033 +01:06:18,471 --> 01:06:20,598 +without a plebiscite of its people. + +1034 +01:06:20,674 --> 01:06:24,337 +And the world trade barons +are losing their damn minds + +1035 +01:06:24,411 --> 01:06:29,246 +trying to prevent this type of democracy +from spreading planet-wide, + +1036 +01:06:29,316 --> 01:06:32,979 +'cause once people know what this stuff +is about and get to vote on it, + +1037 +01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,783 +no one's gonna vote themselves +into poverty. + +1038 +01:06:39,826 --> 01:06:42,488 +Here we go. +"Australia country code." + +1039 +01:06:45,332 --> 01:06:47,129 +Australia, 61. +It's 61. + +1040 +01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,360 +Sixty-one. + +1041 +01:06:53,473 --> 01:06:57,466 +Hi, this is Kinnithrung Sprat +from the WTO. + +1042 +01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,206 +- Hello. how are you? +- Good, thanks. How are you? + +1043 +01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,443 +- Where are you now? +- I'm in New York at the moment. + +1044 +01:07:03,516 --> 01:07:05,677 +- In New York, are you? +- Yes. + +1045 +01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:11,156 +Kinnithrung Sprat just called the person +who's coordinating Sprat's visit. + +1046 +01:07:11,224 --> 01:07:15,160 +I'm due in Hong Kong +the week after this, + +1047 +01:07:15,228 --> 01:07:17,219 +and that date is firm, + +1048 +01:07:17,297 --> 01:07:22,030 +but my travel to Australia +is as yet not firm. Yeah. + +1049 +01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,265 +She's actually, it turns out, +been e-mailing all these people + +1050 +01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:27,670 +and basically calling journalists + +1051 +01:07:27,741 --> 01:07:29,936 +and getting people +to attend his lecture. + +1052 +01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:34,174 +She fully expects him to attend because +she had spoken to Hildegard West, + +1053 +01:07:34,247 --> 01:07:37,375 +Sprat's assistant, +and Hildegard West had told her + +1054 +01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:40,510 +that everything was on +and Sprat was definitely going. + +1055 +01:07:40,587 --> 01:07:43,078 +So now we've just decided +we really have to go + +1056 +01:07:43,156 --> 01:07:46,592 +to honor this arrangement +with Australia. + +1057 +01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,652 +So it's back on now +after we totally thought it was off. + +1058 +01:07:49,729 --> 01:07:53,790 +And instead of giving this lecture that +we've been planning for, like, nine months, + +1059 +01:07:53,867 --> 01:07:57,803 +we're gonna, like, you know, +just disband the WTO. + +1060 +01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,503 +Shouldn't we get you a pair of shoes +that actually are reasonable? + +1061 +01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:06,909 +They just don't look like dress shoes. +They look like wrestling shoes. + +1062 +01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,414 +There are no shoes here +for you. Never mind. + +1063 +01:08:09,482 --> 01:08:11,450 +No. Shoes are out. + +1064 +01:08:11,518 --> 01:08:12,507 +A tie. + +1065 +01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:14,915 +Around, then... + +1066 +01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:18,580 +Wait--did you try this? + +1067 +01:08:20,193 --> 01:08:21,455 +Yeah. + +1068 +01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:27,627 +I did a set of these with inkjet, +and they just don't look as real. + +1069 +01:08:27,701 --> 01:08:29,635 +Something about them. +They look... + +1070 +01:08:29,703 --> 01:08:31,637 +- These look perfect. +- ...kind of handmade. + +1071 +01:08:32,305 --> 01:08:34,136 +I printed off some letterhead for you. + +1072 +01:08:34,207 --> 01:08:35,868 +- Nice. +- You guys already saw that. + +1073 +01:08:35,942 --> 01:08:38,308 +- And I just kept it real simple... +- It's perfect. + +1074 +01:08:38,378 --> 01:08:40,778 +...so that it would show up well +on the fax. + +1075 +01:08:41,748 --> 01:08:44,046 +That is the most ridiculous photo. + +1076 +01:08:44,117 --> 01:08:48,349 +There's something really weird +about this maniacal public relations guy. + +1077 +01:08:48,421 --> 01:08:51,322 +- A little magnetic strip on the back. +- A logo of the WTO. + +1078 +01:08:51,391 --> 01:08:52,585 +Really beautiful. + +1079 +01:08:54,327 --> 01:08:57,490 +You know what I did? +I went to Google... + +1080 +01:08:57,564 --> 01:09:02,399 +and I went to Google image search +and I typed in, "I.D. card." + +1081 +01:09:02,469 --> 01:09:05,961 +And you wouldn't believe +the number of pictures of I.D. cards + +1082 +01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,870 +that show up on the Web. + +1083 +01:09:07,941 --> 01:09:10,808 +And I just went through +and took a little bit from each one. + +1084 +01:09:10,877 --> 01:09:14,040 +I said, "All right, this one's got +a little bar code at the bottom, + +1085 +01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:16,344 +and this one uses +the logo over here." + +1086 +01:09:16,416 --> 01:09:18,407 +That is so nice. + +1087 +01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:32,190 +- I know. +- Wow. Airplane. + +1088 +01:09:34,534 --> 01:09:36,229 +Where's the rental car area? + +1089 +01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,313 +No, I don't know. +I'm just really nervous + +1090 +01:09:58,391 --> 01:10:01,883 +'cause this feels different from all +the other things that we've done. + +1091 +01:10:01,961 --> 01:10:08,696 +It's not like the same kind of play, +fun, crazy, weird, impossible stuff. + +1092 +01:10:08,768 --> 01:10:10,258 +This is sincere, you know. + +1093 +01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,203 +It's about replacing the WTO +with something better. + +1094 +01:10:13,273 --> 01:10:16,333 +- Do you think that satire is more fun? +- Yeah, definitely. + +1095 +01:10:16,409 --> 01:10:19,640 +I got this feeling that it's-- +for some reason-- + +1096 +01:10:19,712 --> 01:10:22,203 +maybe it's less fun to be sincere. + +1097 +01:10:22,282 --> 01:10:24,273 +But it is less fun, isn't it? + +1098 +01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,181 +In a way, yeah. + +1099 +01:10:26,252 --> 01:10:31,849 +Maybe it's more fun +to be satirical than serious. + +1100 +01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:33,085 +Yeah. + +1101 +01:10:37,697 --> 01:10:39,790 +It's about 9:00 in the morning, + +1102 +01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,426 +and this is the big day +for Kinnithrung Sprat + +1103 +01:10:42,502 --> 01:10:44,402 +to go talk to CPA Australia + +1104 +01:10:44,471 --> 01:10:46,632 +and close down the WTO. + +1105 +01:10:46,706 --> 01:10:51,905 +It's kind of an exciting day for us +'cause we finally get to shut it down. + +1106 +01:11:06,226 --> 01:11:10,720 +I'm writing the local phone number +for this cell phone on the business cards. + +1107 +01:11:10,797 --> 01:11:13,732 +So if we give these to journalists +or anybody else + +1108 +01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,533 +who wants to contact Mr. Sprat--they'll be +able to do it in the next couple days. + +1109 +01:11:20,974 --> 01:11:23,135 +We have to leave +in ten minutes, though. + +1110 +01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:24,642 +I know. + +1111 +01:11:24,711 --> 01:11:27,544 +I'm just gonna do +as little as possible. + +1112 +01:11:30,683 --> 01:11:34,175 +Okay, let's just go by there. +We have some time yet. + +1113 +01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:36,586 +Let's just keep walking. +Just walk straight. + +1114 +01:11:36,723 --> 01:11:40,716 +Don't look. +Don't turn left. Don't... + +1115 +01:11:40,793 --> 01:11:43,819 +Hey, no. Don't. +Don't do that. + +1116 +01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:46,825 +Answer it. + +1117 +01:11:47,767 --> 01:11:49,598 +Hello, Michael Bonanno here. + +1118 +01:11:52,505 --> 01:11:54,063 +Hi, Jane. How are you? + +1119 +01:11:55,675 --> 01:11:59,111 +All right, then. I guess +we'll see you in just a few minutes. + +1120 +01:11:59,178 --> 01:12:01,510 +And we just come up +to level three, then? + +1121 +01:12:01,581 --> 01:12:04,846 +Great. Thank you very much. +All right. Bye-bye. + +1122 +01:12:04,918 --> 01:12:06,010 +Run! + +1123 +01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:12,687 +Oh, wait. Shit! +This is the building! + +1124 +01:12:13,192 --> 01:12:14,887 +- Thank you for coming. +- Thank you for having us. + +1125 +01:12:14,961 --> 01:12:18,692 +Sorry for the confusion +and problems and everything else. + +1126 +01:12:18,765 --> 01:12:20,926 +It's to be expected +these days, I think. + +1127 +01:12:21,901 --> 01:12:26,167 +No. Thanks for going out of your way +to arrange this. This is really terrific. + +1128 +01:12:31,811 --> 01:12:34,336 +Thank you all for coming. +I'd like to... + +1129 +01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:38,983 +I'd like to thank the organizers +for going out of their way + +1130 +01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:43,853 +to create this panel, +this luncheon, + +1131 +01:12:43,923 --> 01:12:48,019 +in the face of some odds--the conference +having been canceled, of course. + +1132 +01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:50,756 +And I'd especially like to begin + +1133 +01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,664 +by apologizing for a rather sudden +change in the program, + +1134 +01:12:54,734 --> 01:13:01,003 +consequent upon a rather dramatic +development in Geneva yesterday. + +1135 +01:13:01,074 --> 01:13:04,908 +I originally intended to transmit today +an upbeat report + +1136 +01:13:04,978 --> 01:13:09,915 +on some new technologies that affect +agribusiness in a global sense. + +1137 +01:13:09,983 --> 01:13:14,920 +Instead, I find myself the messenger +of some rather disturbing news. + +1138 +01:13:14,988 --> 01:13:17,718 +The WTO will be issuing +a public statement + +1139 +01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:19,985 +in detail by the end of the week. + +1140 +01:13:20,059 --> 01:13:22,050 +But the die has been cast. + +1141 +01:13:22,128 --> 01:13:24,289 +As of September 2002, + +1142 +01:13:24,364 --> 01:13:26,958 +having seen the effects of policies + +1143 +01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:30,560 +whose only intent was to bring +greater prosperity and peace, + +1144 +01:13:30,637 --> 01:13:35,438 +the World Trade Organization, +in its present form, will cease to exist. + +1145 +01:13:36,376 --> 01:13:37,866 +Over the next two years, + +1146 +01:13:37,944 --> 01:13:43,007 +we at the WTO will endeavor to re-found +our organization along different lines, + +1147 +01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:47,143 +based in a different understanding +of the purposes of world trade. + +1148 +01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,178 +The new organization will have +as its foundation and basis + +1149 +01:13:51,257 --> 01:13:55,091 +the United Nations' +Universal Declaration of Human Rights, + +1150 +01:13:55,161 --> 01:13:59,564 +upon which we feel +we can make a good foundation + +1151 +01:13:59,632 --> 01:14:02,294 +to ensuring that the organization +will have human + +1152 +01:14:02,368 --> 01:14:05,303 +rather than business interests +as its bottom line. + +1153 +01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,202 +My reaction was one of total surprise. + +1154 +01:14:07,273 --> 01:14:09,104 +We were expecting +a speech more based + +1155 +01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:13,111 +on what the World Trade Organization +does in its relation to Australian trade. + +1156 +01:14:13,179 --> 01:14:16,171 +It sort of blew me out of the water +when the announcement was made + +1157 +01:14:16,249 --> 01:14:19,980 +that the World Trade Organization +is significantly reinventing itself + +1158 +01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:25,787 +to focus on issues relating to people +as opposed to economics-- + +1159 +01:14:25,858 --> 01:14:28,691 +something that hopefully could be +of significant benefit + +1160 +01:14:28,761 --> 01:14:33,095 +to the poor and needy throughout +the world in all developing countries. + +1161 +01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:37,330 +The U.N. estimates that poor countries-- +the poorest countries in the world-- + +1162 +01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:43,069 +lose approximately $2 billion a day +because of unjust trade rules, + +1163 +01:14:43,142 --> 01:14:46,407 +many of them instituted +by our own organization. + +1164 +01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,743 +And this is 14 times the amount + +1165 +01:14:48,815 --> 01:14:51,545 +that they receive in aid +from developed countries. + +1166 +01:14:52,552 --> 01:14:57,216 +I thought the speech itself was compelling +in terms of its information. + +1167 +01:14:57,290 --> 01:15:02,887 +I was astounded to find that they're +actually gonna dismantle the WTO. + +1168 +01:15:02,962 --> 01:15:07,695 +I was also amazed to see that there was +a mission that perhaps had failed. + +1169 +01:15:07,767 --> 01:15:11,100 +It's gonna have a huge effect +on international business + +1170 +01:15:11,170 --> 01:15:14,333 +and particularly for us +as an organization, I feel. + +1171 +01:15:14,407 --> 01:15:18,138 +The hardest thing, I find, +will be the balance that, let's say, + +1172 +01:15:18,211 --> 01:15:20,736 +the U.S., E.U., and Japan-- + +1173 +01:15:20,813 --> 01:15:24,544 +in terms of being major components +of the world economy-- + +1174 +01:15:24,617 --> 01:15:28,451 +the effect--will they really change +in terms of this new organization, + +1175 +01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,183 +and will there actually +be genuine change + +1176 +01:15:31,257 --> 01:15:34,590 +and perhaps a benefit +to the world's poorest countries? + +1177 +01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,754 +I must admit I'm a cynic +with regards to that occurring. + +1178 +01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,095 +Liberalization-- +the process of liberalization + +1179 +01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,226 +often enables +the knowledge of the poor + +1180 +01:15:43,302 --> 01:15:47,170 +to be converted into the property +of global corporations. + +1181 +01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,607 +Specific statistics are rather shocking. + +1182 +01:15:50,676 --> 01:15:59,277 +Out of 26,000 patents +applied for in Africa in 2000 and 2001, + +1183 +01:15:59,352 --> 01:16:03,186 +only 31 were from residents of Africa. + +1184 +01:16:03,256 --> 01:16:06,089 +The rest were from residents +of first world countries. + +1185 +01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,220 +31 out of 26,000 patent applications. + +1186 +01:16:10,296 --> 01:16:11,957 +It wasn't what I was expecting. + +1187 +01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,022 +I was expecting something +on agribusiness + +1188 +01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,591 +and what +the World Trade Organization does. + +1189 +01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:20,264 +But I'd have to say +I believe it's fairly positive + +1190 +01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:24,070 +because I think that, +as the gentleman said, + +1191 +01:16:24,143 --> 01:16:27,510 +the strong are getting stronger, +and the weak are getting weaker. + +1192 +01:16:27,580 --> 01:16:29,411 +And you can't let that keep on going. + +1193 +01:16:29,482 --> 01:16:31,313 +Even we notice it here in Australia + +1194 +01:16:31,384 --> 01:16:34,979 +with some of the trade arrangements +that are made. + +1195 +01:16:35,054 --> 01:16:37,318 +If you're powerful, +you can get whatever you like, + +1196 +01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:39,221 +and if you're not, you can't. + +1197 +01:16:39,292 --> 01:16:42,784 +The world, with the population we've got, +can't keep going that way. + +1198 +01:16:42,862 --> 01:16:44,454 +So I think it was fairly positive, + +1199 +01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,192 +and I think it's a very brave decision +by an organization + +1200 +01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,758 +to admit that they've been going down +the wrong track and dissolve themselves + +1201 +01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:54,637 +and start to look for something different. +And I think it's fantastic. + +1202 +01:16:54,707 --> 01:16:57,039 +Disparity is growing +between rich and poor. + +1203 +01:16:57,109 --> 01:16:59,600 +The richest fifth have 80% +of the world's income, + +1204 +01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,011 +and the poorest fifth have 1%. + +1205 +01:17:02,081 --> 01:17:04,140 +This gap--we all know this figure, + +1206 +01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:09,814 +but we don't always remember that +this gap has actually doubled since 1960. + +1207 +01:17:09,889 --> 01:17:13,222 +More and more thinkers +are therefore noting + +1208 +01:17:13,292 --> 01:17:16,784 +that there is no evidence +that liberalization favors growth + +1209 +01:17:16,863 --> 01:17:18,592 +or benefits the poor. + +1210 +01:17:18,664 --> 01:17:21,326 +I think we're all generally aware +of increases in poverty + +1211 +01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,494 +and low living standards and issues +faced by developing countries. + +1212 +01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:28,734 +And what Mr. Sprat had to say today +really is a terrific sign of hope + +1213 +01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:31,834 +for what I think we all aspire to, + +1214 +01:17:31,911 --> 01:17:35,847 +and that's a global economy +that benefits all people. + +1215 +01:17:44,056 --> 01:17:47,958 +Now, after protected, protracted, +and detailed review + +1216 +01:17:48,027 --> 01:17:51,793 +of current trade policy, +the World Trade Organization has decided + +1217 +01:17:51,864 --> 01:17:54,856 +to affect a cessation of all operations + +1218 +01:17:54,934 --> 01:17:57,425 +to be accomplished +over the next four months + +1219 +01:17:57,503 --> 01:18:00,939 +culminating by the end of September... + +1220 +01:18:01,007 --> 01:18:03,840 +Well, I think that the Yes Men + +1221 +01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:05,639 +have kind of played out their course + +1222 +01:18:05,711 --> 01:18:08,874 +in relation to the World Trade +Organization for the moment. + +1223 +01:18:08,948 --> 01:18:12,145 +You never know when we +might get another invitation. + +1224 +01:18:12,218 --> 01:18:17,520 +We were lucky to be able to provide a sort +of sense of closure by ending the WTO. + +1225 +01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,582 +We also hope that other people +will just start doing the same things + +1226 +01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:22,491 +in all kinds of different contexts-- + +1227 +01:18:22,561 --> 01:18:28,022 +impersonating whoever holds power +that needs to be criticized. + +1228 +01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,160 +So if the opportunity arises, +we're just gonna keep doing it. + +1229 +01:18:31,237 --> 01:18:34,638 +We're gonna go and... +be the Yes Men again, + +1230 +01:18:34,707 --> 01:18:37,642 +or I should say, +be the WTO again in another event. + +1231 +01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,543 +The future's bright for the Yes Men. + +1232 +01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,549 +The future of the world +is a different story. + +1233 +01:19:19,185 --> 01:19:22,586 +No, this isn't the way +he usually dresses. + +1234 +01:19:22,655 --> 01:19:26,182 +He works for the World Trade +Organization--you know, the WTO. + +1235 +01:19:26,258 --> 01:19:29,421 +He works-- +see, we're at a conference, + +1236 +01:19:29,495 --> 01:19:33,261 +and he's demonstrating +a new kind of technology. + +1237 +01:19:33,332 --> 01:19:38,292 +This is--well, it's a device +to measure employee working + +1238 +01:19:38,371 --> 01:19:40,498 +in less developed countries. + +1239 +01:19:40,573 --> 01:19:44,304 +There's a thing here where... + +1240 +01:19:44,377 --> 01:19:48,279 +on this screen I can see... + +1241 +01:19:48,347 --> 01:19:51,316 +See, he watches people working there. + +1242 +01:19:51,384 --> 01:19:54,444 +And they have little devices +that give them shocks. + +1243 +01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,511 +It's just regular fabric. + +1244 +01:19:56,589 --> 01:19:59,922 +In the future, +it'll be sensitive-smart fabric. + +1245 +01:19:59,992 --> 01:20:01,584 +It's a little hot, but... + +1246 +01:20:02,862 --> 01:20:04,193 +That one looks better. +